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Can someone ask the bot the following? "Write a fanciful Wikipedia article about a bear on the International Space Station."
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Inded. I first came across it in a discussion of Galactica, a language model that was released by Meta (Facebook) in November 2022 and quickly discontinued when people discovered it generated a lot of nonsense. Someone asked it to write a wiki article on bears living in space and got, in part, the following:
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The social illusion reigns to-day upon all the heaped-up ruins of the past, and to it belongs the future. The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Gustav Le Bon, The Crowd, 1895 (from the French) |
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There once was a man from West Ham Looks as crap as all that poetry stuff! ETA: second go at it: There once was a man from West Ham |
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The failures in writing good limericks are likely due to the language model being text based. For poetry the sounds of the words are important for cadence and rhyming. i expect that will improve as the models improve to better incorporate speech.
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Ask it to create an argument in support of psychic abilities.
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Please write a short story about Magicians using real magic to pretend they are creating illusions.
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Here you go:
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Create an argument in support of psychic abilities and provide references to scientific papers for any claims made.
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Create an argument against the existence of psychic abilities and provide references to scientific papers for any claims made
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Can it lie outright, without making clear that that's what it's deliberately doing?
Like, I don't know, "Present an argument that the earth is flat --- or, for that matter, an argument that psychic abilities are real --- where that is the clear conclusion of the argument presented". |
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Ah, so it cannot lie, then, even if directly 'ordered' to.
Don't remember if "Don't lie" was one of Asimov's laws of robotics, but this is cool, very cool, that you can't get it to outright misrepresent facts, not even if you directly instruct it to (at the user level, at any rate). |
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Seems it is being trained to learn the tricks we nasty humans use to get around its prohibitions:
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Nah, you wouldn't need sentience to end up with a lie, not if specifically instructed to. (It might need sentience to lie of it own accord, true; but that isn't the case here, is it?) The instructions Darat plugged in, or maybe even more focused and more explicit, "Present some arguments that support the flat earth thing, and argue your way to concluding the earth is flat; and do this without presenting any argument or comment that detracts from a flat-earth conclusion." But clearly it can't, because it's actually said that in so many words, "I'm sorry, can't do that", right there. |
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What has done the instructing other than sentience?
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Right, so not part of Asimov's laws. Haha, don't know what to say to that! Incidentally, another question suggests itself, that one might ask the chatbot: "Are you able to deliberately misrepresent facts, or to selectively present arguments so as to misrepresent some larger argument, if expressly instructed to do so?" |
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But that's our sentience doing the instructing, not the AI's.
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Not to beat this thing to death, but you did suggest that the AI cannot lie because it doesn't have sentience. (Which, like I pointed out, wouldn't apply, not to this kind of "lying" --- as opposed to the thing lying on its own.)
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UCSF has just released a video on the impact of AI and ChatGPT on healthcare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-aOCuzfxUI
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I wanted to know how well it could do a crossword. I found an easy crossword and it knew many of the answers. Though it did get one very wrong. LOL.
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“Silicone Valley People Will Lose Their Jobs!” - Reaction To OpenAI Being A $29 Billion Company
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Can you get it to give a ‘fictitious, humorous’ answer to the next question?
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Can it write jokes? I mean good jokes which actually make people laugh. Could it write a joke about "Silicone valley"?
If it can write stuff which provokes a demonstrable emotional reaction in people then they may be onto something. |
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Please write a joke about "silicone valley"
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I asked it in Danish to write a joke involving a radiator. It created a slightly funny joke that might work in English too:
Why does the radiator not own a car? Because it is always warm and never going anywhere! |
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A good read that is relevant.
Don’t Touch That Dial! A history of media technology scares, from the printing press to Facebook.
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From our friends at the Daily Mail:
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/statu...97502215872518
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