Continuation General UK Politics V Suella Strikes Back

[shemp]

This Cabinet Shuffling is just a desperate attempt to avoid relegation.

[Andy_Ross]

The new Home Secretary says his three objectives are stopping the boats, supporting the police and protecting the citizens of the UK.

So that's alright then.

[Andy_Ross]

Coffey has resigned apparently.

[Darat]

Have they given young Winston the Defence ministry?

[Garrison]

So Sunak has spent the entire time since he became PM trying to persuade the voters to forget the previous Tory leaders and accept him as a fresh start. So now he dredges up Cameron, directly connecting his administration to all those past failures and giving Labour a whole new selection of lines of attack. Perhaps this will give him a few days of better headlines but then everyone will have plenty of time to remember what a dismal failure Cameron was.

[Andy_Ross]

Esther McVey appointed as 'Common Sense Tzar' to to lead the 'anti woke agenda'

[catsmate]

First no confidence letters have gone in to 1922 Committee.

[P.J. Denyer]

Originally Posted by Andy_Ross

Esther McVey appointed as 'Common Sense Tzar' to to lead the 'anti woke agenda'

It's another example of that Orwellian thing of naming things the opposite of what they are, you know like Ministry of Peace, Ministry of Truth, James Cleverly....

[Andy_Ross]

Andrea Jenkins says she has submitted a letter of no confidence.

[GlennB]

Originally Posted by catsmate

First no confidence letters have gone in to 1922 Committee.

Originally Posted by Andy_Ross

Andrea Jenkins says she has submitted a letter of no confidence.

If all a mass of letters did was precipitate another leadership election, then who might be better? If it leads to an early GE then bring it on! Mind, I suppose yet another Tory leader in such a short time just adds to the Tory *********** image, so whatever.

[angrysoba]

Originally Posted by GlennB

If all a mass of letters did was precipitate another leadership election, then who might be better? If it leads to an early GE then bring it on! Mind, I suppose yet another Tory leader in such a short time just adds to the Tory *********** image, so whatever.

Maybe a bunch of lords can now submit their candidacies for the PM role. It could at least be an interesting season of the reality TV show that is UK politics where they finally jump the shark and bring in an ever more ridiculous line-up of hereditary peers with ever longer titles and multiple-barreled names.

[KDLarsen]

The issue of letters was posted as a question to The Guardian's live commentary, and whoever was helming the coverage at the time pointed out that Sunak would have a reasonable idea of the risk of sacking Braverman, provided his whips were paying attention to whatever was going on amongst the backbenchers.

Said reporter also noted that Braverman's base amongst the backbenchers really isn't as big as it's been made out to be.

[Andy_Ross]

On reading the announcement of Esther being appointed as Common Sense Tzar with a brief to tackle the "scourge of wokery" Parody Rishi Sunak Tweeted

Quote:

Oh piss off! How the **** am I supposed to parody that!!?

[Andy_Ross]

I wonder if Esther will give up her GB News presenting job?

[Andy_Ross]

Rishi tweeted

Quote:

Today we have built a united team ready to deliver the changes this country needs for the long term.

Professionalism, integrity and experience – this is a team that will be bold in making the right decisions for our great country, not the easy ones.

[jimbob]

Originally Posted by Garrison

So Sunak has spent the entire time since he became PM trying to persuade the voters to forget the previous Tory leaders and accept him as a fresh start. So now he dredges up Cameron, directly connecting his administration to all those past failures and giving Labour a whole new selection of lines of attack. Perhaps this will give him a few days of better headlines but then everyone will have plenty of time to remember what a dismal failure Cameron was.

He was pretty bad elsewhere as well. Remember how he failed to manage the fuel crisis or Cumbrian floods. If it were fiction, these failures to protect the citizenry in crisis would be a foreshadowing of his party's performance in Covid.

He is also a step up from now.

But as you say, he'll annoy the Brexiteers for having campaigned for Remain, and most who are pro EU for his destructive gamble. Even though it did finally put the question of Europe to bed and unite his party.

[Agatha]

I had to drive to London (from Derbyshire) today for a funeral and it was stunning to hear this crapshow unfold in real time.

How can Call-Me-Dave be held to account by the Commons as a member of the Lords?

[Norman Alexander]

So what is happening with the UK government while this ****-show is happening with the Tories? Anything positive? Constructive? Noteworthy?

[GlennB]

Originally Posted by Agatha

I had to drive to London (from Derbyshire) today for a funeral and it was stunning to hear this crapshow unfold in real time.

How can Call-Me-Dave be held to account by the Commons as a member of the Lords?

I suppose any questions have to be relayed to him, to be answered at a later date by his deputy? But then there are 'urgent questions' or something ...

It's all buggered to buggery. I'm having a drink

[Agatha]

Originally Posted by GlennB

I suppose any questions have to be relayed to him, to be answered at a later date by his deputy? But then there are 'urgent questions' or something ...

It's all buggered to buggery. I'm having a drink

So am I. It's the only way I can make sense of it all.

I can't see any real support for Andrea Jenkyns just yet, but I bet there are some MPs waiting to see which way the wind is blowing before declaring themselves.

[Agatha]

I just looked up the full reshuffle and my MP (used to be a solid labour seat, now he has 13k majority) has been promoted to Minister of Housing. We're doomed.

[catsmate]

As the Brexidot thread seems to have a TEF, here's more good news for UKians.
The Conservatives are going to save you from those intrusive EU chemical regulations!

Called the Alternative Transitional Registration model (ATRm) for UK REACH this will require producers to submit far less information on the registration of substances than for the proper, EU, version of REACH. After all proper safety data might interfere with profits.....

REACH, BTW, is Registration, Evaluation, Authorisation and Restriction of Chemicals, intended to protect the environment and health from potential hazards. The UKian version has already diverged, with new regulations not being enacted in UKia.

[MarkCorrigan]

In the (terrible) movie Blade Trinity, the character of Whistler, upon finding out that the vampire-infiltrated and corrupted police are about to raid his and Blade's base makes preparations. He begins to go around said base setting off self destruct systems and wiping computers to ensure that everything there is utterly destroyed and that the police raiding the place can't get anything useful out of the rubble and mess they're left with.

I'm terribly sorry, I don't know why I brought that up.

[P.J. Denyer]

Originally Posted by MarkCorrigan

In the (terrible) movie Blade Trinity, the character of Whistler, upon finding out that the vampire-infiltrated and corrupted police are about to raid his and Blade's base makes preparations. He begins to go around said base setting off self destruct systems and wiping computers to ensure that everything there is utterly destroyed and that the police raiding the place can't get anything useful out of the rubble and mess they're left with.

I'm terribly sorry, I don't know why I brought that up.

At least it comes with a dose of irony as irl it's the vampires that are wrecking the base.

[wobs]

Originally Posted by catsmate

As the Brexidot thread seems to have a TEF, here's more good news for UKians.
The Conservatives are going to save you from those intrusive EU chemical regulations!

Called the Alternative Transitional Registration model (ATRm) for UK REACH this will require producers to submit far less information on the registration of substances than for the proper, EU, version of REACH. After all proper safety data might interfere with profits.....

REACH, BTW, is Registration, Evaluation, Authorisation and Restriction of Chemicals, intended to protect the environment and health from potential hazards. The UKian version has already diverged, with new regulations not being enacted in UKia.

I saw a documentary on YouTube the other day about Brexit, and one thing I learned was that at least on of the backers (may have been Tice), wanted to deregulate the control of asbestos as a building material. He actually wants to use it again in buildings!

[Susheel]

Right-wing Hindutva types in India are calling for Modi to "rescue" Braverman and appoint her is some capacity in his party. She has really clicked with the morons here.

[Darat]

In another thread about republicans in the USA not being conservatives this was posted:

Originally Posted by dirtywick

see, here's the thing about it for me: conservatives were wrong about a lot. and i liked those guys back then, they talked tough and loved america. and as long as i've been alive, we've basically been running their game plan. especially in the last 20 years. we got the lower taxes, the money is in the hands of the job creators, we were tough on crime, we got the guns, we cut the programs, kept everything privatizing and privatized some more. not that any of that came without sacrificing some civil rights, which we did in the name of prosperity.

i was wrong above, they weren't wrong, now i know they just straight up lied. but regardless, things aren't better. so, if you think i'm going to listen to their warnings about anything, think again.

I've posted it here because I think we can say the same about the UK, we almost entirely have the society that the Tories have wanted to get "back to", so the Tories are now at a loss to deal with the fact that people don't want what the Tories sold them after all.

To do anything about the "problems" that people want fixing you have to undo the Tory changes because rather than them being problems under the Tories they are "as designed". For example, the attitude to homelessness - Braverman was continuing to deal with them as per Tory "policies" - which is that it is a personal failure and you simply need to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Changes to the benefits for those unable to work because of physical and mental illness, these are "as designed", again it is a personal failure if you are too ill to work and need to turn to the state - the state does not want to support you if you've made a "choice" to not work.

[Darat]

Originally Posted by Susheel

Right-wing Hindutva types in India are calling for Modi to "rescue" Braverman and appoint her is some capacity in his party. She has really clicked with the morons here.

I am sure we can do a gofundme page to get her a plane ticket!

[catsmate]

Wrt the new plans for chemical management, the Greener UK coalition, Wildlife and Countryside Link, CHEM Trust and other organisations are expressing their disquiet.

Quote:

This statement confirms our long-held view that the UK Reach model will continue to be a poor relation to EU Reach.

[Andy_Ross]

The husband of Victoria Atkins, the new Secretary of State for Health and Social Care is the Managing Director of British Sugar.

As well as sugar production they are also the UKs largest grower and exporter of medicinal cannabis.

Also has directorships with Pride Oils PLC, Westmill Foods, BE International Foods, Seedcote Systems Ltd, the Wereham Gravel Company, ABF Grain Products, Mitra Sugar and Davjon Food.

[catsmate]

In further Brexit related news, Odey Asset Management (a hedge fund) is closing down.
The company was beset by numerous and plausible accusations of sexual harassment and assault by junior female staff against OAM's founder Crispin Odey. Despite frantic efforts to sidestep the accusations, and dumping and unpersoning their founder, investors has continued to exit the fund.

Odey was a major donor to the Conservative party (~2M) and supporter of Brexit, from which he and his fund made extensive profits from short-selling Sterling during the Brexit debacle.

[Darat]

Originally Posted by Andy_Ross

The husband of Victoria Atkins, the new Secretary of State for Health and Social Care is the Managing Director of British Sugar.

As well as sugar production they are also the UKs largest grower and exporter of medicinal cannabis.

Also has directorships with Pride Oils PLC, Westmill Foods, BE International Foods, Seedcote Systems Ltd, the Wereham Gravel Company, ABF Grain Products, Mitra Sugar and Davjon Food.

Makes her well connected for her new job! It's the Tory way...

[Vixen]

How lovely to see Prime Minister Rish! Sunk appoint a Minister for Common Sense, in the form of Esther McVey. Common sense is something that has long been needed in this country.

The political philosophy of Common Sense comes from the Economics School of Thought of Great Thinkers, Cur Alfred Edward Garnett (c.1917 - ), educated at St. Bruno’s and graduating with a <cough> in Straight Billiards at the Stadium of West Ham (Lower Tier). Garnett’s important treatise (3 pages) with the title, ‘Yer ‘Ammers’ (first two pages blank) sets out the leitmotif, of how Common Sense is predicated in the complex academic concept of, ‘Stands to reason’.

This affirmation can be emphasised by adding the term, ‘Don’t it’ (glottal stop important to note), or, ‘Eh?’ and should be stated with firm conviction in the face of the socialist opposition. Cur Garnett was the founder of the anti-Randy Scouse Git movement, a term which has now been modernised into the transatlantic, anti -‘Woke’.

This is just as well, as the Rt Hon Esther McVey*, Secretary of State for Common Sense, is of Irish Catholic descent and was born in Liverpool; all of the things Cur Garnett utterly detested in his aforementioned Magnus Opus but which shows that Common Sense and anti-Woke stands to reason, eh? Don’ it?

Footnote: Cur Alfred is now 106 and spends his days selling poppies once a year at West Ham tube station, whilst posing for Daily Mail photographers in his Parachute Regiment beret and SAS badge, although Garnett never actually served in the war as he was in a Reserved Occupation.

Source; wikipedia

*Some of the Rt. Hon. McVey's deeply intellectual quotes on Common Sense can be found here, at Brainy Quotes: https://www.brainyquote.com/lists/au...r-mcvey-quotes

[Nessie]

That David Cameron has been brought back into the Government, shows just how much corruption has been normalised.

[Carrot Flower King]

Originally Posted by Darat

I am sure we can do a gofundme page to get her a plane ticket!

Put me down for a tenner. Mebbe twenty...

[Andy_Ross]

New polling today from Savanta shows Labour lead Conservatives by 18 points

Labour 46% (+1)
Conservative 28% (-1)
Liberal Democrat 10% (-1)
Reform UK 6% (+1)
Green 4% (+1)
SNP 2% (=)


Seems his reshuffle hasn't had the desired effect.

[Carrot Flower King]

I note that Cameron has been blethering about his "committment to public service" (y'know, a bit like his fellow hereditary rich folk the royals do).

OK, so why are none of you working as hospital porters? Health care assistants? Bin men? Sewage workers?

Dave? Chucky? Wills? Anyone? Anyone at all?

[Nessie]

Suella strikes back

https://twitter.com/SuellaBraverman/...65401982070914

She accuses Sunak of weakness and breaking promises.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by Nessie

Suella strikes back

https://twitter.com/SuellaBraverman/...65401982070914

She accuses Sunak of weakness and breaking promises.

Tbh the same allegations could be made about any Conservative.

[P.J. Denyer]

Originally Posted by Nessie

Suella strikes back

https://twitter.com/SuellaBraverman/...65401982070914

She accuses Sunak of weakness and breaking promises.

Hell hath no fury like a whatever the **** she is scorned.