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The Atheist · 12th January 2023, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Mike!

I'm wondering if he wears glasses just to keep from getting punched in the face.

Or has taken a page out of Rebecca Watson's book and thinks they make him look smarter.

wareyin · 12th January 2023, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by The Atheist

Or has taken a page out of Rebecca Watson's book and thinks they make him look smarter.

¿Por qué no los dos... para los dos?

Stacyhs · 12th January 2023, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by wareyin

¿Por qué no los dos... para los dos?

Porque los dos son idiotas.

Skeptic Ginger · 15th January 2023, 01:08 AM

This is when you know Santos is not just a liar, he's a seriously mentally ill liar:

George Santos lying about ice cream for no reason whatsoever*
Actually it's worse than that. He copies another person's answer right to his face.

*Maybe already posted.

varwoche · 15th January 2023, 07:07 AM

The Trump era must have been hugely validating for Santos.

Bob001 · 15th January 2023, 10:00 AM

Santos helped promote massive Ponzi scheme.

Quote:

In July 2020, a small Florida-based investment firm announced that a man named George Devolder had been hired as its New York regional director. “When we had the opportunity to welcome him to our team, I was delighted,” the company’s founder and chief executive said in a news release. “He’s a perfect fit.”

Devolder is now better known as George Santos, the 34-year-old freshman Republican congressman from New York’s 3rd Congressional District who brazenly lied to voters about key details of his biography. And the company for which he was “a perfect fit,” Harbor City Capital, is no longer in operation. Its assets were frozen in 2021, when the Securities and Exchange Commission accused it of running a “classic Ponzi scheme” that had defrauded investors of millions of dollars.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...-city-capital/

It's pretty clear from his interviews that there's something seriously wrong with this guy, beyond just "embellishing." He reminds me of that SNL character who was always lying about everything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV85E2S-Idw [starts with fake commercial]

Skeptic Ginger · 15th January 2023, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Bob001

...

It's pretty clear from his interviews that there's something seriously wrong with this guy, beyond just "embellishing." He reminds me of that SNL character who was always lying about everything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV85E2S-Idw [starts with fake commercial]

I remember that character.

Foster Zygote · 15th January 2023, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

Santos helped promote massive Ponzi scheme.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...-city-capital/

It's pretty clear from his interviews that there's something seriously wrong with this guy, beyond just "embellishing." He reminds me of that SNL character who was always lying about everything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV85E2S-Idw [starts with fake commercial]

"National Enqui-geographic."

Norman Alexander · 15th January 2023, 02:13 PM

Who will take bets that Santos flits the USA soon?

novaphile · 15th January 2023, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Who will take bets that Santos flits the USA soon?

Going to live on 'Love Island' with the orange buffoon?

Bob001 · 15th January 2023, 02:39 PM

CNN just ran an interview clip where Santos claimed to be a star of the volleyball team at Baruch, which he said he attended on a full volleyball scholarship, and played so vigorously that he got two new knees. And James Carville says he hopes Santos won't resign because the Repubs will have to answer for him every day for the next two years.

Stacyhs · 15th January 2023, 04:38 PM

I want to see Santos' birth certificate.
Being such a pathological liar, the chances are he's the bastard child of Donald J. Trump.

mgidm86 · 15th January 2023, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

CNN just ran an interview clip where Santos claimed to be a star of the volleyball team at Baruch, which he said he attended on a full volleyball scholarship, and played so vigorously that he got two new knees. And James Carville says he hopes Santos won't resign because the Repubs will have to answer for him every day for the next two years.

Answer for what? They obviously don't care how they look. He still gets to vote and do things for those two years. The country is better off without him, period.

Two new knees by 34 years of age? Tell me another one. Someone probably hit them with a lead pipe.

Ladewig · 15th January 2023, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Who will take bets that Santos flits the USA soon?

Why?
He’s having a grand old time.

If shame, embarrassment, and a sense of right and wrong are removed from one’s personality then lying becomes a most natural and pleasant thing.

I just hope that the medical community names this condition Trump’s disorder.

mgidm86 · 15th January 2023, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

Why?
He’s having a grand old time.

If shame, embarrassment, and a sense of right and wrong are removed from one’s personality then lying becomes a most natural and pleasant thing.

I just hope that the medical community names this condition Trump’s disorder.

He probably doesn't understand all the fuss. Is he lying to his husband about being gay? Did he lie to his wife about it?

Someone mentioned SNL. This whole country is one big skit, or I wish it were.

ETA
Random curiosity: are you really going to wait that long to change your Avatar?

Stacyhs · 15th January 2023, 05:38 PM

The GOP will keep Santos as long as he's useful, i.e. as long as they need his vote which is the next two years. Remember, being a glaringly pathological liar is not a negative to the GOP.

Ladewig · 15th January 2023, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by mgidm86

ETA
Random curiosity: are you really going to wait that long to change your Avatar?

I lost an avatar bet.

I may change the number of years remaining, but it’ll pretty much stay the same for the rest of my natural life.

Norman Alexander · 15th January 2023, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by novaphile

Going to live on 'Love Island' with the orange buffoon?

MUST
SCRUB
BRAIN

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

The GOP will keep Santos as long as he's useful, i.e. as long as they need his vote which is the next two years. Remember, being a glaringly pathological liar is not a negative to the GOP.

That's my impression. Useful idiot. I am going to imagine that they will keep him away from committees and any important meetings, in order to prevent him blabbing stuff inadvertently out loud amongst his fantasy life movie. Just make him sit out in the corridor or something. Go play with himself in the break room.

rdaneel · 15th January 2023, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

MUST
SCRUB
BRAIN

That's my impression. Useful idiot. I am going to imagine that they will keep him away from committees and any important meetings, in order to prevent him blabbing stuff inadvertently out loud amongst his fantasy life movie. Just make him sit out in the corridor or something. Go play with himself in the break room.

Tell him he's on a special committee so important, it only has the one, best, person on it, involving secrets so big, nobody can talk about them.

Norman Alexander · 15th January 2023, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by rdaneel

Tell him he's on a special committee so important, it only has the one, best, person on it, involving secrets so big, nobody can talk about them.

Actually, make him the Brazilian ambassador, and send him to say hello to Lula in Brasilia ASAP.

welshdean · 15th January 2023, 11:20 PM

We have a comedy character in an adult comic Viz in the UK that reminds me of Santos

Aldridge Prior - The hopeless liar

Stacyhs · 16th January 2023, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by welshdean

We have a comedy character in an adult comic Viz in the UK that reminds me of Santos

Aldridge Prior - The hopeless liar

We have a comedy character that's a pathological liar, too. Only he was elected President in 2016. Oh...and in 2020!

Chris_Halkides · 16th January 2023, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Chris_Halkides

Vox reported, "But most importantly, we don’t know where Santos’s money comes from. The Representative-elect loaned his own campaign $700,000 during the 2022 cycle and claimed an income of $750,000. He also listed millions of dollars in assets including an apartment in Rio De Janeiro worth up to $1 million and a seven-figure savings account. It’s a major shift in fortune for someone who was evicted twice, in 2015 and 2017, for failing to pay rent and had been taken to court for not paying debts. Even in 2020, he reported income in only one category — compensation in excess of $5,000 paid by one source — with no other assets." hmm...

George Santos has sometimes called himself George Devolder and Anthony Devolder. It has been alleged that he stole from his roommates, including at least one scarf and one shirt (this may have been before he learned about Ross Dress for Less, a discount clothing store, near his Florida office). Yet the $700,000 question is where did the $700,000 come from. I don't know, but I thought that this CBS story was interesting.

"A controversial donor, who along with his apparent domestic partner gave a combined $34,500 to Santos, is Andrew Intrater, the CEO of a company which once had ties to a sanctioned Russian oligarch Intrater is the CEO of Sparrow Capital — an investment firm formerly known as Columbus Nova...Santos claimed to have earned $750,000 in annual salary for the period between January 2021 and December 2022, as well as millions in dividends from his company, Devolder Organization LLC."

Darat · 16th January 2023, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

We have a ~~comedy~~ reality TV character that's a pathological liar, too. Only he was elected President in 2016. Oh...and in 2020!

FTFY - he isn't a comedy character!

smartcooky · 16th January 2023, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Chris_Halkides

George Santos has sometimes called himself George Devolder and Anthony Devolder. It has been alleged that he stole from his roommates, including at least one scarf and one shirt (this may have been before he learned about Ross Dress for Less, a discount clothing store, near his Florida office). Yet the $700,000 question is where did the $700,000 come from. I don't know, but I thought that this CBS story was interesting.

"A controversial donor, who along with his apparent domestic partner gave a combined $34,500 to Santos, is Andrew Intrater, the CEO of a company which once had ties to a sanctioned Russian oligarch Intrater is the CEO of Sparrow Capital — an investment firm formerly known as Columbus Nova...Santos claimed to have earned $750,000 in annual salary for the period between January 2021 and December 2022, as well as millions in dividends from his company, Devolder Organization LLC."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/george...ndrew-intrater

It seems Santos has had considerable business and political ties to Andrew Intrater, an American based cousin of Russian billionaire oligarch Viktor Vekeselberg, who has close links with Putin and former president Medvedev. The US government charges that Vekselberg is a Putin lapdog, and a key player in Russia’s technology sector through his holding company Renova. Meanwhile, Intrater is a big Republican donor who has not just donated thousands of dollars to Santos' campaigns in 2020 and 2022, but also poured money it into a business that the SEC branded a 'Ponzi scheme.

Corrupt, lying, shady businessman turned Republican political candidate gets money from Russia. Sounds awfully familiar

Trebuchet · 16th January 2023, 01:01 PM

I'd been wondering if the money came from Bolsonaro, but Russia sounds more likely.

Norman Alexander · 16th January 2023, 01:09 PM

My only question is why would smart Russian oligarchs invest so heavily in such an outright idiot and loser as Santos to get him into Congress? For the lulz?

Stacyhs · 16th January 2023, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Darat

FTFY - he isn't a comedy character!

I beg to differ! He's made me laugh on many an occasion! Including this one:

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I AGREE

Ladewig · 16th January 2023, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

MUST
SCRUB
BRAIN

That's my impression. Useful idiot. I am going to imagine that they will keep him away from committees and any important meetings, in order to prevent him blabbing stuff inadvertently out loud amongst his fantasy life movie. Just make him sit out in the corridor or something. Go play with himself in the break room.

Why would they need him to not blab party secrets.

Reporter “Rep. Santos said that the party will give a Lear jet to the senator that raises the most dark money. Do you have any comment?”
GOP Chairman: “Oh. Did he say that before or after he claimed to have built the Apollo lunar module? Does anyone have any reality-based questions?”

Ladewig · 16th January 2023, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

My only question is why would smart Russian oligarchs invest so heavily in such an outright idiot and loser as Santos to get him into Congress? For the lulz?

A distraction?

If a Republican scandal is about to break, his handlers could give him a call and tell him to claim that he won the last four Superbowls, that he coined the word Super Bowl, and that he invented the number 7. That would be a major story that would take airtime away from whatever negative story was about to break.

Norman Alexander · 16th January 2023, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

A distraction?

If a Republican scandal is about to break, his handlers could give him a call and tell him to claim that he won the last four Superbowls, that he coined the word Super Bowl, and that he invented the number 7. That would be a major story that would take airtime away from whatever negative story was about to break.

Aren't Gaetz, EmptyG and Boebert supposed to be running interference? Or is their brands of lunacy now too "GOP-mainstream" to be effective?

azazal · 16th January 2023, 07:26 PM

When does Santos peel off the mask to reveal that he's really Sacha Baron Cohen?

welshdean · 16th January 2023, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by azazal

When does Santos peel off the mask to reveal that he's really Sacha Baron Cohen?

And Sacha says, 'I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for them pesky kids.'

gnome · 17th January 2023, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

My only question is why would smart Russian oligarchs invest so heavily in such an outright idiot and loser as Santos to get him into Congress? For the lulz?

Because when he steps out of line to promote their interests, it can be passed of as "he's just crazy, look at his record".

Suddenly · 17th January 2023, 08:24 AM

It's gonna turn out he's really D.B. Cooper Jr. and this will all make sense.

Segnosaur · 17th January 2023, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Why would russians want to get Santos elected?

Quote:

A distraction?

If a Republican scandal is about to break, his handlers could give him a call and tell him to claim that he won the last four Superbowls, that he coined the word Super Bowl, and that he invented the number 7. That would be a major story that would take airtime away from whatever negative story was about to break.

Aren't Gaetz, EmptyG and Boebert supposed to be running interference? Or is their brands of lunacy now too "GOP-mainstream" to be effective?

Either they have become too mainstream, or the Russians don't have enough direct control over them. (They know Gaetz, EmptyG, etc. will be doing dumb things, but they may be doing them on their own schedule, not when the Russians specifically want a distraction.)

Either way, I'm sure to the Russians that having more distractions is better.

Segnosaur · 17th January 2023, 08:36 AM

More and more Santos is looking like a Mini-Trump....

- Past issues with financial fraud in his personal life
- Shady record of personal business practices
- Uses rather obvious lies and does so frequently
- Engaged in Racism
- Pushes claims of 'voter fraud' (not only for Trump but in his own political career)
- Campaign finance issues
- Ties to Russia

It sounds to me like Trump has finally found his running mate for 2024!

Chris_Halkides · 17th January 2023, 08:41 AM

"First, last week, I joined with my colleague and friend Rep. Dan Goldman, of New York's 10th Congressional District, to file an official complaint against Santos with the House Ethics Committee, asking for an investigation into probable violations of both House ethics and campaign finance law. Goldman and I also introduced the “Stopping Another Non-Truthful Office Seeker” — or SANTOS — Act, which aims to require candidates for federal office to tell the truth under oath about their education, military service and employment history. If signed into law, a fraud like Santos could be fined or imprisoned for lying to the public about his qualifications." Link

Suddenly · 17th January 2023, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

My only question is why would smart Russian oligarchs invest so heavily in such an outright idiot and loser as Santos to get him into Congress? For the lulz?

He's a vote and influence. Very reachable and already proven to have no moral compass.

Plus anything that discredits the US political system is a win. This is pretty embarrassing.

Ladewig · 17th January 2023, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Suddenly

He's a vote and influence. Very reachable and already proven to have no moral compass.

Plus anything that discredits the US political system is a win. This is pretty embarrassing.

Plus, he’s not only generating divisiveness between Dems and Reps, he’s also generating divisiveness among Republicans.

The part I don’t understand is why there isn’t a group of Republicans claiming that his claim are true: he was a great volleyball player and he did graduate from that college. They could claim that the lyin’ Democrats are lyin’ because that what liars do.

12th January 2023, 11:27 AM	#201
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 34,492	Originally Posted by Mike! I'm wondering if he wears glasses just to keep from getting punched in the face. Or has taken a page out of Rebecca Watson's book and thinks they make him look smarter.
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15th January 2023, 01:08 AM	#204
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 95,677	This is when you know Santos is not just a liar, he's a seriously mentally ill liar: George Santos lying about ice cream for no reason whatsoever* Actually it's worse than that. He copies another person's answer right to his face. *Maybe already posted.
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15th January 2023, 07:07 AM	#205
varwoche Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 17,217	The Trump era must have been hugely validating for Santos.
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15th January 2023, 11:08 AM	#207
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 95,677	Originally Posted by Bob001 ... It's pretty clear from his interviews that there's something seriously wrong with this guy, beyond just "embellishing." He reminds me of that SNL character who was always lying about everything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV85E2S-Idw [starts with fake commercial] I remember that character.
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15th January 2023, 01:51 PM	#208
Foster Zygote Dental Floss Tycoon Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,271	Originally Posted by Bob001 Santos helped promote massive Ponzi scheme. https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...-city-capital/ It's pretty clear from his interviews that there's something seriously wrong with this guy, beyond just "embellishing." He reminds me of that SNL character who was always lying about everything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV85E2S-Idw [starts with fake commercial] "National Enqui-geographic."
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12th January 2023, 11:34 AM	#202
wareyin Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 11,828	Originally Posted by The Atheist Or has taken a page out of Rebecca Watson's book and thinks they make him look smarter. ¿Por qué no los dos... para los dos?

12th January 2023, 07:31 PM	#203
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 32,229	Originally Posted by wareyin ¿Por qué no los dos... para los dos? Porque los dos son idiotas.

15th January 2023, 10:00 AM	#206
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 16,613	Santos helped promote massive Ponzi scheme. Quote: In July 2020, a small Florida-based investment firm announced that a man named George Devolder had been hired as its New York regional director. “When we had the opportunity to welcome him to our team, I was delighted,” the company’s founder and chief executive said in a news release. “He’s a perfect fit.” Devolder is now better known as George Santos, the 34-year-old freshman Republican congressman from New York’s 3rd Congressional District who brazenly lied to voters about key details of his biography. And the company for which he was “a perfect fit,” Harbor City Capital, is no longer in operation. Its assets were frozen in 2021, when the Securities and Exchange Commission accused it of running a “classic Ponzi scheme” that had defrauded investors of millions of dollars. https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...-city-capital/ It's pretty clear from his interviews that there's something seriously wrong with this guy, beyond just "embellishing." He reminds me of that SNL character who was always lying about everything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV85E2S-Idw [starts with fake commercial]

15th January 2023, 02:13 PM	#209
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 16,174	Who will take bets that Santos flits the USA soon?
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15th January 2023, 02:19 PM	#210
novaphile Quester of Doglets Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sunny South Australia Posts: 6,039	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Who will take bets that Santos flits the USA soon? Going to live on 'Love Island' with the orange buffoon?
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15th January 2023, 02:39 PM	#211
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 16,613	CNN just ran an interview clip where Santos claimed to be a star of the volleyball team at Baruch, which he said he attended on a full volleyball scholarship, and played so vigorously that he got two new knees. And James Carville says he hopes Santos won't resign because the Repubs will have to answer for him every day for the next two years.

15th January 2023, 04:38 PM	#212
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 32,229	I want to see Santos' birth certificate. Being such a pathological liar, the chances are he's the bastard child of Donald J. Trump.

15th January 2023, 04:43 PM	#213
mgidm86 Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,624	Originally Posted by Bob001 CNN just ran an interview clip where Santos claimed to be a star of the volleyball team at Baruch, which he said he attended on a full volleyball scholarship, and played so vigorously that he got two new knees. And James Carville says he hopes Santos won't resign because the Repubs will have to answer for him every day for the next two years. Answer for what? They obviously don't care how they look. He still gets to vote and do things for those two years. The country is better off without him, period. Two new knees by 34 years of age? Tell me another one. Someone probably hit them with a lead pipe.
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15th January 2023, 04:57 PM	#214
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,781	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Who will take bets that Santos flits the USA soon? Why? He’s having a grand old time. If shame, embarrassment, and a sense of right and wrong are removed from one’s personality then lying becomes a most natural and pleasant thing. I just hope that the medical community names this condition Trump’s disorder.
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15th January 2023, 05:04 PM	#215
mgidm86 Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,624	Originally Posted by Ladewig Why? He’s having a grand old time. If shame, embarrassment, and a sense of right and wrong are removed from one’s personality then lying becomes a most natural and pleasant thing. I just hope that the medical community names this condition Trump’s disorder. He probably doesn't understand all the fuss. Is he lying to his husband about being gay? Did he lie to his wife about it? Someone mentioned SNL. This whole country is one big skit, or I wish it were. ETA Random curiosity: are you really going to wait that long to change your Avatar?
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15th January 2023, 05:38 PM	#216
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 32,229	The GOP will keep Santos as long as he's useful, i.e. as long as they need his vote which is the next two years. Remember, being a glaringly pathological liar is not a negative to the GOP.

15th January 2023, 06:42 PM	#217
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,781	Originally Posted by mgidm86 ETA Random curiosity: are you really going to wait that long to change your Avatar? I lost an avatar bet. I may change the number of years remaining, but it’ll pretty much stay the same for the rest of my natural life.
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15th January 2023, 10:30 PM	#218
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 16,174	Originally Posted by novaphile Going to live on 'Love Island' with the orange buffoon? MUST SCRUB BRAIN Originally Posted by Stacyhs The GOP will keep Santos as long as he's useful, i.e. as long as they need his vote which is the next two years. Remember, being a glaringly pathological liar is not a negative to the GOP. That's my impression. Useful idiot. I am going to imagine that they will keep him away from committees and any important meetings, in order to prevent him blabbing stuff inadvertently out loud amongst his fantasy life movie. Just make him sit out in the corridor or something. Go play with himself in the break room.
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15th January 2023, 10:44 PM	#219
rdaneel Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: I'M IN THE PHONEBOOK! I'M SOMEBODY!!! Posts: 4,738	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander MUST SCRUB BRAIN That's my impression. Useful idiot. I am going to imagine that they will keep him away from committees and any important meetings, in order to prevent him blabbing stuff inadvertently out loud amongst his fantasy life movie. Just make him sit out in the corridor or something. Go play with himself in the break room. Tell him he's on a special committee so important, it only has the one, best, person on it, involving secrets so big, nobody can talk about them.
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15th January 2023, 11:13 PM	#220
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 16,174	Originally Posted by rdaneel Tell him he's on a special committee so important, it only has the one, best, person on it, involving secrets so big, nobody can talk about them. Actually, make him the Brazilian ambassador, and send him to say hello to Lula in Brasilia ASAP.
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15th January 2023, 11:20 PM	#221
welshdean Michael McDonald 1967 - 2021 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 4,782	We have a comedy character in an adult comic Viz in the UK that reminds me of Santos Aldridge Prior - The hopeless liar
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16th January 2023, 03:26 AM	#222
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 32,229	Originally Posted by welshdean We have a comedy character in an adult comic Viz in the UK that reminds me of Santos Aldridge Prior - The hopeless liar We have a comedy character that's a pathological liar, too. Only he was elected President in 2016. Oh...and in 2020!

16th January 2023, 07:22 AM	#223
Chris_Halkides Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 11,250	still following the money Originally Posted by Chris_Halkides Vox reported, "But most importantly, we don’t know where Santos’s money comes from. The Representative-elect loaned his own campaign $700,000 during the 2022 cycle and claimed an income of $750,000. He also listed millions of dollars in assets including an apartment in Rio De Janeiro worth up to $1 million and a seven-figure savings account. It’s a major shift in fortune for someone who was evicted twice, in 2015 and 2017, for failing to pay rent and had been taken to court for not paying debts. Even in 2020, he reported income in only one category — compensation in excess of $5,000 paid by one source — with no other assets." hmm... George Santos has sometimes called himself George Devolder and Anthony Devolder. It has been alleged that he stole from his roommates, including at least one scarf and one shirt (this may have been before he learned about Ross Dress for Less, a discount clothing store, near his Florida office). Yet the $700,000 question is where did the $700,000 come from. I don't know, but I thought that this CBS story was interesting. "A controversial donor, who along with his apparent domestic partner gave a combined $34,500 to Santos, is Andrew Intrater, the CEO of a company which once had ties to a sanctioned Russian oligarch Intrater is the CEO of Sparrow Capital — an investment firm formerly known as Columbus Nova...Santos claimed to have earned $750,000 in annual salary for the period between January 2021 and December 2022, as well as millions in dividends from his company, Devolder Organization LLC."
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16th January 2023, 07:25 AM	#224
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 112,597	Originally Posted by Stacyhs We have a ~~comedy~~ *reality TV* character that's a pathological liar, too. Only he was elected President in 2016. Oh...and in 2020! FTFY - he isn't a comedy character!
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16th January 2023, 12:21 PM	#225
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 24,829	... and still following the money... to Russia? Originally Posted by Chris_Halkides George Santos has sometimes called himself George Devolder and Anthony Devolder. It has been alleged that he stole from his roommates, including at least one scarf and one shirt (this may have been before he learned about Ross Dress for Less, a discount clothing store, near his Florida office). Yet the $700,000 question is where did the $700,000 come from. I don't know, but I thought that this CBS story was interesting. "A controversial donor, who along with his apparent domestic partner gave a combined $34,500 to Santos, is Andrew Intrater, the CEO of a company which once had ties to a sanctioned Russian oligarch Intrater is the CEO of Sparrow Capital — an investment firm formerly known as Columbus Nova...Santos claimed to have earned $750,000 in annual salary for the period between January 2021 and December 2022, as well as millions in dividends from his company, Devolder Organization LLC." https://www.thedailybeast.com/george...ndrew-intrater It seems Santos has had considerable business and political ties to Andrew Intrater, an American based cousin of Russian billionaire oligarch Viktor Vekeselberg, who has close links with Putin and former president Medvedev. The US government charges that Vekselberg is a Putin lapdog, and a key player in Russia’s technology sector through his holding company Renova. Meanwhile, Intrater is a big Republican donor who has not just donated thousands of dollars to Santos' campaigns in 2020 and 2022, but also poured money it into a business that the SEC branded a 'Ponzi scheme. Corrupt, lying, shady businessman turned Republican political candidate gets money from Russia. Sounds awfully familiar
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16th January 2023, 01:01 PM	#226
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 38,281	I'd been wondering if the money came from Bolsonaro, but Russia sounds more likely.
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16th January 2023, 01:09 PM	#227
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 16,174	My only question is why would smart Russian oligarchs invest so heavily in such an outright idiot and loser as Santos to get him into Congress? For the lulz?
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16th January 2023, 03:03 PM	#229
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,781	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander MUST SCRUB BRAIN That's my impression. Useful idiot. I am going to imagine that they will keep him away from committees and any important meetings, in order to prevent him blabbing stuff inadvertently out loud amongst his fantasy life movie. Just make him sit out in the corridor or something. Go play with himself in the break room. Why would they need him to not blab party secrets. Reporter “Rep. Santos said that the party will give a Lear jet to the senator that raises the most dark money. Do you have any comment?” GOP Chairman: “Oh. Did he say that before or after he claimed to have built the Apollo lunar module? Does anyone have any reality-based questions?”
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16th January 2023, 03:12 PM	#230
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,781	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander My only question is why would smart Russian oligarchs invest so heavily in such an outright idiot and loser as Santos to get him into Congress? For the lulz? A distraction? If a Republican scandal is about to break, his handlers could give him a call and tell him to claim that he won the last four Superbowls, that he coined the word Super Bowl, and that he invented the number 7. That would be a major story that would take airtime away from whatever negative story was about to break.
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16th January 2023, 07:06 PM	#231
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 16,174	Originally Posted by Ladewig A distraction? If a Republican scandal is about to break, his handlers could give him a call and tell him to claim that he won the last four Superbowls, that he coined the word Super Bowl, and that he invented the number 7. That would be a major story that would take airtime away from whatever negative story was about to break. Aren't Gaetz, EmptyG and Boebert supposed to be running interference? Or is their brands of lunacy now too "GOP-mainstream" to be effective?
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16th January 2023, 07:26 PM	#232
azazal Ninja Wave: Techno Ninja Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 469	When does Santos peel off the mask to reveal that he's really Sacha Baron Cohen?
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16th January 2023, 08:14 PM	#233
welshdean Michael McDonald 1967 - 2021 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 4,782	Originally Posted by azazal When does Santos peel off the mask to reveal that he's really Sacha Baron Cohen? And Sacha says, 'I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for them pesky kids.'
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17th January 2023, 08:19 AM	#234
gnome Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,493	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander My only question is why would smart Russian oligarchs invest so heavily in such an outright idiot and loser as Santos to get him into Congress? For the lulz? Because when he steps out of line to promote their interests, it can be passed of as "he's just crazy, look at his record".
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17th January 2023, 08:24 AM	#235
Suddenly No Punting Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Not In Follansbee Posts: 5,749	It's gonna turn out he's really D.B. Cooper Jr. and this will all make sense.

17th January 2023, 08:29 AM	#236
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 20,474	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Why would russians want to get Santos elected? Quote: A distraction? If a Republican scandal is about to break, his handlers could give him a call and tell him to claim that he won the last four Superbowls, that he coined the word Super Bowl, and that he invented the number 7. That would be a major story that would take airtime away from whatever negative story was about to break. Aren't Gaetz, EmptyG and Boebert supposed to be running interference? Or is their brands of lunacy now too "GOP-mainstream" to be effective? Either they have become too mainstream, or the Russians don't have enough direct control over them. (They know Gaetz, EmptyG, etc. will be doing dumb things, but they may be doing them on their own schedule, not when the Russians specifically want a distraction.) Either way, I'm sure to the Russians that having more distractions is better.
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