Hunt for 'missing' aristocratic woman & ex-US convict

Vixen · 20th January 2023, 12:44 PM

Unusual story recently about a woman named Constance Marten, 34, who is 'missing' with a 48-year-old Brit, Mark Gordon, who was deported from the U.S.A. after serving a forty-year jail term for brutal rape offences committed when he was fourteen. It is unusual because police haven't said the pair are wanted for a crime. Police say they are concerned about the welfare of the pair's new born baby, which according to one news outlet, was born in a car, which was abandoned by a road side in Bolton, Lancs, UK, after having caught fire, and the couple's belongings burnt. They then headed to Essex (where they once lived, in Ilford) and are believed to have intended to catch a ferry to the Netherlands. Instead they took a taxi 70 miles to East Ham, in London, where they were 'last seen' on a station CCTV. They have kept their faces covered and in addition, appear to be living off ready cash from Marten's lush trust fund.

Marten had previously shown photos on a Face Book page of her 'sprogs' - as she called them and there is a photo circulating of Marten holding a little boy (or girl?) aged about eighteen months to two years. The pair apparently had last lived in Greenwich and had fled that and their last abodes leaving rent unpaid and a lot of damage to the properties.

Questions that leave me feeling uneasy about this case:

Why did she give birth in a car (bought just six days earlier and then burnt)?)

Police only mention a 'new born' baby. Where is the two-year-old?

Where are the other 'sprogs'?

If she has a million-poind trust fund, why didn't they pay any rent?

Why are 200 Met Police now looking for the pair?

One paper says Gordon is on a sex-offenders register, so perhaps their other children were taken away by social workers, so the pair perhaps decided to have a baby in secret and then live below the radar for fear of the newborn being removed? Just my theory as to what this is all about. All the police have said is they are worried about the health of mother and baby, who have not received any medical care.

Quote:

Gordon was jailed in the late 1980s in Florida after raping and assaulting a woman when he was 14. After serving a 20-year sentence he was deported back to the UK in 2010.

Napier Marten, an aristocratic film and music producer with links to the royal family, said in a message to his daughter that she was “much loved” and should find safety.

Police have been searching for the couple since their car broke down and caught fire on the M61 near Farnworth, Bolton, on 5 January. Police believe the baby may have been born in the car, and was less than two days old.

GUARDIAN

Gordon broke into two houses in Florida, aged 14, and had violently attacked the inhabitants with weapons.

Quote:

‘He had taken cutlery and placed it around the house so he would have access to weapons. My son was an infant at the time and he was in the room next to us.’

Gordon battered Mr Nash around the head with the heavy shovel leaving him with serious head injuries before he fled the scene.

US police finally caught up with him a month later on June 13, 1989, when he confessed to both raids and was jailed for 40 years.

In 2010, having served half of his sentence, he was deported to the UK and put on the sex offenders register.

DM

Trebuchet · 20th January 2023, 05:22 PM

...a 48-year-old Brit, Mark Gordon, who was deported from the U.S.A. after serving a forty-year jail term...

So, (rule of) he was eight years old when sentenced?
Ok, nevermind.

shemp · 20th January 2023, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

...a 48-year-old Brit, Mark Gordon, who was deported from the U.S.A. after serving a forty-year jail term...

So, (rule of) he was eight years old when sentenced?
Ok, nevermind.

Hey, this isn't the Mathematics forum, whadya expect?

theprestige · 20th January 2023, 08:17 PM

Ah, yes, the proverbial 'aristocratic woman' of song and story.

Vixen · 21st January 2023, 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

...a 48-year-old Brit, Mark Gordon, who was deported from the U.S.A. after serving a forty-year jail term...

So, (rule of) he was eight years old when sentenced?
Ok, nevermind.

He had a 40-year sentence but was released after twenty years in 2010.

Vixen · 21st January 2023, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by theprestige

Ah, yes, the proverbial 'aristocratic woman' of song and story.

According to someone on Twitter (I know, it is not a reliable source!) she is estranged from her parents because they took custody of her other three or four kids. She's been with this guy since circa 2016 and appears to have married him. Listening to the father Napier (supposedly has 'royal connections' because he was once a page to the Queen) going on about bygones and what have you, there does seem to have been some kind of family rift, and Napier mentions he never liked Gordon. Controlling parent using the ex-con's record as a weapon to seize his daughter's kids. Rebellious daughter determines her parents won't be getting their hands on this next one.

Mojo · 21st January 2023, 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

...a 48-year-old Brit, Mark Gordon, who was deported from the U.S.A. after serving a forty-year jail term...

So, (rule of) he was eight years old when sentenced?
Ok, nevermind.

Originally Posted by shemp

Hey, this isn't the Mathematics forum, whadya expect?

The sentence was recorded as 40'0", so there was a bit of ambiguity about the units.

Matthew Best · 21st January 2023, 11:20 AM

He was sentenced to fourty hours?

theprestige · 21st January 2023, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Vixen

According to someone on Twitter (I know, it is not a reliable source!) she is estranged from her parents because they took custody of her other three or four kids. She's been with this guy since circa 2016 and appears to have married him. Listening to the father Napier (supposedly has 'royal connections' because he was once a page to the Queen) going on about bygones and what have you, there does seem to have been some kind of family rift, and Napier mentions he never liked Gordon. Controlling parent using the ex-con's record as a weapon to seize his daughter's kids. Rebellious daughter determines her parents won't be getting their hands on this next one.

Fascinating. Does this Twitter account wear an onion on its belt?

Thermal · 21st January 2023, 01:26 PM

Bit of a head scratcher here. An adult couple is...living somewhere? And the parents of the woman are connected enough to get a manhunt going, with no known crimes having been committed? What are the police going to do if they find the couple? Is this like a welfare check on the newborn, or a littering charge for leaving their burning car on the road, or what?

theprestige · 21st January 2023, 01:47 PM

Forty feet, surely.

Matthew Best · 21st January 2023, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

Forty feet, surely.

I went to a different school.

Myriad · 22nd January 2023, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by theprestige

Ah, yes, the proverbial 'aristocratic woman' of song and story.

"I call it The Aristocrats!"

20th January 2023, 12:44 PM	#1
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 31,485	Hunt for 'missing' aristocratic woman & ex-US convict Unusual story recently about a woman named Constance Marten, 34, who is 'missing' with a 48-year-old Brit, Mark Gordon, who was deported from the U.S.A. after serving a forty-year jail term for brutal rape offences committed when he was fourteen. It is unusual because police haven't said the pair are wanted for a crime. Police say they are concerned about the welfare of the pair's new born baby, which according to one news outlet, was born in a car, which was abandoned by a road side in Bolton, Lancs, UK, after having caught fire, and the couple's belongings burnt. They then headed to Essex (where they once lived, in Ilford) and are believed to have intended to catch a ferry to the Netherlands. Instead they took a taxi 70 miles to East Ham, in London, where they were 'last seen' on a station CCTV. They have kept their faces covered and in addition, appear to be living off ready cash from Marten's lush trust fund. Marten had previously shown photos on a Face Book page of her 'sprogs' - as she called them and there is a photo circulating of Marten holding a little boy (or girl?) aged about eighteen months to two years. The pair apparently had last lived in Greenwich and had fled that and their last abodes leaving rent unpaid and a lot of damage to the properties. Questions that leave me feeling uneasy about this case: Why did she give birth in a car (bought just six days earlier and then burnt)?) Police only mention a 'new born' baby. Where is the two-year-old? Where are the other 'sprogs'? If she has a million-poind trust fund, why didn't they pay any rent? Why are 200 Met Police now looking for the pair? One paper says Gordon is on a sex-offenders register, so perhaps their other children were taken away by social workers, so the pair perhaps decided to have a baby in secret and then live below the radar for fear of the newborn being removed? Just my theory as to what this is all about. All the police have said is they are worried about the health of mother and baby, who have not received any medical care. Quote: Gordon was jailed in the late 1980s in Florida after raping and assaulting a woman when he was 14. After serving a 20-year sentence he was deported back to the UK in 2010. Napier Marten, an aristocratic film and music producer with links to the royal family, said in a message to his daughter that she was “much loved” and should find safety. Police have been searching for the couple since their car broke down and caught fire on the M61 near Farnworth, Bolton, on 5 January. Police believe the baby may have been born in the car, and was less than two days old. GUARDIAN Gordon broke into two houses in Florida, aged 14, and had violently attacked the inhabitants with weapons. Quote: ‘He had taken cutlery and placed it around the house so he would have access to weapons. My son was an infant at the time and he was in the room next to us.’ Gordon battered Mr Nash around the head with the heavy shovel leaving him with serious head injuries before he fled the scene. US police finally caught up with him a month later on June 13, 1989, when he confessed to both raids and was jailed for 40 years. In 2010, having served half of his sentence, he was deported to the UK and put on the sex offenders register. DM
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20th January 2023, 05:22 PM	#2
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 35,644	...a 48-year-old Brit, Mark Gordon, who was deported from the U.S.A. after serving a forty-year jail term... So, (rule of) he was eight years old when sentenced? Ok, nevermind.
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20th January 2023, 07:59 PM	#3
shemp a flimsy character...perfidious and despised Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Out back preparing the bunker for the next Civil War Posts: 52,734	Originally Posted by Trebuchet ...a 48-year-old Brit, Mark Gordon, who was deported from the U.S.A. after serving a forty-year jail term... So, (rule of) he was eight years old when sentenced? Ok, nevermind. Hey, this isn't the Mathematics forum, whadya expect?
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20th January 2023, 08:17 PM	#4
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Antimemetics Division Posts: 63,027	Ah, yes, the proverbial 'aristocratic woman' of song and story.
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21st January 2023, 01:49 AM	#5
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 31,485	Originally Posted by Trebuchet ...a 48-year-old Brit, Mark Gordon, who was deported from the U.S.A. after serving a forty-year jail term... So, (rule of) he was eight years old when sentenced? Ok, nevermind. He had a 40-year sentence but was released after twenty years in 2010.
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21st January 2023, 01:55 AM	#6
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 31,485	Originally Posted by theprestige Ah, yes, the proverbial 'aristocratic woman' of song and story. According to someone on Twitter (I know, it is not a reliable source!) she is estranged from her parents because they took custody of her other three or four kids. She's been with this guy since circa 2016 and appears to have married him. Listening to the father Napier (supposedly has 'royal connections' because he was once a page to the Queen) going on about bygones and what have you, there does seem to have been some kind of family rift, and Napier mentions he never liked Gordon. Controlling parent using the ex-con's record as a weapon to seize his daughter's kids. Rebellious daughter determines her parents won't be getting their hands on this next one.
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21st January 2023, 02:07 AM	#7
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 36,653	Originally Posted by Trebuchet ...a 48-year-old Brit, Mark Gordon, who was deported from the U.S.A. after serving a forty-year jail term... So, (rule of) he was eight years old when sentenced? Ok, nevermind. Originally Posted by shemp Hey, this isn't the Mathematics forum, whadya expect? The sentence was recorded as 40'0", so there was a bit of ambiguity about the units.
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21st January 2023, 11:20 AM	#8
Matthew Best Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Leicester Square, London Posts: 9,669	He was sentenced to fourty hours?

21st January 2023, 01:17 PM	#9
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Antimemetics Division Posts: 63,027	Originally Posted by Vixen According to someone on Twitter (I know, it is not a reliable source!) she is estranged from her parents because they took custody of her other three or four kids. She's been with this guy since circa 2016 and appears to have married him. Listening to the father Napier (supposedly has 'royal connections' because he was once a page to the Queen) going on about bygones and what have you, there does seem to have been some kind of family rift, and Napier mentions he never liked Gordon. Controlling parent using the ex-con's record as a weapon to seize his daughter's kids. Rebellious daughter determines her parents won't be getting their hands on this next one. Fascinating. Does this Twitter account wear an onion on its belt?
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21st January 2023, 01:26 PM	#10
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: In the Troll Ignoring Section Posts: 21,170	Bit of a head scratcher here. An adult couple is...living somewhere? And the parents of the woman are connected enough to get a manhunt going, with no known crimes having been committed? What are the police going to do if they find the couple? Is this like a welfare check on the newborn, or a littering charge for leaving their burning car on the road, or what?
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21st January 2023, 01:47 PM	#11
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Antimemetics Division Posts: 63,027	Forty feet, surely.
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21st January 2023, 02:36 PM	#12
Matthew Best Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Leicester Square, London Posts: 9,669	Originally Posted by theprestige Forty feet, surely. I went to a different school.

22nd January 2023, 07:44 AM	#13
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