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Old 18th January 2023, 07:32 AM   #121
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Noticed I still had this in my watch later list, it covers the fakery used at the latest robot announcements and a few other things he has promoted with "faked" product demonstrations:

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Old 18th January 2023, 06:34 PM   #122
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Was this already mentioned?

A Tesla vehicle using ‘Smart Summon’ appears to crash into a $3.5 million private jet

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According to the poster, the Tesla owner was using the “Smart Summon” feature that enables a Tesla vehicle to leave a parking space and navigate around obstacles to its owner. Using just the Tesla app on your smartphone, you can “summon” your car to you from a maximum distance of 200 feet, as long as the car is within your line of sight.
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Old 18th January 2023, 07:06 PM   #123
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
Noticed I still had this in my watch later list, it covers the fakery used at the latest robot announcements and a few other things he has promoted with "faked" product demonstrations:

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Meanwhile Boston Dynamics' Atlas robot can do parkour:

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Old 18th January 2023, 08:49 PM   #124
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Meanwhile Boston Dynamics' Atlas robot can do parkour:

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Damn. Robots are approaching that "uncanny valley" where they look just human enough to creep me out.
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Old 18th January 2023, 10:34 PM   #125
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Originally Posted by Puppycow View Post

I never saw it. Is it really legal to sell a car like this or is this just another example of Musk thumbing his nose at the law?

Specifically, is it legal for a car to be operated on public streets without a driver on-board?
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Old 18th January 2023, 11:17 PM   #126
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
I never saw it. Is it really legal to sell a car like this or is this just another example of Musk thumbing his nose at the law?

Specifically, is it legal for a car to be operated on public streets without a driver on-board?
The legality may depend on where you are. Apparently it is legal in some states at least. But the driver is responsible according to Tesla.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lianeyv...h=5de89f1518c6

It's only supposed to be used if you have a line of sight to the vehicle.
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Old 19th January 2023, 07:11 AM   #127
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With the average new car price in the U.S. at about $48k, itís hard to continue to position Teslaís as a rich manís toy. Though a fun toy it certainly is!
Just out of curiosity, what vehicles are counted in that "average new car price"? Just sedans, hatchbacks, etc. Or does that include SUVs and pickup trucks (i.e. vehicles that skew the average price upwards).

The price of a Tesla might not have been high compared to the cost of an average new vehicle, but it might have been high compared to vehicles of the same class/purpose. I e. It may be more relevant to compare the cost of a Tesla with the Honda civic, Hyundai Elantra or Toyota Prius/corolla than with a ford f150.


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Old 19th January 2023, 07:54 AM   #128
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
I never saw it. Is it really legal to sell a car like this or is this just another example of Musk thumbing his nose at the law?

Specifically, is it legal for a car to be operated on public streets without a driver on-board?
The feature is disabled on public streets.

I watched someone fetch their Tesla in a parking lot a few years ago when the feature was new. It moved so slow that if it were about to hit anything, the owner could have stopped it fast enough just by lifting a finger.

But, most other manufacturers with similar features limit them to working over a much shorter distance such as pulling out of a garage or parking space. That seems much less risky.

I get the impression that Tesla is trying to do too much with too little hardware. Most self-driving vehicles have a lot more sensors than Tesla.
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Old 19th January 2023, 08:43 AM   #129
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Just out of curiosity, what vehicles are counted in that "average new car price"?
Not 100% sure. Hereís the link:

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/average...e-sets-record/

At the time, they point out EVís were still priced well above average. That certainly has been moderated a bit by Teslaís recent price drops, but on average theyíre certainly still a bit higher nonetheless.
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Old 21st January 2023, 12:00 PM   #130
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Seems like Elon Musk is getting into hot water over the demo of FSD that they faked.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/01...eo-emails-show

Amusingly, following the link in Elon's Tweet about the demo now takes you to a page which says "I'm afraid I can't do that", which is somewhat ironic.
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Old 23rd January 2023, 05:00 AM   #131
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B View Post
With the average new car price in the U.S. at about $48k, itís hard to continue to position Teslaís as a rich manís toy. Though a fun toy it certainly is!
Well, maybe, but the average price of a Tesla is nearly $70k (least before these price cuts). They are expensive cars...the third most expensive with only two niche electric brands more expensive:

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Tata Motors, $86,154
Rivian, $73,396
Tesla Motors, $69,831
BMW, $68,389
Daimler, $66,158
Geely Auto Group, $58,648
Stellantis, $54,880
Volkswagen Group, $54,858
Ford Motor Company, $54,227
General Motors, $52,175

Elon Musk: saving the world one luxury sedan at a time.
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