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In this context, also kudos to Singapore. Different vaccines, but somewhat similar strategies. Daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people: Cuba, Singapore, USA, Denmark - Oct 1, 2022 --> present Cuba had a very tough time from June to October 2021 when Delta hit the country before vaccinations, the delay of which was largely due to the US blockade. Daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people: Cuba, Singapore - March 23, 2020 --> present Since then Cuba has been doing much better than Singapore, but the disparity in population density is considerable: Cuba: 106 per km2 Singapore: 8,358 per km2 Cumulative confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people: Cuba, Singapore, USA, Denmark |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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I forgot to update this in December, so let's take a look at the numbers since Nov 17, 2022:
Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people in Cuba since Nov 17, 2022. On Nov 17, 2022: 0.28; on Jan 16, 2023: 1.45. A considerable rise in the number of new cases from Nov 22, 0.19 to Dec 26, 2.42. The numbers have been deceasing since then to now 1.45, probably due to the face-mask recommendations. (See posts above.) But still much higher than the November numbers. For perspective: Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people in Cuba and the USA since Nov 17, 2022. USA Nov 17: 114.14; Jan 16, 2023: 140.68 (from 225.26 on Jan 9). The SARS-CoV-2 numbers from Our World in Data, Nov 16, 2021, and now: Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people. 7-day rolling average. Cuba 33, USA 251. --> Cuba 1.45, USA 140.68. Daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people. 7-day rolling average. Cuba 0.23, USA 3.49. --> Cuba 0.0, USA 1.57. Cumulative confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people Cuba 760.78, USA 3,251.31. No new Covid-19 deaths in Cuba since Aug 21, 2022. Vaccinations: Share of people vaccinated against COVID-19, Nov 19, 2021 and now: Cuba: fully 73.41, total 89.07; USA: fully 57.58, total 67.38. --> Cuba: fully 89.24, total 95.63; USA: fully 69.08, total 80.73. It takes three jabs to be considered fully vaccinated in Cuba, and Cuba offers booster shots more often, so the difference is even bigger if we look at: COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people Cuba 238.92, USA 130.99. --> Cuba 382.91, USA 200.75. Daily COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people. Rolling 7-day average. Cuba 0.98, USA 0.30. --> Cuba 0.17 (Jan 14), USA 0.04 (Jan 10). For a while, from Oct 1 to Dec 27, the USA was actually vaccinating more per capita than Cuba, but the rising number of new infections has made Cuba ramp up its vaccination programme again. CNN's Tracking Covid-19 vaccinations worldwide The numbers in this thread from Dec 17, 2021, Jan 17, 2022, Feb 17, Mar 16, April 17, May 17, June 17, July 17, Aug 17, Sep 17, Oct 17 and Nov 18. |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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The Cuban COVID-19 vaccines Soberana-02 & Soberana-Plus
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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It's an opinion piece, not an editorial, but still ...
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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For some reason, nobody wanted to comment on the most recent Cuban referendum. I mentioned it in the thread about Evangelical Homophobia in Cuba, and I witnessed it taking place in Havana on Sep 25, 2022, with cute kids standing guard at the ballot boxes. I didn't notice any cruel oppression. I didn't see the celebrations afterwards, and I didn't see anybody complain, but they may have been scared off by the threatening attitude of the girls in school uniforms. Not everybody was happy with the outcome:
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And now there's a chance to learn about elections to the Cuban National Assembly of People's Power, which will be held on March 26, 2023: Cuba alista elecciones nacionales de marzo próximo (PrensaLatina, Jan 13, 2023) Cuban Parliamentary Election: Electoral system (Wikipedia) |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Two posts about pandemic measures in Cuba and Singapore in the thread How do we know a pandemic's over?
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...9#post13999149 http://www.internationalskeptics.com...0#post13999160 |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Occasionally, people pretend to know how Cuba's system of government works:
Now there's a chance to learn! The election of Cuba's National Assembly of People's Power takes place on March 26, but the electoral process has already started:
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To integrate the electoral list, each proposal for candidate for deputy must obtain this Sunday more than 50% of the votes of the delegates Tomorrow, the municipal assemblies of Popular Power will nominate the candidates for deputies See also post 206 |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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The camp is still there, but Belize receives prisoner released from US naval base in Guantanamo (PrensaLatina, Feb 4, 2023). |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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What is wrong with this guy?! Is he a bloody communist? Is the trying to make thousands of ophthalmologists lose their jobs? There's something very suspicious going on here! He must have ulterior motives, and he's gotta be stopped!
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Cuban elections in English: Candidates to Cuba’s parliament hold meetings with citizens (+Photos) (PrensaLatina, Feb 6, 2023) Cuban president participates in assembly to approve candidacy (+Photo) (PrensaLatina, Feb 6, 2023) Parliamentary candidates tour Cuban provinces (PrensaLatina, Feb 7, 2023) in Spanish: Dialogan con el pueblo granmense candidatos a diputados al Parlamento Cubano (Trabajadores.cu, Feb 6, 2023) Realizan encuentros con la población candidatos a diputados de Arroyo Naranjo (Trabajadores.cu, Feb 6, 2023) Dialogan con el pueblo candidatos a diputados camagüeyanos (Trabajadores.cu, Feb 7, 2023) Con Filo: La candidatura (Trabajadores.cu, Feb 7, 2023) Sin promesas, ni varitas mágicas andan los candidatos a diputados (Trabajadores.cu, Feb 7, 2023) Las próximas elecciones nacionales serán otro hecho de valentía y de democracia de Cuba (JuventudRebelde, Feb 6, 2023) Candidatos a diputados en segunda jornada junto al pueblo (JuventudRebelde, Feb 7, 2023) En Virgina clases sobre el buen hacer comunitario (JuventudRebelde, Feb 7, 2023) Estos son los candidatos a diputados a la X Legislatura del Parlamento cubano (Granma.cu, Feb 7, 2023) |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Demonstrating “Abdala” Subunit Vaccine Stability Under Thermal Stress Conditions (BioProcessing Journal, Vol. 21, Sep 2022) |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people in Cuba since Feb 17, 2022.
For perspective (notice the y-axis): Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people in Cuba and the USA since Feb 17, 2022. Cuba does have regular updates, for instance Feb 16 and Jan 31. However, unlike the daily updates in New Zealand, I haven't seen any that distinguish between incoming travellers and others. The SARS-CoV-2 numbers from Our World in Data, Nov 16, 2021, and now: Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people. 7-day rolling average. Cuba 33, USA 251. --> Cuba 0.42, USA 98.68. Daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people. 7-day rolling average. Cuba 0.23, USA 3.49. --> Cuba 0.0, USA 1.01. Cumulative confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people Cuba 760.78, USA 3,301.23. No new Covid-19 deaths in Cuba since Aug 21, 2022. Vaccinations: Share of people vaccinated against COVID-19, Nov 19, 2021 and now: Cuba: fully 73.41, total 89.07; USA: fully 57.58, total 67.38. --> Cuba: fully 89.26, total 95.67; USA: fully 69.22, total 80.93. It takes three jabs to be considered fully vaccinated in Cuba, and Cuba offers booster shots more often, so the difference is even bigger if we look at: COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people Cuba 238.92, USA 130.99. --> Cuba 388.54, USA 201.89. Daily COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people. Rolling 7-day average. Cuba 0.98, USA 0.30. --> Cuba 0.08 (Feb 14), USA 0.02 (Feb 7). I don't know if the USA has stopped reporting vax numbers: Daily share of the population receiving a COVID-19 vaccine dose CNN's Tracking Covid-19 vaccinations worldwide The numbers in this thread from Dec 17, 2021, Jan 17, 2022, Feb 17, Mar 16, April 17, May 17, June 17, July 17, Aug 17, Sep 17, Oct 17,Nov 18 and Jan 17, 2023. |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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"the lack of attention to public health in those countries"
See U.S. and Cuban vaccination numbers in the previous post!
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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For a longer life, Cuba bets on improving health (RadioReloj.cu, Feb 22, 2023)
For a shorter life, Western countries bet on learning to live with the virus. |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Even though 'Havana Syndrome', 'Anomalous Health Incidents' and 'attacks' on U.S. diplomats and spies aren't mentioned at all, it can't be a coincidence that this happens less than a week after those ideas have been deemed untrue by the ODNI report.
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Big conference in New York about attempts to normalize US-Cuban relations:
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Tomorrow, Sunday, there will be a webinar on Zoom. Pre-register for in-person or virtual attendance. |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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For some reason, Cuban diplomats don't seem to think that the arrests of at least 1,000 American protesters stemming from January 2021 protests in Washington are the "most serious obstacle" to further improvement in relations. Could it be because Cuban diplomats are just better informed than their U.S. counterparts and know that those American protesters weren't arrested for protesting but for something beyond protesting? |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people in Cuba since Mar 16, 2022.
For perspective (notice the y-axis): Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people in Cuba and the USA since Mar 16, 2022. The SARS-CoV-2 numbers from Our World in Data, Nov 16, 2021, and now: Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people. 7-day rolling average. Cuba 33, USA 251. --> Cuba 0.38 (Mar 16), USA 72.04 (Mar 11). Daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people. 7-day rolling average. Cuba 0.23, USA 3.49. --> Cuba 0.0 (Mar 16), USA 0.93 (Mar 10). Cumulative confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people Cuba 760.78, USA 3,290.76. No new Covid-19 deaths in Cuba since Aug 21, 2022. USA number down since last month's 3,301.23. Maybe due to adjustments of population size? Vaccinations: Share of people vaccinated against COVID-19, Nov 19, 2021 and now: Cuba: fully 73.41, total 89.07; USA: fully 57.58, total 67.38. --> Cuba: fully 89.27, total 95.70; USA: fully 69.32, total 81.07. It takes three jabs to be considered fully vaccinated in Cuba, and Cuba offers booster shots more often, so the difference is even bigger if we look at: COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people Cuba 238.92, USA 130.99. --> Cuba 390.05, USA 202.57. Daily COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people. Rolling 7-day average. Cuba 0.98, USA 0.30. --> Cuba 0.05 (Mar 14), USA 0.01 (Mar 7). The USA seems to be reporting its numbers only once a week now: Daily share of the population receiving a COVID-19 vaccine dose CNN's Tracking Covid-19 vaccinations worldwide Earlier numbers: Dec 17, 2021, Jan 17, 2022, Feb 17, Mar 16, April 17, May 17, June 17, July 17, Aug 17, Sep 17, Oct 17, Nov 18, Jan 17, 2023, Feb 17. |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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