George Santos charged with defrauding campaign donors - Page 8

Gord_in_Toronto · 19th January 2023, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by Venom

George Washington: "I cannot tell a lie"
George Santos: "I cannot tell the truth"

House Republicans: "I cannot tell the difference!"

catsmate · 19th January 2023, 12:06 PM

So, was he a drag performer? Would that be enough for the Republicans to drop him?

Norman Alexander · 19th January 2023, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by catsmate

So, was he a drag performer? Would that be enough for the Republicans to drop him?

They still keep EmptyG. So of course not.

Stacyhs · 19th January 2023, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by catsmate

So, was he a drag performer? Would that be enough for the Republicans to drop him?

Maybe they'll put him on the Grooming Committee.

Stacyhs · 19th January 2023, 06:03 PM

Lots of people don't care if Santos lies about his history, but scam a homeless veteran who had lost his job out of the money raised to save his dog's life? That is a hanging offense in a lot of people's view...including mine. Don't mess with dog lovers.

Norman Alexander · 19th January 2023, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

OK, then!

I was looking at this previously and trying to figure out why it seemed somehow..."wrong". I think I have spotted it: The lenses in his spectacles are not prescription. They have little no distortion, so they are plain glass. These look to be "show" spectacles only, not really necessary.

So those posters above who said he has taken to wearing specs to look "intellectual"? You are quite right!

acbytesla · 19th January 2023, 06:28 PM

Have you seen the pictures of George Santos in drag? It sure looks like him.

Stacyhs · 19th January 2023, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

Have you seen the pictures of George Santos in drag? It sure looks like him.

Yes, but I'm withholding judgment on that. I don't think a grainy picture is enough to determine if that's Santos or not.

acbytesla · 19th January 2023, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Yes, but I'm withholding judgment on that. I don't think a grainy picture is enough to determine if that's Santos or not.

Doesn't look grainy to me. Still, that could be his doppelganger.

I so much want it to be him. I wouldn't care if it was other than the fact it's another lie. He's denying it is him.

Stacyhs · 19th January 2023, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

Doesn't look grainy to me. Still, that could be his doppelganger.

I so much want it to be him. I wouldn't care if it was other than the fact it's another lie. He's denying it is him.

Looks very grainy to me:

acbytesla · 19th January 2023, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Looks very grainy to me:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...9f236ba245.jpg

I never saw that picture. There are others much sharper and closer up.

Skeptic Ginger · 19th January 2023, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Yes, but I'm withholding judgment on that. I don't think a grainy picture is enough to determine if that's Santos or not.

I agree. And as I noted the drag queen isn't thick enough in the middle to add any certainty to the claim.

Skeptic Ginger · 19th January 2023, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

I never saw that picture. There are others much sharper and closer up.

Got a link? Because grainy are the only images I saw.

ZiprHead · 19th January 2023, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Got a link? Because grainy are the only images I saw.

Here.

pgwenthold · 19th January 2023, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Yes, but I'm withholding judgment on that. I don't think a grainy picture is enough to determine if that's Santos or not.

Grainy? Or Granny?

Chris_Halkides · 19th January 2023, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Suddenly

It's gonna turn out he's really D.B. Cooper Jr. and this will all make sense.

More like Tommy Flanagan.

gabeygoat · 19th January 2023, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Venom

George Washington: "I cannot tell a lie"
George Santos: "I cannot tell the truth"

House Republicans: "I cannot tell the difference!"

can I share this?

Lurch · 19th January 2023, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

I was looking at this previously and trying to figure out why it seemed somehow..."wrong". I think I have spotted it: The lenses in his spectacles are not prescription. They have little no distortion, so they are plain glass. These look to be "show" spectacles only, not really necessary.

So those posters above who said he has taken to wearing specs to look "intellectual"? You are quite right!

It can be hard to discern optical power where minor correction for myopia or presbyopia is present. And even harder if the correction is only for astigmatism.

Not everyone requires the proverbial coke bottle bottoms. 😀

gabeygoat · 19th January 2023, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by catsmate

So, was he a drag performer? Would that be enough for the Republicans to drop him?

only if he reads to children

dann · 20th January 2023, 03:29 AM

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dann · 20th January 2023, 03:41 AM

George Santos Brain Tumor and COVID-19 Claims Questioned.
Not to mention the three times he had AIDS.

Mongrel · 20th January 2023, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

I was looking at this previously and trying to figure out why it seemed somehow..."wrong". I think I have spotted it: The lenses in his spectacles are not prescription. They have little no distortion, so they are plain glass. These look to be "show" spectacles only, not really necessary.

So those posters above who said he has taken to wearing specs to look "intellectual"? You are quite right!

Diagree, there's a small distortion on the bottom of his right lens and a slight curve to it, all of the non-prescription lenses I've seen are flat

Darat · 20th January 2023, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by dann

George Santos Brain Tumor and COVID-19 Claims Questioned.
Not to mention the three times he had AIDS.

It's beyond belief. I suppose that phrase describes him as well.

JoeMorgue · 20th January 2023, 06:42 AM

I'm just going on the so far universal standard that literally everything Republicans pretend to be scared of / worried about is a confession.

He's a Republican. He hates drag queens. That's enough to empirically predict he was a drag queen even without any photo evidence.

And yeah I'm only a little joking.

Bob001 · 20th January 2023, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by dann

George Santos Brain Tumor and COVID-19 Claims Questioned.
Not to mention the three times he had AIDS.

I thought this was going to be something from the Onion. But apparently it's real.

Quote:

“Unfortunately on the 9th of March I became symptomatic with what we all know now very well, COVID-19 a.k.a coronavirus, commonly known as the Chinese flu,” he said, with a wry giggle. “On the 11th I ended up in the hospital. It was really bad, fever, body aches.”

Santos was in particular danger from COVID-19, he explained, because of other serious health issues.

“I have an immunodeficiency and I have acute chronic bronchitis. I also battled a brain tumor a couple of years ago, and I had radiation done, which really lowers your immunity in general,” he told the podcast hosts. “Radiation isn’t a game. I’m susceptible to cancer. It’s in my DNA.”
.....
On March 14, 2020, the day that Santos originally said he received his own positive test for coronavirus and was bedridden with fever, his campaign tweeted a press release on the unfolding COVID-19 crisis including a lengthy quote from Santos, and praising then-President Donald Trump’s declaration of a national emergency. The tweet made no mention of Santos’ own illness.

On March 18, 2020, four days after he originally claimed he had received a positive test and was very sick with COVID, Santos appeared on Fox Business, showing no signs of illness. However, during a COVID town hall that Santos hosted in April 2020, he said that he was still symptomatic through March 18.

This isn't just lying. This is genuine lunacy.

slyjoe · 20th January 2023, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by Bob001

I thought this was going to be something from the Onion. But apparently it's real.

This isn't just lying. This is genuine lunacy.

Isn't immunodeficiency from radiation temporary?

JoeMorgue · 20th January 2023, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by Bob001

This isn't just lying. This is genuine lunacy.

Welcome to the Post-Fact world.

Darat · 20th January 2023, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Bob001

I thought this was going to be something from the Onion. But apparently it's real.

This isn't just lying. This is genuine lunacy.

Or he is simply doing what he has seen worked for others with political ambition.

JoeMorgue · 20th January 2023, 08:22 AM

Yeah seriously.

If you want to run for office why WOULDN'T you just lie horrible lies about the stupidest thing you can think of?

newyorkguy · 20th January 2023, 08:23 AM

The Daily Beast reports that Santos appeared on a local conservative podcast in late March 2020 and gave a harrowing account of his bout with Covid19.

Quote:

Santos said he was taken to Elmhurst Hospital in Queens by ambulance, placed on a gurney on arrival, and spent around five hours in a “plastic bubble” with an “air filter” as the hospital had run out of isolation rooms. He said he was given a chest X-ray, which came back clear. Santos said he was then swabbed for COVID-19, and on March 14 he received a positive result. He said he spent days with a high fever, hallucinating and confused. Daily Beast link

Six months later his recall of events had changed considerably.

Quote:

In a September 2020 interview with local outlet The Island Now, Santos said Elmhurst Hospital provided him with no treatment other than recommending Advil for his fever.

I agree with the Long Island GOP leader who said the other day, when you lie like this it's not just fibbing, it's evidence of some underlying mental or emotional health disorder.

Hercules56 · 20th January 2023, 09:03 AM

So in another forum full of mostly right-wing gun owners, most folks think Santos should stick around and NOT be expelled, since "the Democrats also lie about their background".

Figures.

Suddenly · 20th January 2023, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Hercules56

So in another forum full of mostly right-wing gun owners, most folks think Santos should stick around and NOT be expelled, since "the Democrats also lie about their background".

Figures.

Absent misbehavior while in office, evidence he's a foreign agent or something actively serious he shouldn't be expelled. That a district was foolish enough to elect him is what it is.

Beelzebuddy · 20th January 2023, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Suddenly

Absent misbehavior while in office, evidence he's a foreign agent or something actively serious he shouldn't be expelled. That a district was foolish enough to elect him is what it is.

But given evidence that he's committed blatant fraud running sham investment schemes, he should be prosecuted for such, congressman or no. The new trend of being legally immune to everything once things become even remotely political (Gaetz) has to stop.

ETA: also Jordan.

Actually I'm just going to list all the Republican congress critters who I believe haven't been criming:

Norman Alexander · 20th January 2023, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Lurch

It can be hard to discern optical power where minor correction for myopia or presbyopia is present. And even harder if the correction is only for astigmatism.

Not everyone requires the proverbial coke bottle bottoms. 😀

Agreed. But this photo is at an angle to the spectacle lens. And even the slightest magnifications will create a misalignment effect. Easiest way to tell is if the outline of the face outside the spectacles does not line up with the outline inside the spectacles. In this case, they align almost perfectly, so the lens has no magnification - it is flat glass. The only "operational" part of these specs is the thick frame to make him look more "brainy" or something.

Originally Posted by Mongrel

Disagree, there's a small distortion on the bottom of his right lens and a slight curve to it, all of the non-prescription lenses I've seen are flat

Not seeing it in this pic... Maybe I need to get my own specs checked??

ZirconBlue · 20th January 2023, 11:16 AM

This all reminds me of a Norm Macdonald bit:

Quote:

You ever lie for no reason at all? Just all of sudden, a big lie spills out of your evil head. Like a guy will come up to you, "Hey, did you ever see that movie with Meryl Streep and a horse?" And you go, "Yes." In the back of your head, you're like, "What in the hell am I lying about over here? I stand to gain nothing by this lie."

Suddenly · 20th January 2023, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy

But given evidence that he's committed blatant fraud running sham investment schemes, he should be prosecuted for such, congressman or no. The new trend of being legally immune to everything once things become even remotely political (Gaetz) has to stop.

ETA: also Jordan.

Actually I'm just going to list all the Republican congress critters who I believe haven't been criming:

Being criminally immune is a whole different story from expelling an elected representative. Charge them with crimes, fine. Throw them in jail, fine.

However, that district elected him and I'm never going to be in favor of expelling someone from Congress based on allegations or even convictions for past criminal behavior.

jadebox · 20th January 2023, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Suddenly

However, that district elected him and I'm never going to be in favor of expelling someone from Congress based on allegations or even convictions for past criminal behavior.

He isn't at all the person the voters thought he was. That district didn't elect him.

Suddenly · 20th January 2023, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by jadebox

He isn't at all the person the voters thought he was. That district didn't elect him.

This is unknowable.

Even if true they have an absolute right to be recklessly negligent in their voting. A local paper broke this scandal before the election. It was a GOP leaning paper that reluctantly endorsed the Democrat.

https://www.longisland.com/news/12-3...onths-ago.html

We can't go challenging the validity of elections based on the electorate maybe being asleep at the switch.

Hercules56 · 20th January 2023, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Suddenly

Absent misbehavior while in office, evidence he's a foreign agent or something actively serious he shouldn't be expelled. That a district was foolish enough to elect him is what it is.

He made believe he was someone that he is not. He did not allow his voters to know who he actually was on Election Day. That's grounds for expulsion.

Bob001 · 20th January 2023, 12:32 PM

A reporter writes his own autobiography, Santos-style:

Quote:

My flight was in its final descent into Long Island MacArthur Airport, the world’s busiest. From the first-class cabin of my Southwest Airlines flight, I could see, to the north, the great mountains of Long Island’s North Shore, where I trained before winning gold in the giant slalom in Lillehammer. To the south, I could see the beaches where I caught the Great White that inspired the movie “Jaws.”
......

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...e-republicans/

19th January 2023, 08:16 AM	#281
Gord_in_Toronto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 24,424	Originally Posted by Venom George Washington: "I cannot tell a lie" George Santos: "I cannot tell the truth" House Republicans: "I cannot tell the difference!"
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19th January 2023, 12:06 PM	#282
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 29,785	So, was he a drag performer? Would that be enough for the Republicans to drop him?
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19th January 2023, 12:50 PM	#283
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 16,174	Originally Posted by catsmate So, was he a drag performer? Would that be enough for the Republicans to drop him? They still keep EmptyG. So of course not.
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19th January 2023, 06:18 PM	#286
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 16,174	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander OK, then! I was looking at this previously and trying to figure out why it seemed somehow..."wrong". I think I have spotted it: The lenses in his spectacles are not prescription. They have little no distortion, so they are plain glass. These look to be "show" spectacles only, not really necessary. So those posters above who said he has taken to wearing specs to look "intellectual"? You are quite right!
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19th January 2023, 06:28 PM	#287
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 32,881	Have you seen the pictures of George Santos in drag? It sure looks like him.
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19th January 2023, 01:02 PM	#284
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 32,229	Originally Posted by catsmate So, was he a drag performer? Would that be enough for the Republicans to drop him? Maybe they'll put him on the Grooming Committee.

19th January 2023, 06:03 PM	#285
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 32,229	Lots of people don't care if Santos lies about his history, but scam a homeless veteran who had lost his job out of the money raised to save his dog's life? That is a hanging offense in a lot of people's view...including mine. Don't mess with dog lovers.

19th January 2023, 06:37 PM	#288
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 32,229	Originally Posted by acbytesla Have you seen the pictures of George Santos in drag? It sure looks like him. Yes, but I'm withholding judgment on that. I don't think a grainy picture is enough to determine if that's Santos or not.

19th January 2023, 06:41 PM	#289
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 32,881	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Yes, but I'm withholding judgment on that. I don't think a grainy picture is enough to determine if that's Santos or not. Doesn't look grainy to me. Still, that could be his doppelganger. I so much want it to be him. I wouldn't care if it was other than the fact it's another lie. He's denying it is him.
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19th January 2023, 06:45 PM	#290
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 32,229	Originally Posted by acbytesla Doesn't look grainy to me. Still, that could be his doppelganger. I so much want it to be him. I wouldn't care if it was other than the fact it's another lie. He's denying it is him. Looks very grainy to me:

19th January 2023, 06:58 PM	#291
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 32,881	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Looks very grainy to me: http://www.internationalskeptics.com...9f236ba245.jpg I never saw that picture. There are others much sharper and closer up.
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19th January 2023, 07:25 PM	#292
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 95,677	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Yes, but I'm withholding judgment on that. I don't think a grainy picture is enough to determine if that's Santos or not. I agree. And as I noted the drag queen isn't thick enough in the middle to add any certainty to the claim.

19th January 2023, 07:26 PM	#293
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 95,677	Originally Posted by acbytesla I never saw that picture. There are others much sharper and closer up. Got a link? Because grainy are the only images I saw.

19th January 2023, 07:57 PM	#294
ZiprHead Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sag-Nasty Posts: 1,103	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Got a link? Because grainy are the only images I saw. Here.
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19th January 2023, 08:16 PM	#295
pgwenthold Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 21,307	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Yes, but I'm withholding judgment on that. I don't think a grainy picture is enough to determine if that's Santos or not. Grainy? Or Granny?
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19th January 2023, 08:49 PM	#296
Chris_Halkides Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 11,250	my best guess Originally Posted by Suddenly It's gonna turn out he's really D.B. Cooper Jr. and this will all make sense. More like Tommy Flanagan.
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19th January 2023, 10:59 PM	#297
gabeygoat Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hard Corvallis Oregon Posts: 1,746	Originally Posted by Venom George Washington: "I cannot tell a lie" George Santos: "I cannot tell the truth" House Republicans: "I cannot tell the difference!" can I share this?
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19th January 2023, 11:28 PM	#298
Lurch Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,515	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander I was looking at this previously and trying to figure out why it seemed somehow..."wrong". I think I have spotted it: The lenses in his spectacles are not prescription. They have little no distortion, so they are plain glass. These look to be "show" spectacles only, not really necessary. So those posters above who said he has taken to wearing specs to look "intellectual"? You are quite right! It can be hard to discern optical power where minor correction for myopia or presbyopia is present. And even harder if the correction is only for astigmatism. Not everyone requires the proverbial coke bottle bottoms. 😀

19th January 2023, 11:28 PM	#299
gabeygoat Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hard Corvallis Oregon Posts: 1,746	Originally Posted by catsmate So, was he a drag performer? Would that be enough for the Republicans to drop him? only if he reads to children
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20th January 2023, 03:41 AM	#301
dann Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,223	George Santos Brain Tumor and COVID-19 Claims Questioned. Not to mention the three times he had AIDS.
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20th January 2023, 04:49 AM	#302
Mongrel Begging for Scraps Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK, suburbia. 20 minutes in the future Posts: 2,264	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander I was looking at this previously and trying to figure out why it seemed somehow..."wrong". I think I have spotted it: The lenses in his spectacles are not prescription. They have little no distortion, so they are plain glass. These look to be "show" spectacles only, not really necessary. So those posters above who said he has taken to wearing specs to look "intellectual"? You are quite right! Diagree, there's a small distortion on the bottom of his right lens and a slight curve to it, all of the non-prescription lenses I've seen are flat
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20th January 2023, 04:56 AM	#303
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 112,596	Originally Posted by dann George Santos Brain Tumor and COVID-19 Claims Questioned. Not to mention the three times he had AIDS. It's beyond belief. I suppose that phrase describes him as well.
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20th January 2023, 06:42 AM	#304
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 46,102	I'm just going on the so far universal standard that literally everything Republicans pretend to be scared of / worried about is a confession. He's a Republican. He hates drag queens. That's enough to empirically predict he was a drag queen even without any photo evidence. And yeah I'm only a little joking.
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20th January 2023, 07:59 AM	#305
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 16,613	Originally Posted by dann George Santos Brain Tumor and COVID-19 Claims Questioned. Not to mention the three times he had AIDS. I thought this was going to be something from the Onion. But apparently it's real. Quote: “Unfortunately on the 9th of March I became symptomatic with what we all know now very well, COVID-19 a.k.a coronavirus, commonly known as the Chinese flu,” he said, with a wry giggle. “On the 11th I ended up in the hospital. It was really bad, fever, body aches.” Santos was in particular danger from COVID-19, he explained, because of other serious health issues. “I have an immunodeficiency and I have acute chronic bronchitis. I also battled a brain tumor a couple of years ago, and I had radiation done, which really lowers your immunity in general,” he told the podcast hosts. “Radiation isn’t a game. I’m susceptible to cancer. It’s in my DNA.” ..... On March 14, 2020, the day that Santos originally said he received his own positive test for coronavirus and was bedridden with fever, his campaign tweeted a press release on the unfolding COVID-19 crisis including a lengthy quote from Santos, and praising then-President Donald Trump’s declaration of a national emergency. The tweet made no mention of Santos’ own illness. On March 18, 2020, four days after he originally claimed he had received a positive test and was very sick with COVID, Santos appeared on Fox Business, showing no signs of illness. However, during a COVID town hall that Santos hosted in April 2020, he said that he was still symptomatic through March 18. This isn't just lying. This is genuine lunacy.

20th January 2023, 08:08 AM	#306
slyjoe Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Near Harmonica Virgins, AZ Posts: 3,634	Originally Posted by Bob001 I thought this was going to be something from the Onion. But apparently it's real. This isn't just lying. This is genuine lunacy. Isn't immunodeficiency from radiation temporary?
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20th January 2023, 08:09 AM	#307
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 46,102	Originally Posted by Bob001 This isn't just lying. This is genuine lunacy. Welcome to the Post-Fact world.
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20th January 2023, 08:19 AM	#308
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 112,596	Originally Posted by Bob001 I thought this was going to be something from the Onion. But apparently it's real. This isn't just lying. This is genuine lunacy. Or he is simply doing what he has seen worked for others with political ambition.
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20th January 2023, 08:22 AM	#309
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 46,102	Yeah seriously. If you want to run for office why WOULDN'T you just lie horrible lies about the stupidest thing you can think of?
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20th January 2023, 08:23 AM	#310
newyorkguy Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NY Posts: 13,432	The Daily Beast reports that Santos appeared on a local conservative podcast in late March 2020 and gave a harrowing account of his bout with Covid19. Quote: Santos said he was taken to Elmhurst Hospital in Queens by ambulance, placed on a gurney on arrival, and spent around five hours in a “plastic bubble” with an “air filter” as the hospital had run out of isolation rooms. He said he was given a chest X-ray, which came back clear. Santos said he was then swabbed for COVID-19, and on March 14 he received a positive result. He said he spent days with a high fever, hallucinating and confused. Daily Beast link Six months later his recall of events had changed considerably. Quote: In a September 2020 interview with local outlet The Island Now, Santos said Elmhurst Hospital provided him with no treatment other than recommending Advil for his fever. I agree with the Long Island GOP leader who said the other day, when you lie like this it's not just fibbing, it's evidence of some underlying mental or emotional health disorder.

20th January 2023, 09:03 AM	#311
Hercules56 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 7,535	So in another forum full of mostly right-wing gun owners, most folks think Santos should stick around and NOT be expelled, since "the Democrats also lie about their background". Figures.
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20th January 2023, 10:22 AM	#312
Suddenly No Punting Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Not In Follansbee Posts: 5,749	Originally Posted by Hercules56 So in another forum full of mostly right-wing gun owners, most folks think Santos should stick around and NOT be expelled, since "the Democrats also lie about their background". Figures. Absent misbehavior while in office, evidence he's a foreign agent or something actively serious he shouldn't be expelled. That a district was foolish enough to elect him is what it is.

20th January 2023, 10:26 AM	#313
Beelzebuddy Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 9,644	Originally Posted by Suddenly Absent misbehavior while in office, evidence he's a foreign agent or something actively serious he shouldn't be expelled. That a district was foolish enough to elect him is what it is. But given evidence that he's committed blatant fraud running sham investment schemes, he should be prosecuted for such, congressman or no. The new trend of being legally immune to everything once things become even remotely political (Gaetz) has to stop. ETA: also Jordan. Actually I'm just going to list all the Republican congress critters who I believe haven't been criming:
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20th January 2023, 10:36 AM	#314
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 16,174	Originally Posted by Lurch It can be hard to discern optical power where minor correction for myopia or presbyopia is present. And even harder if the correction is only for astigmatism. Not everyone requires the proverbial coke bottle bottoms. 😀 Agreed. But this photo is at an angle to the spectacle lens. And even the slightest magnifications will create a misalignment effect. Easiest way to tell is if the outline of the face outside the spectacles does not line up with the outline inside the spectacles. In this case, they align almost perfectly, so the lens has no magnification - it is flat glass. The only "operational" part of these specs is the thick frame to make him look more "brainy" or something. Originally Posted by Mongrel Disagree, there's a small distortion on the bottom of his right lens and a slight curve to it, all of the non-prescription lenses I've seen are flat Not seeing it in this pic... Maybe I need to get my own specs checked??
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20th January 2023, 11:16 AM	#315
ZirconBlue Sole Survivor of L-Town Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lexington, KY, USA, Earth Posts: 15,055	This all reminds me of a Norm Macdonald bit: Quote: You ever lie for no reason at all? Just all of sudden, a big lie spills out of your evil head. Like a guy will come up to you, "Hey, did you ever see that movie with Meryl Streep and a horse?" And you go, "Yes." In the back of your head, you're like, "What in the hell am I lying about over here? I stand to gain nothing by this lie."
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20th January 2023, 11:36 AM	#316
Suddenly No Punting Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Not In Follansbee Posts: 5,749	Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy But given evidence that he's committed blatant fraud running sham investment schemes, he should be prosecuted for such, congressman or no. The new trend of being legally immune to everything once things become even remotely political (Gaetz) has to stop. ETA: also Jordan. Actually I'm just going to list all the Republican congress critters who I believe haven't been criming: Being criminally immune is a whole different story from expelling an elected representative. Charge them with crimes, fine. Throw them in jail, fine. However, that district elected him and I'm never going to be in favor of expelling someone from Congress based on allegations or even convictions for past criminal behavior.