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Old 30th December 2018, 01:47 PM   #241
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As usual, you are trying too hard to be clever. What I posted is exactly what I mean.
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Old 30th December 2018, 02:49 PM   #242
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Originally Posted by psionl0 View Post
Funny that these self styled prophets are quite happy to quote the bible when it suits their purposes but ignore the biblical warning that "nobody knows the day nor the hour".
Funnier still how God believers are quite happy to quote the bible when it suits their purposes but ignore the biblical prophecies that the “2nd coming” will be within the lifetime of those alive at the time.

“you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes” (Matt. 10:23)
“there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom” (Matt. 16:28)
“there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power” (Mk. 9:1; cf.*Lk. 9:27)
“this generation will not pass away until all these things take place” (Matt. 24:34).

It is now nearly 2019. Nowhere on this planet is it “within the lifetime of those alive at the time” any more. That means that the window for these particular prophecies are now well and truly closed. The self-styled prophets of The Bible were every bit as wrong and deluded as all other self-styled prophets like Elwin.
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Old 30th December 2018, 03:52 PM   #243
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Originally Posted by psionl0 View Post
I wasn't trying to make an inference. I was just listing the facts as I see them. Did I get any wrong?
Of course not, since it should be pretty clear that the prophet in question has failed. But this seems like a reasonable place to be facetious, and to point out that the best prophets can spin even total failure into success when it confirms Biblical text.
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Old 30th December 2018, 05:02 PM   #244
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Originally Posted by bruto View Post
Of course not, since it should be pretty clear that the prophet in question has failed. But this seems like a reasonable place to be facetious, and to point out that the best prophets can spin even total failure into success when it confirms Biblical text.

The best prophets yes indeed. To see some of them in action fills you with awe. The apparent confirmation of Biblical text is easy when you get to make up the interpretation of it.
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Old 30th December 2018, 06:33 PM   #245
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We have entered into the "age to come" foretold by Jesus in Mark 10:30.
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Old 30th December 2018, 06:42 PM   #246
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Originally Posted by Elwin Garland View Post
We have entered into the "age to come" foretold by Jesus in Mark 10:30.
How does that clean the filth?
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Old 30th December 2018, 06:51 PM   #247
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Originally Posted by Elwin Garland View Post
We have entered into the "age to come" foretold by Jesus in Mark 10:30.

It feels to my exactly the same as the "age we just left". I would love for you to explain how today is different than yesterday. Or are you like the Character in Howard Schoenfeld's Built up Logically who moved the entire Universe forward 10 million years in time, and everything stayed exactly the same because everything moved forward.



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Old 30th December 2018, 06:53 PM   #248
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Oh BTW, you have to do Mark 10:29 first for verse 30 to work.

Did you?

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Old 30th December 2018, 06:59 PM   #249
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The best prophets yes indeed. To see some of them in action fills you with awe. The apparent confirmation of Biblical text is easy when you get to make up the interpretation of it.
Originally Posted by Elwin Garland View Post
We have entered into the "age to come" foretold by Jesus in Mark 10:30.

As I said. So now we have a different take on it as interpreted by Elwin.
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Old 30th December 2018, 07:08 PM   #250
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Originally Posted by Elwin Garland View Post
We have entered into the "age to come" foretold by Jesus in Mark 10:30.
The pathetic prophesy of "Soon".

"It'll happen tomorrow" is meaningless because "Tomorrow never comes".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US1bl1CBAfk
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Old 30th December 2018, 07:13 PM   #251
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The pathetic prophesy of "Soon".

"It'll happen tomorrow" is meaningless because "Tomorrow never comes".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US1bl1CBAfk

It's jam yesterday, and jam tomorrow, but never jam today.


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Old 30th December 2018, 07:24 PM   #252
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Originally Posted by Elwin Garland View Post
We have entered into the "age to come" foretold by Jesus in Mark 10:30.

How slowly comes the age to come, and how will we tell? How many hours, days, centuries or millennia do we wait before the latest crop of prophetasters is willing to concede that "now in this time" is not pulling into the station just now?

By the way, I note from the web site that "eternal peace is here to stay." Where is here?

Further edit: on a different note, however vehemently I disagree with Elwin Garland's opinions, he gets some credit for coming back.
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Old 30th December 2018, 07:39 PM   #253
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Ok, Elwin, I finished cooking and eating my spaghetti. Now I can focus. Guess this is part of the hundredfold persecutions in verse 30 you gotta endure now, but what happened to those days of darkness? Seriously. I’m sure you would never post anything that serious without first praying or consulting with your god, right? I mean this thing of yours has gone on for 2300 days or so. How do you feel now that your god was just jerking your chain, playing you for a fool? I know what it’s like because I have been there before until I finally took a different take on a well known verse from II Corinthians:

“But when I became a man, I put away childish things”.

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Old 30th December 2018, 07:40 PM   #254
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So basically we all made the cut and no darkness or nukes were required?
A lot.of hoopla for nothing.
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Old 30th December 2018, 09:33 PM   #255
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Originally Posted by Elwin Garland View Post
We have entered into the "age to come" foretold by Jesus in Mark 10:30.
Did it concern you at any level you were wrong and no darkness occurred?

Or are you so deeply, hopelessly lost in your delusion that it doesn't even matter?
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Old 30th December 2018, 09:58 PM   #256
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Originally Posted by Elwin Garland View Post
We have entered into the "age to come" foretold by Jesus in Mark 10:30.
Did Daniel 8:14 come true as you predicted?
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Old 30th December 2018, 09:58 PM   #257
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Oh damn, did I miss another apocalypse?
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Old 30th December 2018, 10:50 PM   #258
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We have entered into the "age to come" foretold by Jesus in Mark 10:30.
mmm.... sexy
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As usual, you are trying too hard to be clever. What I posted is exactly what I mean.

*after the fact theory* ---> rejected
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Originally Posted by Elwin Garland View Post
We have entered into the "age to come" foretold by Jesus in Mark 10:30.
We're still in the "age of business as usual" as foretold by everyone with a forehead taller than one and a half inch.

Besides Mark's only contains the word of Mark, if even that.

Stop dragging Saint Jesus' name on the mud.
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So basically we all made the cut and no darkness or nukes were required?
A lot.of hoopla for nothing.

Who wudavthunk "infinite mercy" and "love of god" were exactly that!? (clue: everyone who thinks the bible is true)
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According to that Bible verse we're all immortal. Well, how to fill my time....
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We have entered into the "age to come" foretold by Jesus in Mark 10:30.
And this 'age' differs from previous ones how, exactly?
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The pathetic prophesy of "Soon".

"It'll happen tomorrow" is meaningless because "Tomorrow never comes".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US1bl1CBAfk
Apparently there's a "Rule of Soon" as well as "So"!

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Oh damn, did I miss another apocalypse?
Don't worry there will be another one along shortly!
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What's that line from Buffy the Vampire Slaying about never imagining you'd have to know the plural form of "Apocalypse?"
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You guys misinterpreted the good word, What he meant was this;
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*after the fact theory* ---> rejected
What a "clever" response.
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We have entered into the "age to come" foretold by Jesus in Mark 10:30.
Kinda disappointed in your “age to come” explanation for this “cleansing of the filth” forecast. Maybe I’m just stupid but I don’t see where one relates to the other. I know some of the old Millerites eventually decided that the cleansing occurred in heaven and not on Earth as a justification for a failed prophecy but that’s a script that’s been played for about 175 years now and is rather unconvincing in our modern times.

At least we know you have been back to monitor our opinions. Maybe the reverse can happen. Maybe you can take stock of your beliefs and see the faults in them that some of us can see. Believe what I say for I have been there. I used to believe some really wacky things with no evidence whatsoever but my blind faith in something that I wanted to believe.

Even the great warrior and leader Sitting Bull succombed to the Ghost Shirt delusion because he was so desperate to restore the familiarity of his people’s history. So sad.

Hopefully you can use this time to reflect, review, and critique your beliefs. Keep an open mind and ask yourself why your god is always letting you down. We know you are watching. Be honest with yourself.

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Note to self: always remember to ask, in these repent-sinners-the-end-is-nigh threads, the following question:

"If the [end of the world / rain of blood and fire / apocalypse / great reckoning / rapture] that you're predicting does take place on [the date you're predicting], will we actually notice? Or will we need you to come back and explain how we've now entered some sort of new era that's outwardly indistinguishable from the former one?"
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Install the best locks and security. Jesus is coming as a "thief in the night."
WWJS - What Would Jesus Steal?
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Oh damn, did I miss another apocalypse?
Don't worry, we had it covered.
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WWJS - What Would Jesus Steal?
Apparently world domination. That's the worrisome thing. It's going to be a Theocracy where he will be the high priest and his favorites the ruling class.

Myles mentions the Seventh-Day Adventist fudge created when the 1843,4 return fizzled. So Jesus didn't come to Earth but went into the Holy of Holies of the Heavenly Sanctuary to begin the "Investigative Judgement."

Now Jesus is reviewing your case. If you have exhibited obedience to God's Commandments, your name will remain in The Book of Life, and when Jesus returns you'll get resurrected or taken up to Heaven.

After a thousand years, Jesus will recreate the Earth and the obedient will settle on it. It will be a paradise of people who do what they are told. No need for Human, democratic, republican governments.

So nice!
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Sadly that is how my father suggested we live our lives when he was into the Worldwide Church of God out of Pasadena CA.

He believed and preached unthinking obedience to Bible based ideals as interpreted by his chosen leader.
The other parts of life one just faked fitting into as best possible while awaiting the rapture.

He was still quite worldly about nice stuff and making good money but as they tithed up to offering copies of tax papers to the church such things were accepted.

With only 3,000 souls going to glory of a church of tens of thousands the competition was tough

He was sure he made the short list. He and Elwin could talk for days if dementia hadn't set in. Or maybe it would help?
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Note to self: always remember to ask, in these repent-sinners-the-end-is-nigh threads, the following question:

"If the [end of the world / rain of blood and fire / apocalypse / great reckoning / rapture] that you're predicting does take place on [the date you're predicting], will we actually notice? Or will we need you to come back and explain how we've now entered some sort of new era that's outwardly indistinguishable from the former one?"

You have to have faith to notice. Elwin's prediction did come to pass but non-believers like you and I couldn't see it.
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Sadly that is how my father suggested we live our lives when he was into the Worldwide Church of God out of Pasadena CA.

He believed and preached unthinking obedience to Bible based ideals as interpreted by his chosen leader.
The other parts of life one just faked fitting into as best possible while awaiting the rapture.

He was still quite worldly about nice stuff and making good money but as they tithed up to offering copies of tax papers to the church such things were accepted.

With only 3,000 souls going to glory of a church of tens of thousands the competition was tough

He was sure he made the short list. He and Elwin could talk for days if dementia hadn't set in. Or maybe it would help?
The magic number for early Seventh-Day Adventists was 144,000.
Their prophet, Ellen G. White had a vision of the 144,000 "standing in a perfect square" before the throne of God.

Before I became an SDA, I looked into joining the Worldwide Church of God. A couple of representatives visited me. They were so narrow minded and full of themselves that I dismissed any further contact.
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Old 1st January 2019, 03:54 PM   #277
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Originally Posted by Apathia View Post
Before I became an SDA, I looked into joining the Worldwide Church of God. A couple of representatives visited me. They were so narrow minded and full of themselves that I dismissed any further contact.
It amazes me how theists can apparently choose what god to believe in and what sect to worship in as if they’re merely choosing what clothing to wear for the day. A whole god/sect can be dismissed merely because “a couple of representatives were narrow minded and full of themselves” - amazing!.

If there was an actual and correct god and a correct religious sect through which to worship it, then wouldn't it be reasonable to expect that such a god would make its own existence and the correct sect obvious? Especially when getting the god and/or sect wrong would have such dire consequences if that god were true. Why do we get thousands of gods and thousands of sects? Could it possibly be it’s because there are no correct gods or sects as they’re all wrong (DOH!)?
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Well, at least 144,000 is Biblical in origin. It is cited in several places in Revelation.


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Originally Posted by Apathia View Post
The magic number for early Seventh-Day Adventists was 144,000.
Their prophet, Ellen G. White had a vision of the 144,000 "standing in a perfect square" before the throne of God.

That will be a miraculous sight to see, a perfect square formed by 379.47331922 rows of 379.47331922 people each.
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That will be a miraculous sight to see, a perfect square formed by 379.47331922 rows of 379.47331922 people each.
That's why it's called The Rupture.
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