[Merged] Bitcoin - Part 3 - Page 4

psionl0 · 1st July 2019, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by Samson

Let bitcoin never be dull

Bitcoin price goes up. Bitcoin price goes down.

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Dr.Sid · 2nd July 2019, 04:13 AM

Btw. most of the time people say how every new BTC bubble goes higher than the previous one. This one is clearly not the case. Has BTC really peaked ?

Samson · 2nd July 2019, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by Dr.Sid

Btw. most of the time people say how every new BTC bubble goes higher than the previous one. This one is clearly not the case. Has BTC really peaked ?

Disclosure of interest.
I have never had any bitcoin, but as a complete believer with delivered proof on other threads here that price history alone is sufficient to deliver highly accurate predictions with concomitant certain profits, I can say that bitcoin is a sublime follower of technical fashion.

However my view is always coloured by the logic,
rat poison,
I think far less of it.

It is all bulldust, destined to be exterminated with the vermin.

I know I am being way too kind.

psionl0 · 2nd July 2019, 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by Dr.Sid

Btw. most of the time people say how every new BTC bubble goes higher than the previous one. This one is clearly not the case. Has BTC really peaked ?

I can't add much to what I said in post #115. NOBODY knows what will happen next and don't let anybody here tell you otherwise.

The_Animus · 5th July 2019, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Samson

Disclosure of interest.
I have never had any bitcoin, but as a complete believer with delivered proof on other threads here that price history alone is sufficient to deliver highly accurate predictions with concomitant certain profits, I can say that bitcoin is a sublime follower of technical fashion.

It's a good thing you didn't actually follow your own predictions on bitcoin. With how often you've been completely wrong you'd be dead broke.

You have never been highly accurate, you just champion the times you guess right and ignore all the times you guess wrong.

You're no different than people who claim to be psychic. The only person you're fooling is yourself.

Samson · 6th July 2019, 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by The_Animus

It's a good thing you didn't actually follow your own predictions on bitcoin. With how often you've been completely wrong you'd be dead broke.

You have never been highly accurate, you just champion the times you guess right and ignore all the times you guess wrong.

You're no different than people who claim to be psychic. The only person you're fooling is yourself.

Incorrect.
I have many times listed the specific predictions and actual outcomes on the TA threads, and faithful auditing shows a clearly non random profit profile.
Time and sales was the old way.

Bitcoin is highly predictable with TA, but rat poison fools even rats.

trustbutverify · 6th July 2019, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by Samson

Incorrect.

He was being generous. You may actually be the worst make believe trader in internet forum history.

Quote:

Bitcoin is highly predictable with TA

Not for you it aint.

Samson · 8th July 2019, 03:20 PM

In fact I said sell at 11717, went as high as 12250 then down to 9614

Since then there have been multiple iterations of the algorithm saying buy it, but my disgust at the entity precludes me saying it.

psionl0 · 8th July 2019, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by Samson

In fact I said sell at 11717, went as high as 12250 then down to 9614

ie You failed.

Originally Posted by Samson

Since then there have been multiple iterations of the algorithm saying buy it, but my disgust at the entity precludes me saying it.

If you say that there is something immoral about bitcoin then it must be the paragon of virtue.

Only a fool (or somebody with a vested interest) would say that one form of gambling is more moral than another.

lomiller · 9th July 2019, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by psionl0

I can't add much to what I said in post #115. NOBODY knows what will happen next and don't let anybody here tell you otherwise.

This is about as harsh a criticism as you can get for a purported “investment”

Samson · 11th July 2019, 03:50 AM

Bitcoin is poised to meet its doom.
Warren Buffet calls it rat poison and Charlie Munger says of bitcoin I like it a lot less than Warren.
Perfect.
The infinite supply of, say
Bitcoin 1, Bitcoin 2..................Bitcoin n

Means that Tyler and Cameron Winkelvoss should share the key and bail out.

psionl0 · 11th July 2019, 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by Samson

The infinite supply of, say
Bitcoin 1, Bitcoin 2..................Bitcoin n

Do you think that 40 days is long enough for everybody to forget that you tried this crap for the nth time and got your ass handed to you yet again?

Samson · 11th July 2019, 05:56 AM

Yes

Samson · 11th July 2019, 01:27 PM

The algo just said go short

11147 last

Mycroft · 11th July 2019, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Samson

The algo just said go short

11147 last

Can you clarify what that means? Does it mean you expect the price to fall? What time frame?

$11311.70 last.

Samson · 11th July 2019, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Mycroft

Can you clarify what that means? Does it mean you expect the price to fall? What time frame?

$11311.70 last.

Yes I expect it to fall over the next week, to around 10,000.
If it rallied above 12000 meantime I would call the trade a failure.

psionl0 · 11th July 2019, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Mycroft

Can you clarify what that means? Does it mean you expect the price to fall? What time frame?

It means that Samson is betting on tails.

Samson · 16th July 2019, 03:48 PM

Libra is being designed with utility as the primary function, allowing instant transfer without cost. Bitcoin is declining accordingly. Libra can "suck the oxygen" from all other cryptos.

Dr.Sid · 16th July 2019, 04:57 PM

Libra has no speculative potential, and other cryptos are not used for utility all that much. I don't see it.

Samson · 16th July 2019, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Dr.Sid

Libra has no speculative potential, and other cryptos are not used for utility all that much. I don't see it.

I watch Blocktv, just google it, goes all the time with very clever speakers.
Way above my paygrade so I listen for the most sensible sounding ideas, and that was one of them.

Think about it, blockchain is a thing, and facebook has 2.5 billion users, many with no access to bank accounts, who look for an easy way to remit or receive money. Bitcoin may have done the heavy lifting establishing protocols, but intrinsic value will be forever out of reach.

jrhowell · 16th July 2019, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Dr.Sid

Libra has no speculative potential, and other cryptos are not used for utility all that much. I don't see it.

And a significant portion of the non-speculative utility of bitcoin is in paying ransoms, money laundering, and buying illegal products. I suspect that Libra will be an inferior choice for those purposes. Bitcoin is safe for now.

The_Animus · 17th July 2019, 10:36 AM

Facebook has had repeated issues with data collection, breaches of privacy, and lying about those things.

Anyone with even half a brain shouldn't trust them with their own currency.

Belz... · 17th July 2019, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Samson

I watch Blocktv

Sounds slightly biased towards cryptos.

Samson · 17th July 2019, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Belz...

Sounds slightly biased towards cryptos.

Sort of, maybe more Fox than CNN or CNBC
Still, a subject that is more complex than I thought.

Samson · 22nd July 2019, 03:45 AM

My last two time stamped predictions have afforded extravagant returns.

Don't mention it.

Sell right now for 8000, 12000 again the giddy limit.

Last 10484

Samson · 9th September 2019, 12:06 AM

Locked in bear market, expect 6000

10210 last stop 11100

psionl0 · 9th September 2019, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by Samson

Locked in bear market, expect 6000

10210 last stop 11100

You don't see the irony of posting this immediately after your July post? (The price never dropped below 9000 and has been sitting comfortably around the 10,000 mark for at least the last 3 months).

Samson · 9th September 2019, 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by psionl0

You don't see the irony of posting this immediately after your July post? (The price never dropped below 9000 and has been sitting comfortably around the 10,000 mark for at least the last 3 months).

Not at all.
I made a prediction that worked, then one that entailed a far lesser loss.
I have made a new prediction that affords a 5 to 1 win ratio, and I plan to collect.

psionl0 · 9th September 2019, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by Samson

I made a prediction that never worked

ftfy.

Samson · 10th September 2019, 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by psionl0

ftfy.

Blocktv is great.
Bitcoin maximilists, hodlers, fomos, articulate pontificators, art of the chart is a highlight for those with appreciation of humour, fortunately it repeats and repeats, so it need not be a 24 hour addiction.

Samson · 11th September 2019, 02:00 AM

The great crypto bearmarket is now underway, Winkelvoss twins should liquidate, this is the end of the line, nothing can be sustained by something that is fueled by abject greed.

Dr.Sid · 11th September 2019, 03:00 AM

Add heavy bass line, and it would make for a nice rap.

Samson · 11th September 2019, 03:49 AM

Thank you.

Belz... · 11th September 2019, 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by Samson

Not at all.
I made a prediction that worked

How did it work, exactly?

The Don · 11th September 2019, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Belz...

How did it work, exactly?

Got some attention on a small forum on the outer edges of the internet ?

ChrisBFRPKY · 11th September 2019, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Dr.Sid

Btw. most of the time people say how every new BTC bubble goes higher than the previous one. This one is clearly not the case. Has BTC really peaked ?

I don't believe most people say every new bubble goes higher than the previous one. I think you are confusing a bubble with an ordinary price increase. There will come a time when BTC peaks above 20K, but when is the unknowable.....

Chris B.

BStrong · 11th September 2019, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Mycroft

Can you clarify what that means? Does it mean you expect the price to fall? What time frame?

$11311.70 last.

Al told him to Go away.

dudalb · 11th September 2019, 03:49 PM

Hey, bitcoin is pretty much a cult now for the dumber wing of the Libertarians and Right Wingers in general,

psionl0 · 11th September 2019, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Hey, bitcoin is pretty much a cult now for the dumber wing of the Libertarians and Right Wingers in general,

When and how did it become that way?

Roger Ramjets · 11th September 2019, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisBFRPKY

I don't believe most people say every new bubble goes higher than the previous one. I think you are confusing a bubble with an ordinary price increase. There will come a time when BTC peaks above 20K, but when is the unknowable.....

Perhaps, but for John Mcafee's sake it needs to go much higher than $20k.

So far it's not looking good...

Bitcoin Price Prediction Tracker

2nd July 2019, 05:21 AM	#124
psionl0 Skeptical about skeptics Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 31°57'S 115°57'E Posts: 19,932	Originally Posted by Dr.Sid Btw. most of the time people say how every new BTC bubble goes higher than the previous one. This one is clearly not the case. Has BTC really peaked ? I can't add much to what I said in post #115. NOBODY knows what will happen next and don't let anybody here tell you otherwise.
	__________________ "The process by which banks create money is so simple that the mind is repelled. Where something so important is involved, a deeper mystery seems only decent." - Galbraith, 1975

5th July 2019, 07:22 AM	#125
The_Animus Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,355	Originally Posted by Samson Disclosure of interest. I have never had any bitcoin, but as a complete believer with delivered proof on other threads here that price history alone is sufficient to deliver highly accurate predictions with concomitant certain profits, I can say that bitcoin is a sublime follower of technical fashion. It's a good thing you didn't actually follow your own predictions on bitcoin. With how often you've been completely wrong you'd be dead broke. You have never been highly accurate, you just champion the times you guess right and ignore all the times you guess wrong. You're no different than people who claim to be psychic. The only person you're fooling is yourself.
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6th July 2019, 06:27 AM	#127
trustbutverify Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 10,051	Originally Posted by Samson Incorrect. He was being generous. You may actually be the worst make believe trader in internet forum history. Quote: Bitcoin is highly predictable with TA Not for you it aint.
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8th July 2019, 07:13 PM	#129
psionl0 Skeptical about skeptics Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 31°57'S 115°57'E Posts: 19,932	Originally Posted by Samson In fact I said sell at 11717, went as high as 12250 then down to 9614 ie You failed. Originally Posted by Samson Since then there have been multiple iterations of the algorithm saying buy it, but my disgust at the entity precludes me saying it. If you say that there is something immoral about bitcoin then it must be the paragon of virtue. Only a fool (or somebody with a vested interest) would say that one form of gambling is more moral than another.
	__________________ "The process by which banks create money is so simple that the mind is repelled. Where something so important is involved, a deeper mystery seems only decent." - Galbraith, 1975

9th July 2019, 08:58 AM	#130
lomiller Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 12,803	Originally Posted by psionl0 I can't add much to what I said in post #115. NOBODY knows what will happen next and don't let anybody here tell you otherwise. This is about as harsh a criticism as you can get for a purported “investment”
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2nd July 2019, 04:13 AM	#122
Dr.Sid Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Olomouc, Czech Republic Posts: 4,040	Btw. most of the time people say how every new BTC bubble goes higher than the previous one. This one is clearly not the case. Has BTC really peaked ?

2nd July 2019, 05:06 AM	#123
Samson Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,417	Originally Posted by Dr.Sid Btw. most of the time people say how every new BTC bubble goes higher than the previous one. This one is clearly not the case. Has BTC really peaked ? Disclosure of interest. I have never had any bitcoin, but as a complete believer with delivered proof on other threads here that price history alone is sufficient to deliver highly accurate predictions with concomitant certain profits, I can say that bitcoin is a sublime follower of technical fashion. However my view is always coloured by the logic, rat poison, I think far less of it. It is all bulldust, destined to be exterminated with the vermin. I know I am being way too kind.

6th July 2019, 03:15 AM	#126
Samson Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,417	Originally Posted by The_Animus It's a good thing you didn't actually follow your own predictions on bitcoin. With how often you've been completely wrong you'd be dead broke. You have never been highly accurate, you just champion the times you guess right and ignore all the times you guess wrong. You're no different than people who claim to be psychic. The only person you're fooling is yourself. Incorrect. I have many times listed the specific predictions and actual outcomes on the TA threads, and faithful auditing shows a clearly non random profit profile. Time and sales was the old way. Bitcoin is highly predictable with TA, but rat poison fools even rats.

8th July 2019, 03:20 PM	#128
Samson Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,417	In fact I said sell at 11717, went as high as 12250 then down to 9614 Since then there have been multiple iterations of the algorithm saying buy it, but my disgust at the entity precludes me saying it.

11th July 2019, 03:50 AM	#131
Samson Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,417	Bitcoin is poised to meet its doom. Warren Buffet calls it rat poison and Charlie Munger says of bitcoin I like it a lot less than Warren. Perfect. The infinite supply of, say Bitcoin 1, Bitcoin 2..................Bitcoin n Means that Tyler and Cameron Winkelvoss should share the key and bail out.

11th July 2019, 04:16 AM	#132
psionl0 Skeptical about skeptics Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 31°57'S 115°57'E Posts: 19,932	Originally Posted by Samson The infinite supply of, say Bitcoin 1, Bitcoin 2..................Bitcoin n Do you think that 40 days is long enough for everybody to forget that you tried this crap for the nth time and got your ass handed to you yet again?
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11th July 2019, 05:56 AM	#133
Samson Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,417	Yes

11th July 2019, 01:27 PM	#134
Samson Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,417	The algo just said go short 11147 last

11th July 2019, 02:46 PM	#135
Mycroft High Priest of Ed Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,860	Originally Posted by Samson The algo just said go short 11147 last Can you clarify what that means? Does it mean you expect the price to fall? What time frame? $11311.70 last.
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11th July 2019, 02:58 PM	#136
Samson Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,417	Originally Posted by Mycroft Can you clarify what that means? Does it mean you expect the price to fall? What time frame? $11311.70 last. Yes I expect it to fall over the next week, to around 10,000. If it rallied above 12000 meantime I would call the trade a failure.

11th July 2019, 09:24 PM	#137
psionl0 Skeptical about skeptics Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 31°57'S 115°57'E Posts: 19,932	Originally Posted by Mycroft Can you clarify what that means? Does it mean you expect the price to fall? What time frame? It means that Samson is betting on tails.
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16th July 2019, 03:48 PM	#138
Samson Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,417	Libra is being designed with utility as the primary function, allowing instant transfer without cost. Bitcoin is declining accordingly. Libra can "suck the oxygen" from all other cryptos.

16th July 2019, 04:57 PM	#139
Dr.Sid Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Olomouc, Czech Republic Posts: 4,040	Libra has no speculative potential, and other cryptos are not used for utility all that much. I don't see it.

16th July 2019, 05:05 PM	#140
Samson Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,417	Originally Posted by Dr.Sid Libra has no speculative potential, and other cryptos are not used for utility all that much. I don't see it. I watch Blocktv, just google it, goes all the time with very clever speakers. Way above my paygrade so I listen for the most sensible sounding ideas, and that was one of them. Think about it, blockchain is a thing, and facebook has 2.5 billion users, many with no access to bank accounts, who look for an easy way to remit or receive money. Bitcoin may have done the heavy lifting establishing protocols, but intrinsic value will be forever out of reach.

16th July 2019, 05:56 PM	#141
jrhowell Muse Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tampa Bay, Florida Posts: 795	Originally Posted by Dr.Sid Libra has no speculative potential, and other cryptos are not used for utility all that much. I don't see it. And a significant portion of the non-speculative utility of bitcoin is in paying ransoms, money laundering, and buying illegal products. I suspect that Libra will be an inferior choice for those purposes. Bitcoin is safe for now.

17th July 2019, 10:36 AM	#142
The_Animus Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,355	Facebook has had repeated issues with data collection, breaches of privacy, and lying about those things. Anyone with even half a brain shouldn't trust them with their own currency.
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17th July 2019, 11:05 AM	#143
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In a post-fact world Posts: 96,875	Originally Posted by Samson I watch Blocktv Sounds slightly biased towards cryptos.
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17th July 2019, 03:34 PM	#144
Samson Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,417	Originally Posted by Belz... Sounds slightly biased towards cryptos. Sort of, maybe more Fox than CNN or CNBC Still, a subject that is more complex than I thought.

22nd July 2019, 03:45 AM	#145
Samson Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,417	My last two time stamped predictions have afforded extravagant returns. Don't mention it. Sell right now for 8000, 12000 again the giddy limit. Last 10484

9th September 2019, 12:06 AM	#146
Samson Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,417	Locked in bear market, expect 6000 10210 last stop 11100

9th September 2019, 12:29 AM	#147
psionl0 Skeptical about skeptics Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 31°57'S 115°57'E Posts: 19,932	Originally Posted by Samson Locked in bear market, expect 6000 10210 last stop 11100 You don't see the irony of posting this immediately after your July post? (The price never dropped below 9000 and has been sitting comfortably around the 10,000 mark for at least the last 3 months).
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9th September 2019, 03:27 AM	#148
Samson Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,417	Originally Posted by psionl0 You don't see the irony of posting this immediately after your July post? (The price never dropped below 9000 and has been sitting comfortably around the 10,000 mark for at least the last 3 months). Not at all. I made a prediction that worked, then one that entailed a far lesser loss. I have made a new prediction that affords a 5 to 1 win ratio, and I plan to collect.

9th September 2019, 04:06 AM	#149
psionl0 Skeptical about skeptics Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 31°57'S 115°57'E Posts: 19,932	Originally Posted by Samson I made a prediction that never worked ftfy.
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10th September 2019, 04:16 AM	#150
Samson Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,417	Originally Posted by psionl0 ftfy. Blocktv is great. Bitcoin maximilists, hodlers, fomos, articulate pontificators, art of the chart is a highlight for those with appreciation of humour, fortunately it repeats and repeats, so it need not be a 24 hour addiction.

11th September 2019, 02:00 AM	#151
Samson Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,417	The great crypto bearmarket is now underway, Winkelvoss twins should liquidate, this is the end of the line, nothing can be sustained by something that is fueled by abject greed.

11th September 2019, 03:00 AM	#152
Dr.Sid Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Olomouc, Czech Republic Posts: 4,040	Add heavy bass line, and it would make for a nice rap.

11th September 2019, 03:49 AM	#153
Samson Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,417	Thank you.

11th September 2019, 04:21 AM	#154
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In a post-fact world Posts: 96,875	Originally Posted by Samson Not at all. I made a prediction that worked How did it work, exactly?
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11th September 2019, 09:52 AM	#155
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 36,396	Originally Posted by Belz... How did it work, exactly? Got some attention on a small forum on the outer edges of the internet ?

11th September 2019, 01:42 PM	#156
ChrisBFRPKY Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,924	Originally Posted by Dr.Sid Btw. most of the time people say how every new BTC bubble goes higher than the previous one. This one is clearly not the case. Has BTC really peaked ? I don't believe most people say every new bubble goes higher than the previous one. I think you are confusing a bubble with an ordinary price increase. There will come a time when BTC peaks above 20K, but when is the unknowable..... Chris B.
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