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Old 24th October 2019, 07:46 PM   #401
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.
Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral
Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project.
That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf
Plasma has been explained to Sol88 many times over the last 10 or more years but he is too interested in drinking his cult's poison to understand that plasma is a partially ionized gas that is quasi-neutral. !
Sol88's totally insane lie repeated over many years that we have no mainstream model of comets when he cites papers on the mainstream model !
Sol88's totally insane lie that "The nucleus is thus a highly porous very dusty body with very little ice." is Sol88's insanity of comets being actual rock !
Sol88's utterly insane lie for over 4 years that MUPUS hammered into actual rock.
Sol88's persistent insanity of not understanding the difference between the surface of a comet nucleus and its interior.

Sol88's usual insanity to derail from Sol88's insane religious dogma that comets are actual rock (no ices or a demented fantasy of "little ices") blasted from rocky planets by electric discharges between planets including recent times (witnessed by us!) and that these rocks discharge in a massive solar electric field. This insanely tears the rock apart and puts gas and dust into the coma and forms their insanity of jets as electrical discharges !

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Old 24th October 2019, 07:47 PM   #402
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.
Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral
Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project.
That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf
Plasma has been explained to Sol88 many times over the last 10 or more years but he is too interested in drinking his cult's poison to understand that plasma is a partially ionized gas that is quasi-neutral. !
Sol88's totally insane lie repeated over many years that we have no mainstream model of comets when he cites papers on the mainstream model !
Sol88's totally insane lie that "The nucleus is thus a highly porous very dusty body with very little ice." is Sol88's insanity of comets being actual rock !
Sol88's utterly insane lie for over 4 years that MUPUS hammered into actual rock.
Sol88's persistent insanity of not understanding the difference between the surface of a comet nucleus and its interior.

Sol88's usual insanity to derail from Sol88's insane religious dogma that comets are actual rock (no ices or a demented fantasy of "little ices") blasted from rocky planets by electric discharges between planets including recent times (witnessed by us!) and that these rocks discharge in a massive solar electric field. This insanely tears the rock apart and puts gas and dust into the coma and forms their insanity of jets as electrical discharges !

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Old 24th October 2019, 07:51 PM   #403
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Originally Posted by Sol88 View Post
Really??

off topic but how do super Jupiter orbit so close to their parent star?

More ad hocness!

Mainstream are just guessing... this is now how science is done.

Best guess using some very complicated mathamagincs to make it "work"!

Best you leave the big questions till you worked out what comets are.
We know what comets are. You are the one with the unscientific belief system and zero evidence. That is why no real scientists believe your Velikovskian woo.
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Old 24th October 2019, 07:51 PM   #404
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.
Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral
Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project.
That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf
Plasma has been explained to Sol88 many times over the last 10 or more years but he is too interested in drinking his cult's poison to understand that plasma is a partially ionized gas that is quasi-neutral. !
Sol88's totally insane lie repeated over many years that we have no mainstream model of comets when he cites papers on the mainstream model !
Sol88's totally insane lie that "The nucleus is thus a highly porous very dusty body with very little ice." is Sol88's insanity of comets being actual rock !
Sol88's utterly insane lie for over 4 years that MUPUS hammered into actual rock.
Sol88's persistent insanity of not understanding the difference between the surface of a comet nucleus and its interior.

Sol88's usual insanity to derail from Sol88's insane religious dogma that comets are actual rock (no ices or a demented fantasy of "little ices") blasted from rocky planets by electric discharges between planets including recent times (witnessed by us!) and that these rocks discharge in a massive solar electric field. This insanely tears the rock apart and puts gas and dust into the coma and forms their insanity of jets as electrical discharges !

This case of insanity is listing what is not found on comets which is a little of what makes Sol88's comet insanity insane!

A bit of "Limestone = calcium carbonate" insanity from Sol88 in a later post. Limestone "is a carbonate sedimentary rock that is often composed of the skeletal fragments of marine organisms such as coral, foraminifera, and molluscs. Its major materials are the minerals calcite and aragonite, which are different crystal forms of calcium carbonate (CaCO3)." Limestone is specific crystal forms of calcium carbonate. Limestone is a sedimentary rock. Limestone often has fossils in it.

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Old 24th October 2019, 07:52 PM   #405
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where was it formed, Who cares,

What is the D/H ratio of water on various comets? With all that electrochemistry going on, you'd expect some funky stuff! Still funny how mainstream try and relate comets formation to solar system formation. The solar system formation is a nice campfire story!


In the Electric Universe... you know the story



Proven electric currents and electric fields, make me one happy ELECTRIC COMET SUPPORTER.
You're more than welcome to entertain ideas from the era before we had been out into the plasma universe!
More unscientific gibberish! What electrochemistry? Zilch. Not happening. You made it up. You have no science. Only a belief system.
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Old 24th October 2019, 07:58 PM   #406
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.
Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral
Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project.
That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf
Plasma has been explained to Sol88 many times over the last 10 or more years but he is too interested in drinking his cult's poison to understand that plasma is a partially ionized gas that is quasi-neutral. !
Sol88's totally insane lie repeated over many years that we have no mainstream model of comets when he cites papers on the mainstream model !
Sol88's totally insane lie that "The nucleus is thus a highly porous very dusty body with very little ice." is Sol88's insanity of comets being actual rock !
Sol88's utterly insane lie for over 4 years that MUPUS hammered into actual rock.
Sol88's persistent insanity of not understanding the difference between the surface of a comet nucleus and its interior.

Sol88's usual insanity to derail from Sol88's insane religious dogma that comets are actual rock (no ices or a demented fantasy of "little ices") blasted from rocky planets by electric discharges between planets including recent times (witnessed by us!) and that these rocks discharge in a massive solar electric field. This insanely tears the rock apart and puts gas and dust into the coma and forms their insanity of jets as electrical discharges !
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.
Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral
Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project.
That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf
Plasma has been explained to Sol88 many times over the last 10 or more years but he is too interested in drinking his cult's poison to understand that plasma is a partially ionized gas that is quasi-neutral. !
Sol88's totally insane lie repeated over many years that we have no mainstream model of comets when he cites papers on the mainstream model !
Sol88's totally insane lie that "The nucleus is thus a highly porous very dusty body with very little ice." is Sol88's insanity of comets being actual rock !
Sol88's utterly insane lie for over 4 years that MUPUS hammered into actual rock.
Sol88's persistent insanity of not understanding the difference between the surface of a comet nucleus and its interior.

Sol88's usual insanity to derail from Sol88's insane religious dogma that comets are actual rock (no ices or a demented fantasy of "little ices") blasted from rocky planets by electric discharges between planets including recent times (witnessed by us!) and that these rocks discharge in a massive solar electric field. This insanely tears the rock apart and puts gas and dust into the coma and forms their insanity of jets as electrical discharges !

Where his demented cult makes comets form is very relevant. It is rocky planets including Earth. We have measured that comets have different D/H ratios from the early Earth when they could have created Earth's oceans and the disconnect may get worse with the modern Earth. !

Sol88's insanity that electrochemistry turns D into H to alter cometary D/H ratios. Electrochemistry is about electrons !
Sol88's usual insane lies about mainstream solar system formation.
Sol88's usual insane lie that Sol88's demented cult has a solar system formation model.
Sol88's usual insane lies of "Proven electric currents and electric fields" in his demented cult electric universe insanity which is just their electric comet & Sun insanity on larger scales.

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More unscientific gibberish! What electrochemistry? Zilch. Not happening. You made it up. You have no science. Only a belief system.
No, you made up the story comets are
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Comets are the icy remnants left over from the formation of the planets 4.6 billion years ago.
ESA

Are they? You just made up that story. Mainstream are completely clueless.

Still nice way to earn a few $$$$.

Do you even know what electrochemistry is? I'd expect not, with someone wedged so far up the "creation" story clacker, that they must ad hoc to keep the story self consistent!

Who said electric discharge cant happen? Numpties that's who!

We used argue about charge separation CAN NOT happen in ideal MHD... didn't go so well for you and all the other posters here.

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reactions that happen in space are driven by a potential difference.
Potential difference/Charge Separation = Check
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Originally Posted by JeanTate View Post
Facepalm!

Your task - which you’ve been dodging since forever - is to show that the Electric Comet idea is consistent quantitatively with all relevant observations. Time to put up or shut up, wouldn’t you say?

Oh, and there can’t be any carbonates or clays, because these require, and contain, a lot of water. And High Priest Talbott has declared that comets are dry as dry can be.

Ouchy, again....
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if you are so convinced i am sure you can write a concise quantitative text about how you see this happen
It's already been done.

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So what I’m proposing here is, this paradigm or this model can be true if we show that we have a potential difference. In this particular case, I’m making the sun the positive region because of the protons of the solar wind, and the nucleus will be the negative region. Now if you are able to show this, then you can apply without fear an electrochemical model. So this is the key part, and I think this is why it’s going to take us a lot of time in the future, trying to show that there’s a potential difference here
Is there’s a potential difference at 67P?
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Which model?
Maybe you should read whole papers and not only quote mine
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Don't have to, my mate Reality Check has confirmed I now must call the standard mainstream model of comets "Icy dirtballs"

Fair call, cob?
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if you are so convinced i am sure you can write a concise quantitative text about how you see this happen
It's already been done.


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So what I’m proposing here is, this paradigm or this model can be true if we show that we have a potential difference. In this particular case, I’m making the sun the positive region because of the protons of the solar wind, and the nucleus will be the negative region. Now if you are able to show this, then you can apply without fear an electrochemical model. So this is the key part, and I think this is why it’s going to take us a lot of time in the future, trying to show that there’s a potential difference here
Is there’s a potential difference at 67P?
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Sublimation NOT needed!

Electric fields ARE needed.

Electrochemistry is the result.
Would you mind answering my question, and in your own words?

I'm asking you in what way does this water generation prove your general theory. And while you're at it, why and how does it make the "mostly icy comet" theory incorrect?
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Electrochemistry




It's already been done.




Is there’s a potential difference at 67P?
Oh really, show me the water production then, just copypaste the calculations that show that the observed and measured densities can be reached with you electric idea.
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No use, unless you can walk me step by step on how MAINSTREAM model Q.

Because the comet is only giving off pissy amounts of water, this is well and truly accounted for in the electrochemical model.

Do we have any of the ingredients needed, for this electrochemistry model to a least be plausible?

Is there an electric field causing a potential difference between the solar wind and the nucleus?

Are any of the ingredients necessary for the production of water ions found on a comets surface?

Step this idiot thru those three questions and you know you answer the very question you ask.
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Because the comet is only giving off pissy amounts of water, this is well and truly accounted for in the electrochemical model.
Is another lie. And you have no mechanism. Lol. Go back to school. Assuming you ever attended one.
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Do we have any of the ingredients needed, for this electrochemistry model to a least be plausible?
You have no mechanism. And the amounts rule out such idiotic woo.

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Is there an electric field causing a potential difference between the solar wind and the nucleus?
Errrr, what? You mean like at asteroids?

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Are any of the ingredients necessary for the production of water ions found on a comets surface?
You think water just magics itself into being? As noted - you have no mechanism.

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Step this idiot thru those three questions and you know you answer the very question you ask.
Any idiot can see that the questions could only have been posed by an idiot.
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No use, unless you can walk me step by step on how MAINSTREAM model Q.

Because the comet is only giving off pissy amounts of water, this is well and truly accounted for in the electrochemical model.

Do we have any of the ingredients needed, for this electrochemistry model to a least be plausible?

Is there an electric field causing a potential difference between the solar wind and the nucleus?

Are any of the ingredients necessary for the production of water ions found on a comets surface?

Step this idiot thru those three questions and you know you answer the very question you ask.
right, like I am going to do the work for you ...

So you got zilch
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No use, unless you can walk me step by step on how MAINSTREAM model Q.

Because the comet is only giving off pissy amounts of water, this is well and truly accounted for in the electrochemical model.

Do we have any of the ingredients needed, for this electrochemistry model to a least be plausible?

Is there an electric field causing a potential difference between the solar wind and the nucleus?

Are any of the ingredients necessary for the production of water ions found on a comets surface?

Step this idiot thru those three questions and you know you answer the very question you ask.
Would you mind answering my question, and in your own words?

I'm asking you in what way does this water generation prove your general theory. And while you're at it, why and how does it make the "mostly icy comet" theory incorrect?
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Would you mind answering my question, and in your own words?

I'm asking you in what way does this water generation prove your general theory. And while you're at it, why and how does it make the "mostly icy comet" theory incorrect?
forget it, we are never going to get a straight answer from sol
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To be fair, Sol88 did make what seemed like a good faith effort to at least start to sketch an Electric Comet (EC) idea. Sadly, however, he gave up once even making ball-park estimates (or guesses) seemed too hard.
You goaded him into it, but he soon gave up because he realised what this would lead to.

Just like he will not even attempt to show how the EC mechanism can produce the measured amount of water.
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Or explain why the 'potential difference' needed to make his EC 'model' work does not affect the solar wind. Or planets. Or spacecraft.

Or explain how the putative currents fueling his EC sun model do not fry the planets as those are more conductive than the vacuum of space.

Or explain what mechanism would even create a uniform potential difference around each star that does not interfere with any other star.

In fact, his whole MO is avoiding anything to do with explaining and modelling his 'theory' and only focus on quote mining and misinterpreting minute details in order to steer away from having to actually explain things.
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You goaded him into it, but he soon gave up because he realised what this would lead to.

Just like he will not even attempt to show how the EC mechanism can produce the measured amount of water.

Well, the problem for Sol is that the 'mechanism' keeps changing! First off, it was Thornhill's dumb idea of solar wind H+ combining with O-
which had been created by EDM (lol) of the surface. It was trivially easy to show that this could not explain the water production rate in the very early stages of the mission, by ~ 7 OOM, even if it were a viable mechanism. Which it isn't. And the inconvenient fact that the solar wind is getting nowhere near the nucleus for months on end. So, that got kicked into touch.

Next up was hydrated minerals! That was also easy to show to be impossible, due to the temperatures required to extract any water from these minerals.

So, now we are onto some indefinable woo regarding hydrocarbons.
It is rather pathetic to watch, as a non-scientist tries to hang on to their quasi-religious belief system, by continually having to make up nonsense to justify it in their own mind. It is an interesting spectacle, from a psychological point of view, to watch this occurring. If I ever choose to do another degree, I might use this as a case history in something along the lines of, 'The Psychology of Pseudoscience.' It would make a decent thesis!

Of course, it has nothing whatsoever to do with real science.
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Old 25th October 2019, 01:09 PM   #426
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Or explain why the 'potential difference' needed to make his EC 'model' work does not affect the solar wind. Or planets. Or spacecraft.

Or explain how the putative currents fueling his EC sun model do not fry the planets as those are more conductive than the vacuum of space.

Or explain what mechanism would even create a uniform potential difference around each star that does not interfere with any other star.

In fact, his whole MO is avoiding anything to do with explaining and modelling his 'theory' and only focus on quote mining and misinterpreting minute details in order to steer away from having to actually explain things.

We have currents.

Cool. Be very difficult in an electric Universe with no actual currents.

Electric currents not needed or required in a Big Bang Universe.

If the extended tail if a comet is a current system....


Any charge seperation leading to an electric field and a potential difference at comets?

Yes, yes but they don’t do anything..... classic mainstream ignorance.
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We have currents.

Cool. Be very difficult in an electric Universe with no actual currents.

Electric currents not needed or required in a Big Bang Universe.

If the extended tail if a comet is a current system....


Any charge seperation leading to an electric field and a potential difference at comets?

Yes, yes but they don’t do anything..... classic mainstream ignorance.
Classic gibberish and word salad. Zero science. As usual.
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Any charge seperation leading to an electric field and a potential difference at comets?

Yes, yes but they don’t do anything.....
So, instead of talking crap, how about you tell us what you think they are doing? You know - a model that we can test against observation and evidence?
I'll tell you what this planetary science grad, with sod all interest in, nor understanding of, plasma physics, thinks - the Debye length in the solar wind is ~ 10m. Less, I would imagine, in a cometary coma. Any charge separation is going to be limited in extent, both spatially and temporally. The plasma, by definition, is quasi-neutral, and will react to preserve that quasi-neutrality. There is no way that it cannot. The polarisation (ambipolar) fields that have got you wetting your knickers, are exactly what is expected in a quasi-neutral plasma. It is retarding one charge, and accelerating another, to overcome any small scale charge separation. Happens in all sorts of places, I imagine. Hence the magnetic Reynolds number, and the Debye length. Et boring cetera. What are those values for the solar wind? A cometary coma? The magnetosphere? The solar corona? I doubt anybody associated with EU woo even understands the questions, let alone can provide an answer. And that includes clowns like Scott and Thornhill.
So, when you have found yourself somebody with clue one about plasma physics, get back to us. Hint; not going to happen!

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I should say that my interest, such as it is, in plasma physics, only goes back a few years to the time when I first encountered EU wooists at the Rosetta blog. Thanks to people like Tusenfem, and others, as well as the scientific literature, it has not been difficult to see that EUists are clueless on the subject. Why they believe otherwise, is beyond me!
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Whoops. Had to write to Jean Lilensten about that! Has emailed me, and told me that he has removed Scott's woo from his site. This is a serious site about planeterrella experiments, public education, etc. He now knows about his error, and has fixed it.
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Whoops. Had to write to Jean Lilensten about that! Has emailed me, and told me that he has removed Scott's woo from his site. This is a serious site about planeterrella experiments, public education, etc. He now knows about his error, and has fixed it.


Ummmm.....
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The Northern Lights are nature’s very own beautiful and dynamic light show, captivating all who gaze upon them. Since the beginning of time, people have tried to understand what causes the aurorae, resulting in myriad myths and legends. But it was only a hundred years ago, when Norwegian physicist Kristian Birkeland led a daring expedition to the top of an arctic mountain, that scientists realised that the aurorae are created by charged particles from the Sun travelling along the Earth’s magnetic field lines and exciting our atmosphere. Back in his laboratory in Oslo, Birkeland proved his hypothesis to the world with a famous experiment where he created auroral light around magnetic spheres inside a small vacuum chamber.
Jean Lilensten, Dr Gabrielle Provan of the University of Leicester's



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Birkeland current
A Birkeland current usually refers to the electric currents in a planet’s ionosphere that follows magnetic field lines (ie field-aligned currents), and sometimes used to described any field-aligned electric current in a space plasma.[3] They are caused by the movement of a plasma perpendicular to a magnetic field. Birkeland currents often show filamentary, or twisted “rope-like” magnetic structure. They are also known as field-aligned currents, magnetic ropes and magnetic cables).
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What are Birkeland currents?

How are Birkeland currents formed? What do Birkeland filaments have to do with space plasma?

Why does astronomy and science refer to these twisting spiralling charged plasma phenomena as magnetic ropes, Flux Transfer Events (FTE's), space tornadoes?

Are the confirmed Birkeland plasma currents in our solar system, connecting the planets to the sun, evidence of an Electric Universe?

You can read more about the discoverer of them, Kristian Birkeland.

Birkeland filaments, plasma z-pinches (zeta pinch) and plasma double layers also seem to be a common plasma partnership in space.
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The gas, of course, is plasma, a word that’s not present in consensus astronomy’s lexicon. The filaments are Birkeland currents, identifiable by their coherence over large distances, their twisting about each other into cable structures, and their pinching into high-density “star-forming” instabilities. The networks are better known in plasma physics as circuits. The image above is a snapshot of a cosmic electrical discharge.
Further reading on Birkeland currents and the Electric Universe



Good thing you warned Jean Lilensten!



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Jean Lilensten, Dr Gabrielle Provan of the University of Leicester's







Further reading on Birkeland currents and the Electric Universe



Good thing you warned Jean Lilensten!



Nope. He wrote science, you followed it up with links to woo sites. As usual.
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Nope that’s mainstream science followed by its application to the universe.


Cheers again.

Glad you had the cojones to email ‘ol mate.

Are you now denying Birkeland currents? This is mainstream science.

Same argument we are having now as Birkeland did 100yrs ago.

He was correct, funnily enough.

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Birkeland currents, Z pinch and double layers are the ELECTRIC UNIVERSE.
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Nope that’s mainstream science followed by its application to the universe.


Cheers again.

Glad you had the cojones to email ‘ol mate.

Are you now denying Birkeland currents? This is mainstream science.

Same argument we are having now as Birkeland did 100yrs ago.

He was correct, funnily enough.

Errr, we've known about Birkeland currents in the magnetosphere since before your cult was formed.
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Birkeland currents, Z pinch and double layers are the ELECTRIC UNIVERSE.
And where are they? No, the electric universe crap is about invisible, impossible currents powering the Sun. And comets being rocks left over from Velikovskian woo a few thousand years ago. And craters ditto. Et cetera. All demonstrably wrong, and totally lacking in science.
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Don't have to, my mate Reality Check has confirmed I now must call the standard mainstream model of comets "Icy dirtballs"

Fair call, cob?
nope, no fair call, why trust RC at all?
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Whoops. Had to write to Jean Lilensten about that! Has emailed me, and told me that he has removed Scott's woo from his site. This is a serious site about planeterrella experiments, public education, etc. He now knows about his error, and has fixed it.
Liliensten is the doctor father of my new postdoc :-)
We are going to build a planeterrella at our institute for public outreach.
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Jean Lilensten, Dr Gabrielle Provan of the University of Leicester's

Further reading on Birkeland currents and the Electric Universe

Good thing you warned Jean Lilensten!
Indeed good, because the rubbish that you quoted here shows clearly that the EU gang only quote mines and writes inunderstandable "explanations" like "They are caused by the movement of a plasma perpendicular to a magnetic field."

I am sure we will get soon the Thornhill paper again, where he reinvents the wheel and claims he is the only one who knows it all (repeating textbook physics, sometimes incorrectly).
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Birkeland currents, Z pinch and double layers are the ELECTRIC UNIVERSE.
Birkeland currents, Z pinches and double layers are regurlar (space) plasma physics.
When you misappropriate these structures without basic knowledge of plasma physics you get the electric universe.
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