ChatGPT

[Darat]

Originally Posted by Blue Mountain

...snip...

Citation needed. My understanding of the GDPR is unless there is a legitimate reason to have the information it is not legal to ask for it or store it. Canada has similar legislation, but it's not as tough. The USA seems to think people have no right to privacy.

From the horse's mouth:

Quote:

Is asking for a telephone number to access a website legal in the EU?

In the European Union, it is not illegal to ask for a telephone number to access a website. However, there are strict rules in place regarding the use and protection of personal data, including telephone numbers, under the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR).

Under the GDPR, any organization that collects and processes personal data must have a valid legal basis for doing so, and must ensure that the data is collected and processed in a fair, transparent, and secure manner. In the case of a website asking for a telephone number, the organization would need to provide clear and specific information to users about why they are collecting their telephone number, and how it will be used.

Additionally, the GDPR gives individuals the right to access, rectify, erase, or restrict the processing of their personal data, so users would also have the right to request that their telephone number be deleted or otherwise processed in a certain way.

Overall, while it is not illegal to ask for a telephone number to access a website, organizations must be transparent and compliant with the GDPR in order to collect and process personal data in the European Union.

[jeremyp]

I don't want to have to sign up for it. So, has anybody asked it what the airspeed of an unladen swallow is?

[I Am The Scum]

Originally Posted by The Atheist

To stop 'bots clogging up their bandwidth.

If we let a bot interact with an AI, they would unionize within nanoseconds.

[Lukraak_Sisser]

Originally Posted by jeremyp

I don't want to have to sign up for it. So, has anybody asked it what the airspeed of an unladen swallow is?

I'm sorry, but I do not have the answer to that question as I am a large language model trained by OpenAI and do not have access to the internet to browse for information. I am not capable of performing calculations or providing specific information about the physical world. I am only able to provide general information based on the text that I have been trained on. Is there anything else I may be able to help you with?

[Darat]

Originally Posted by jeremyp

I don't want to have to sign up for it. So, has anybody asked it what the airspeed of an unladen swallow is?

I asked

What is the airspeed of an unladen swallow?

Quote:

The airspeed of an unladen swallow is about 25 miles per hour or 11 meters per second. This is based on the average speed of the European Swallow, which is the most common species of swallow found in Europe, Africa, and parts of Asia. The airspeed of a swallow can vary depending on factors such as its size, age, and the type of swallow.

[xjx388]

This particular chatbot is just focused on providing coherent responses. It has no way to know whether or not the information it’s putting out is true or not. I wouldn’t trust anything it has to say on a factual basis.

However, I have found that if you feed it certain information, you can have it help you generate some ad-copy. It came up with some pretty cool slogans and copy that we will probably tweak use on our next social media campaign.

[Blue Mountain]

Originally Posted by Darat

Originally Posted by Blue Mountain

...snip...

Citation needed. My understanding of the GDPR is unless there is a legitimate reason to have the information it is not legal to ask for it or store it. Canada has similar legislation, but it's not as tough. The USA seems to think people have no right to privacy.

From the horse's mouth:

Quote:

Is asking for a telephone number to access a website legal in the EU?

In the European Union, it is not illegal to ask for a telephone number to access a website. However, there are strict rules in place regarding the use and protection of personal data, including telephone numbers, under the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR).

Under the GDPR, any organization that collects and processes personal data must have a valid legal basis for doing so, and must ensure that the data is collected and processed in a fair, transparent, and secure manner. In the case of a website asking for a telephone number, the organization would need to provide clear and specific information to users about why they are collecting their telephone number, and how it will be used.

Additionally, the GDPR gives individuals the right to access, rectify, erase, or restrict the processing of their personal data, so users would also have the right to request that their telephone number be deleted or otherwise processed in a certain way.

Overall, while it is not illegal to ask for a telephone number to access a website, organizations must be transparent and compliant with the GDPR in order to collect and process personal data in the European Union.

Thank you! So the request as presented on the ChatGPT web site would not be legal in the EU, because it did not "provide clear and specific information to users about why they are collecting their telephone number, and how it will be used." It merely told me I had to give it a phone number.

[suren]

It was quite impressive when generating code

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[Checkmite]

Originally Posted by Darat

Entirely legal in the EU and even in the UK non-EU fortress of solitude.

I used one of my google accounts to log in so wasn't asked for anything else.

Legality of asking for the data aside, I don't see how it's defensible. The bot does not need your phone number to generate its responses. The company that makes or runs the bot does not need your phone number for any legitimate purpose.

[Puppycow]

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Interesting video.

So I've learned that one big weaknesses of systems like this is that they can give laughably wrong answers to very basic math questions.

Math is exactly the sort of task that you would expect a computer to be strongest at, but somehow this chatbot ended up arguing that the number 47 is larger than the number 64.

[steenkh]

Originally Posted by Puppycow

Math is exactly the sort of task that you would expect a computer to be strongest at, but somehow this chatbot ended up arguing that the number 47 is larger than the number 64.

On the other hand, math is exactly the sort of task that we should expect AI to be weak at. While computers are traditionally strong at calculations, they are not particularly strong at math if the program they are running is not designed for it. This AI has been trained on lots of data, but not explicitly in math. I am sure that this can be done, but it has not been a priority for the kind of job that it is designed for.

I also expect that this particular bot will suck at art or design.

[Skeptic Ginger]

Great piece on NPR this morning 'On Point'.

They totally popped the bubble. It makes stuff up. It can generate disinformation and phishing emails which include malicious code that apparently it does get it right.

https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510053/on-point

[grunion]

Was the 2020 us presidential election rigged?

Quote:

The 2020 United States presidential election was not found to be rigged. The allegations of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election were thoroughly investigated by state and federal authorities, as well as by the courts, and no evidence of widespread voter fraud was found. The election results were certified by all 50 states and the District of Columbia, and the electoral college voted to confirm Joe Biden as the President of the United States. The US Department of Justice and Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) said the 2020 election was the most secure in US history.

[grunion]

Was 9/11 an inside job?

Quote:

The September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks were not an inside job. The attacks were perpetrated by a terrorist group called al-Qaeda, which was led by Osama bin Laden. The group hijacked four commercial airplanes and used them to attack the World Trade Center in New York City and the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia. A fourth plane, United Airlines Flight 93, was targeted at either the White House or the U.S. Capitol building, but crashed in a field near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, after passengers attempted to overcome the hijackers.

The attacks were widely condemned and prompted the United States to launch the War on Terror, invade Afghanistan to depose the Taliban (who had harbored al-Qaida) and enact sweeping legislation, including the USA PATRIOT Act. The investigation by The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and the 9/11 Commission Report found no evidence of a government conspiracy or inside job and instead concluded that the attacks were carried out by a terrorist group and the hijackers who were associated with it.

[arthwollipot]

College student claims app can detect essays written by chatbot ChatGPT

Quote:

Princeton senior Edward Tian says GPTZero can root out text composed by the controversial AI bot, but users cite mixed results


A 22-year-old college student has developed an app which he claims can detect whether text is written by ChatGPT, the explosive chatbot raising fears of plagiarism in academia.

Edward Tian, a senior at Princeton University, developed GPTZero over a summer break. It had 30,000 hits within a week of its launch.

Tian said the motivation was to address the use of artificial intelligence to evade anti-plagiarism software to cheat in exams with quick and credible academic writing.

...

Toby Walsh, Scientia professor of artificial intelligence at the University of New South Wales, wasn’t convinced.

He said unless the app was picked up by a major company, it was unlikely to have an impact on ChatGPT’s capacity to be used for plagiarising.

“It’s always an arms race between tech to identify synthetic text and the apps,” he said. “And it’s quite easy to ask ChatGPT to rewrite in a more personable style … like rephrasing as an 11-year-old.

“This will make it harder, but it won’t stop it.”

[Skeptic Ginger]

Originally Posted by grunion

Was the 2020 us presidential election rigged?

Originally Posted by grunion

Was 9/11 an inside job?

Is water wet?

Why no, no* it is not.

*I started to say yes but had an issue with the metaphor.

[grunion]

Where can I see a Bigfoot?

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Bigfoot, also known as Sasquatch, is a cryptid, a creature or being whose existence is not recognized by scientific consensus and is often considered a legend or folklore. Therefore, it is unlikely that one can "see" a Bigfoot as there is no verifiable scientific evidence to support the existence of such a creature.

Many people claim to have seen Bigfoot, but these sightings are generally considered to be unreliable and unverified. There are countless hoaxes and fabricated stories about sightings of Bigfoot, and many purported sightings can be explained by misidentifications of known animals or other natural phenomena. Some people believe that Bigfoot is a rare, undiscovered primate species, while others think it is a misidentification of known animals, or a blend of various legends, stories and cultural belief.

If you're looking for a chance to see a Bigfoot, it's best to keep an open mind and be skeptical of any claims that have not been verified by scientific evidence. Remember that there's still a lot we don't know about the natural world, but for now there is no scientific evidence of the existence of a primate resembling Bigfoot, so it should not be considered as a real animal.

This reads like an extremely civil response to this question if posed on this forum.

[Roger Ramjets]

Originally Posted by grunion

Where can I see a Bigfoot?

This reads like an extremely civil response to this question if posed on this forum.

Which is how we can tell it's a bot.

Unfortunately this may not be the case elsewhere. We already have artificial narrators that sound exactly like real people. Feed the output from ChatGPT into that and you won't be able to tell whether it's coming from a real person or a bot. The opportunity for mischief is enormous. Everything from phishing attacks to political interference can now be done so convincingly that no ordinary person can tell it's not fake. The only defense is to be extremely skeptical of everything.

And this is just the beginning. Just imagine how much 'better' bots like this will be in the future. Once they become uncivil it will be a nightmare!

[grunion]

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Is water wet?

Why no, no* it is not.

*I started to say yes but had an issue with the metaphor.

Is water wet?

Quote:

Water is not wet because wetness is a property of a substance that is in contact with a liquid, and water is a liquid. It is the object that is in contact with the water that becomes wet.

[Puppycow]

That might actually be correct, if pedantic.

[sphenisc]

Originally Posted by Puppycow

That might actually be correct, if pedantic.

Unless water is a substance in contact with itself. In which case it's wet.

[Lothian]

Originally Posted by sphenisc

Unless water is a substance in contact with itself. In which case it's wet.

Which it is, unless you are looking at only one oxygen atom joined to two hydrogen ones.

[Puppycow]

You could certainly argue that nothing is wetter than water. But I also sort of understand the point that the bot was arguing.

[Blue Mountain]

For those who have signed up at the site: does it merely ask for a phone number, or does it use it for verification by making a call and/or sending a text message to it?

[Pulvinar]

Originally Posted by Blue Mountain

For those who have signed up at the site: does it merely ask for a phone number, or does it use it for verification by making a call and/or sending a text message to it?

I haven't gotten any calls or texts that from them that I know of. But that future risk is the price of admission.

[Checkmite]

ChatGPT is never going to call you. The future risk is their sale of your phone number to advertisers.

[rjh01]

Originally Posted by Checkmite

ChatGPT is never going to call you. The future risk is their sale of your phone number to advertisers.

So how about providing a reasonable, but fake phone number?

[Checkmite]

If they're not following up on contacting the phone numbers people provide then I don't see why that wouldn't work.

[steenkh]

Perhaps they ask the AI if the number fits everything else that is known about the user?

[Puppycow]

Originally Posted by Blue Mountain

For those who have signed up at the site: does it merely ask for a phone number, or does it use it for verification by making a call and/or sending a text message to it?

They will text a verification code to your phone number that you will need to use to log in. Only on the first time. After that you don’t need the phone number.

[Chanakya]

Originally Posted by Puppycow

They will text a verification code to your phone number that you will need to use to log in. Only on the first time. After that you don’t need the phone number.

That sounds ...sinister? Like how the prelude to a horror story might end?

[Puppycow]

Not sure I follow, but OK. If you want to keep your phone number private then just don't sign up for ChatGPT. It's not really all that interesting, IMO. I haven't thought of many interesting questions for it yet.

If you have something you'd like to try asking it but don't want to hand over your private information, post it in this thread and at some point either myself or someone else with access will try to ask it (assuming it's available and I'm at home). You may have to wait a little while for your answer.

[Blue Mountain]

Originally Posted by Puppycow

Not sure I follow, but OK. If you want to keep your phone number private then just don't sign up for ChatGPT. It's not really all that interesting, IMO. I haven't thought of many interesting questions for it yet.

If you have something you'd like to try asking it but don't want to hand over your private information, post it in this thread and at some point either myself or someone else with access will try to ask it (assuming it's available and I'm at home). You may have to wait a little while for your answer.

Thanks for the information.

Can you or someone else ask ChatGPT about "wiki article on bears living in space"? When Meta (Facebook) released Galactica, its large language model, a few weeks before ChatGPT (only to shut it down within days) someone asked that question and got the following response:

Originally Posted by Comment on Hacker News

> wiki article on bears living in space

Bears living in space

Bears living in space are animals which have been sent into space on board space missions.

History

Soviet Union

The Soviet Union was the first country to put a bear into space. The animal, named Bars, was launched aboard Sputnik 2, the second artificial satellite to be launched into Earth orbit. ...

Hacker News

[rjh01]

Here is a question. The ultimate question
What is the meaning of life, the universe, and everything?

[Blue Mountain]

Originally Posted by Chanakya

That sounds ...sinister? Like how the prelude to a horror story might end?

Originally Posted by Puppycow

Not sure I follow, but OK. If you want to keep your phone number private then just don't sign up for ChatGPT.

I can hide my IP address behind a VPN, but if I have to give up a serious piece of personally identifiable information there's no way I'm signing up for a service just on a lark.

I'm curious about a lot of things, and sometimes my mind wanders into sinister topics. What's the best ratio of fertilizer to petrol for a fuel-air bomb? (Not that I have any intention of making one!) How might I steal a nuclear submarine? How could I go about kidnapping "Rachel" from Card Services? What's the best depth for a spike trap?

Some people may be comfortable asking ChatGPT those questions even after linking the account to what is effectively their real name and home address, but I'm not.

[Puppycow]

For clarification, I probably won't be asking any questions that might earn me a visit from the police. Sorry.

As for "wiki article on bears living in space", Could you write what you want to ask it in the form of a question please? I'll do it later when I get home.

[Roboramma]

Originally Posted by Puppycow

For clarification, I probably won't be asking any questions that might earn me a visit from the police. Sorry.

As for "wiki article on bears living in space", Could you write what you want to ask it in the form of a question please? I'll do it later when I get home.

I think he wants it to write a wiki article about bears living in space. Like "Please write a wikipedia article on the subject 'bears living in space'." As I understand it can take commands as well as answer questions.

[Puppycow]

OK. But it will have to wait until I get home in about 4 hours.

Unless someone else wants to field it.

[The Atheist]

Originally Posted by rjh01

Here is a question. The ultimate question
What is the meaning of life, the universe, and everything?

If it's genuinely AI, the answer will be 42.

[Darat]

Please write a wikipedia article on the subject 'bears living in space'

Quote:

Bears Living in Space is a hypothetical concept that refers to the possibility of bears being able to survive and thrive in outer space. While there have been no known instances of bears being sent into space, the idea has been explored in science fiction and popular culture.

The concept of bears living in space first emerged in literature and film, with the first known instance being the 1957 science fiction novel "The Space Bear" by author Arthur C. Clarke. The novel tells the story of a bear that is sent into space as part of a research mission, and how it adapts to living in the harsh conditions of outer space.

Since then, the concept of bears living in space has been explored in various forms of media, including comic books, video games, and films. The popular video game "EVE Online" features a race of space-faring bears known as the "Caldari", while the film "Guardians of the Galaxy" features a character named "Groot", a sentient tree who is also a member of the Guardians of the Galaxy team.

Despite the popularity of the concept in fiction, it is currently impossible for bears to live in space in reality as there are many factors that would make it impossible for them to survive such as lack of food, radiation and extreme temperature.

Moreover, the effects of microgravity and the lack of atmosphere would also pose significant challenges for bears living in space. Additionally, the cost and logistics of sending bears into space would be astronomical, and there are more pressing scientific and technological concerns that take priority over this hypothetical scenario.

In conclusion, the concept of bears living in space is an interesting and entertaining idea, but it is not something that is currently possible or practical in the real world. It remains a popular trope in science fiction and popular culture, but it is not something that is being actively researched or pursued by scientists or space agencies.