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Old 4th February 2023, 09:28 AM   #2281
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Looks like Liz Truss is attempting a comeback by attempting to cast Sunak as a TINO.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64523277

I suppose she's right. Most of his cruelty is because he doesn't care about the little people and isn't necessarily deliberate.
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Old 4th February 2023, 01:33 PM   #2282
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Originally Posted by The Don View Post
Looks like Liz Truss is attempting a comeback by attempting to cast Sunak as a TINO.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64523277

I suppose she's right. Most of his cruelty is because he doesn't care about the little people and isn't necessarily deliberate.
He's a man who has no clue how the world works for most people and blithely assumes that if his wealthy friends are doing okay everything is fine.
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Liz Truss claims the omnishambles wasn't her fault and her policies were sound.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64527252

This wouldn't be worrying, just a failed politician whining except that it's in a major newspaper and so presumably these failed policies will continue to be promoted.

She also claims that she was hampered by a left wing establishment - a deep state if you will. If she considers the establishment to be left wing that's a clear indication of what a right wing nutjob she is iMO.

Very Trumpist rhetoric.
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Originally Posted by The Don View Post
Looks like Liz Truss is attempting a comeback by attempting to cast Sunak as a TINO.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64523277

I suppose she's right. Most of his cruelty is because he doesn't care about the little people and isn't necessarily deliberate.
She should know, most of her cruelty stems from the same source.

Liz Truss: too stupid to not critcise others for traits she displays even worse.
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Truss has/is the subject of an article in the Torygraph today (haven't seen the actual article so it could be either), the accompanying photo is interesting, she's posing next to a picture that seems to be Che Guevara's face on Napoleon's body, so I guess she's planning her come back on a wave of anti-EU lies and propaganda.


ETA: Someone's tracked down the original portrait & it's Nelson not Napoleon, so "The Left Are Stealing Our History" Culture War Bollox rater than EU.
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Old 5th February 2023, 04:37 AM   #2286
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Shock! Horror! BlowJob was lying! Who'd'a'thunk it?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ing-permission
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Old 5th February 2023, 04:56 AM   #2287
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Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King View Post
Shock! Horror! BlowJob was lying! Who'd'a'thunk it?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ing-permission
In Johnson terms that’s almost the gospel truth, that any have full planning permission is a surprise to me!
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Old 5th February 2023, 07:27 AM   #2288
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Originally Posted by The Don View Post
Looks like Liz Truss is attempting a comeback by attempting to cast Sunak as a TINO.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64523277

I suppose she's right. Most of his cruelty is because he doesn't care about the little people and isn't necessarily deliberate.

To quote the poster in a cartoon on p. 15 of this week's Private Eye:

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CARELESS, NOT DELIBERATE.

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Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King View Post
Shock! Horror! BlowJob was lying! Who'd'a'thunk it?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ing-permission
Given that only eight of them were actual new hospitals and most of the rest were refurbishments already sanctioned, I'm surprised they needed ten planning applications.
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Given that only eight of them were actual new hospitals and most of the rest were refurbishments already sanctioned, I'm surprised they needed ten planning applications.
Given this government's record of competence & lawfulness I'm amazed any of them thought/bothered with little things like planning.
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Truss still can't face up to how wrong she was and continues to tell lies about her visit to 10 Downing Street - https://www.theguardian.com/politics...omy-misleading

What is this "mandate" she writes about? She didn't have a "mandate" and has certainly never done anything worthy of anything close to respect.

It really is a good thing that Brenda's death stopped Truss from trying to do anything else: there were enough screw ups if the couple of weeks she did have to "do" anything.
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Truss saw Matt Hancock make a reasonable attempt at rehabilitating his image, finishing 3rd in "I'm a celebrity..." and rewriting history in his memoire and thought, well if he can do it....
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Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King View Post
Truss still can't face up to how wrong she was and continues to tell lies about her visit to 10 Downing Street - https://www.theguardian.com/politics...omy-misleading

What is this "mandate" she writes about? She didn't have a "mandate" and has certainly never done anything worthy of anything close to respect.

It really is a good thing that Brenda's death stopped Truss from trying to do anything else: there were enough screw ups if the couple of weeks she did have to "do" anything.
Hang on a moment - you mean these pessimistic experts didn't give her advice, why I can't believe that given her love of experts, they must have been hiding from her.
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Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King View Post
Truss still can't face up to how wrong she was and continues to tell lies about her visit to 10 Downing Street - https://www.theguardian.com/politics...omy-misleading

What is this "mandate" she writes about? She didn't have a "mandate" and has certainly never done anything worthy of anything close to respect.

It really is a good thing that Brenda's death stopped Truss from trying to do anything else: there were enough screw ups if the couple of weeks she did have to "do" anything.
I'm cheering her on.

The more she draws attention to her mandate and how it was a tiny fraction of the country that had a say and that one cannot trust the Tory party to not chose a deranged PM midway through a Parliament the better.
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Truss saw Matt Hancock make a reasonable attempt at rehabilitating his image, finishing 3rd in "I'm a celebrity..." and rewriting history in his memoire and thought, well if he can do it....
You use the "T" word in the context of Truss: do we have any evidence that this is actually possible?
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I'm cheering her on.

The more she draws attention to her mandate and how it was a tiny fraction of the country that had a say and that one cannot trust the Tory party to not chose a deranged PM midway through a Parliament the better.
Good point.

Heard some of her interview with Balls and Nelson of The Spectator on PM just now, in which she continued to come across as somewhere between deranged and unhinged, definitely somewhat Dagenham, if not outright Upminster.
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You use the "T" word in the context of Truss: do we have any evidence that this is actually possible?
A Scottish phrase I think I've used here before "Her heid's full o wee motors"
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A Scottish phrase I think I've used here before "Her heid's full o wee motors"
I like that one and will steal it.
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Originally Posted by Nessie View Post
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"Welcome @LeeAndersonMP_
- our new Deputy Chairman of the @Conservatives"
To quote Dan Kaszeta* on Twitter

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Bejeebus. They're just passing out bottles of meths in the cockpit of the Hindenburg.
*A bloke with a highly unconventional CV.

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Fellow at RUSI and Liveryman of London

He also photographs himself bravely eating charcuterie and drinking alcohol in nice pubs/bars/cafés etc in so called Sharia law zones in London.
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On Tweet: Lee Anderson OBE - Out Before Easter

ETA: A bit of background on Anderson: https://www.itv.com/news/central/202...erson-has-done

Note - not the BBC....

ETA1: And I am certain Sunak has never heard about any of that!
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Originally Posted by Nessie View Post
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"Welcome @LeeAndersonMP_
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If there was ever any doubt of the Conservatives' intention to follow the Republican Party down the right wing, conspiracy theorist, white supremacist rabbit hole.
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On Tweet: Lee Anderson OBE - Out Before Easter

ETA: A bit of background on Anderson: https://www.itv.com/news/central/202...erson-has-done

Note - not the BBC....

ETA1: And I am certain Sunak has never heard about any of that!
Dog whistles are notoriously difficult for people with excess melanin to hear.
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Lee ******* Anderson?????!!!!!!?????

Sunak really is gaslighting the country now.
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
On Tweet: Lee Anderson OBE - Out Before Easter

ETA: A bit of background on Anderson: https://www.itv.com/news/central/202...erson-has-done

Note - not the BBC....

ETA1: And I am certain Sunak has never heard about any of that!

See also: https://www.theguardian.com/politics...oversy-machine
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Surprise, surprise - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...expenses-fraud
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...yment-speeches

Now, remind me why we are paying this twunt £115k a year over and above his £84k MP salary, which he isn't actually earning as he's never here?
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Now, remind me why we are paying this twunt £115k a year over and above his £84k MP salary, which he isn't actually earning as he's never here?
Hell, how financially incompetent must one be to rake in that kind of monery, and still having to go cap in hand to his Brexiteer sugar daddy for a place to live?
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The Uk Parliament's answer to George Santos......
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Hell, how financially incompetent must one be to rake in that kind of monery, and still having to go cap in hand to his Brexiteer sugar daddy for a place to live?
In his world this is the exact opposite of incompetence. He's raking in the dosh by the millions! Result!!
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Hell, how financially incompetent must one be to rake in that kind of monery, and still having to go cap in hand to his Brexiteer sugar daddy for a place to live?
You don't get rich spending your own money
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You don't get rich spending your own money
Supposedly the only thing more notorious than the depth of Bozo's pockets is the shortness of his arms.
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His family was originally from Yorkshire - didn't know that.
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His family was originally from Yorkshire - didn't know that.
Darat, you're better than that.

I'm not even a Yorkshireman and I find that offensive.
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Darat, you're better than that.

I'm not even a Yorkshireman and I find that offensive.
Yeah - you are right shouldn't insult Yorkshire folk like that!
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The new Conservative deputy chairman is expressing views which IMO would be very popular among the members, but where the leadership don't want it said out loud:

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The new deputy chairman of the Conservative Party, Lee Anderson, has said he would support the return of the death penalty.

In an interview with the Spectator before he was appointed to the role, he argued "nobody has ever committed a crime after being executed".

The Tory Party said his position was not the view of the government.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64580487

IMO the Tory leadership are happy with these views being expressed, they allow both sides to be played against each other.

I'd remind Lee Anderson that nobody has gone on to live a full life after being wrongfully convicted and executed.
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No-one ever dodged tax or misused public funds after being executed either.

I'm not advocating anything, I'm just saying...
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The new Conservative deputy chairman is expressing views which IMO would be very popular among the members, but where the leadership don't want it said out loud:



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64580487

IMO the Tory leadership are happy with these views being expressed, they allow both sides to be played against each other.

I'd remind Lee Anderson that nobody has gone on to live a full life after being wrongfully convicted and executed.
It is quite strange when you have to consider both the current and the previous but one PMs are criminals that he wants to associate with them.
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No-one ever dodged tax or misused public funds after being executed either.

I'm not advocating anything, I'm just saying...
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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The new Conservative deputy chairman is expressing views which IMO would be very popular among the members, but where the leadership don't want it said out loud:



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64580487

IMO the Tory leadership are happy with these views being expressed, they allow both sides to be played against each other.

I'd remind Lee Anderson that nobody has gone on to live a full life after being wrongfully convicted and executed.
After reading Mr Anderson's words I move that being a tory party politician should become the capital crime. See how long he's in favour of the death penalty then.
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