Hunter Biden Interview on Jimmy Kimmel

Skeptic Ginger · 8th April 2021, 10:46 PM

This was very interesting. Here's the guy in the flesh that we've mostly only heard soundbites about.

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He's written a book putting everything out in the open, or at least as out in the open as a person admitting to all their crack cocaine use can.

Oddly enough, he truly doesn't know if that is his laptop or not.

Compared to Donny Jr, Hunter Biden is pretty classy at the moment.
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Puppycow · 9th April 2021, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Oddly enough, he truly doesn't know if that is his laptop or not.

He claims not to know.

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Compared to Donny Jr, Hunter Biden is pretty classy at the moment.
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I don't really see the point of making a comparison, but seriously?

(No fan of Don Jr, but "pretty classy" isn't the sort of adjective that springs to mind with regard to Hunter Biden.)

smartcooky · 9th April 2021, 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

(No fan of Don Jr, but "pretty classy" isn't the sort of adjective that springs to mind with regard to Hunter Biden.)

Standing next to Don Jr, even a slippery used car salesman looks classy

Darat · 9th April 2021, 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by smartcooky

Standing next to Don Jr, even a slippery used car salesman looks classy

Wonder if that was why Trump had him bred? So that Trump would look better stood next to him?

timhau · 9th April 2021, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Compared to Donny Jr, Hunter Biden is pretty classy at the moment.
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If Donny Jr. is the standard, my cat just left something classy in the litter box.

Norman Alexander · 9th April 2021, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by timhau

If Donny Jr. is the standard, my cat just left something classy in the litter box.

It should have left Don Jr. instead.

SuburbanTurkey · 9th April 2021, 06:50 AM

I find the fascination with politician's family members pretty gross.

One of the supposed benefits of a Biden admin is that he isn't staffing up the place with his dimwitted spawn like Trump did. There's no reason why the public should have to be familiar with these children of powerful people.

If I never have to hear about the failson Hunter ever again, that would be swell.

Puppycow · 9th April 2021, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

If I never have to hear about the failson Hunter ever again, that would be swell.

Well good luck with that. He's not exactly shying away from the media attention either. He's got a book out and he's doing a media tour (morning TV shows, late night shows). I think the only reason anyone cares is because he's the president's son. I am personally not a fan. I think he has used the fact that his father is a powerful politician to profit for himself. The Burisma thing, for one. Selling his family connection. They paid him something like $80,000 per month for that. Some other dubious business ventures. Now he's selling a book that nobody would buy if his name wasn't Biden.

timhau · 9th April 2021, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

It should have left Don Jr. instead.

Had the litter not absorbed the odor so quickly, I would have checked to be sure he didn't.

dirtywick · 9th April 2021, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

Well good luck with that. He's not exactly shying away from the media attention either. He's got a book out and he's doing a media tour (morning TV shows, late night shows). I think the only reason anyone cares is because he's the president's son. I am personally not a fan. I think he has used the fact that his father is a powerful politician to profit for himself. The Burisma thing, for one. Selling his family connection. They paid him something like $80,000 per month for that. Some other dubious business ventures. Now he's selling a book that nobody would buy if his name wasn't Biden.

To be fair the right wing media aired all his dirty laundry out nationally. That his father is a powerful politician has done him plenty of harm as well.

timhau · 9th April 2021, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by dirtywick

To be fair the right wing media aired all his dirty laundry out nationally. That his father is a powerful politician has done him plenty of harm as well.

The right wing media is actually the direct reason he has the fame to cash in. If it wasn't for that, he'd be as interesting as Chelsea Clinton with a drug habit.

Dr. Keith · 9th April 2021, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

Well good luck with that. He's not exactly shying away from the media attention either. He's got a book out and he's doing a media tour (morning TV shows, late night shows). I think the only reason anyone cares is because he's the president's son. I am personally not a fan. I think he has used the fact that his father is a powerful politician to profit for himself. The Burisma thing, for one. Selling his family connection. They paid him something like $80,000 per month for that. Some other dubious business ventures. Now he's selling a book that nobody would buy if his name wasn't Biden.

Yeah, that goes against everything America holds dear. Especially the GOP.

SuburbanTurkey · 9th April 2021, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Dr. Keith

Yeah, that goes against everything America holds dear. Especially the GOP.

Seems that liberals are going for the over-correction.

You're right that it's pretty laughable to hear the GOP complain about a politician's son cashing in on his proximity to power. It was a pretty lame attack considering their own comfort with corruption, and it notably failed to make much of a splash outside of very right wing media. It certainly wasn't a scandal that seemed to hurt papa Biden much.

That doesn't mean libs have to pretend he's some great guy. He's a failson cashing in on the power of his politician father, there's nothing admirable about that. He's scum, but I guess libs need to pretend he's someone they should care about.

dirtywick · 9th April 2021, 08:21 AM

Well he made some mistakes and I wish him the best in his recovery. That’s the extent of my thoughts on him.

crescent · 9th April 2021, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

That doesn't mean libs have to pretend he's some great guy. He's a failson cashing in on the power of his politician father, there's nothing admirable about that. He's scum, but I guess libs need to pretend he's someone they should care about.

I view it more that they are just being more open about all his issues. It is harder to gain political traction with accusations of nefarious things when that person has already written them up in a book and is discussing it on TV. They can't exactly be accused of brushing this under the carpet.

This preempts some of the criticism and rumors. That has political value.

Dr. Keith · 9th April 2021, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Seems that liberals are going for the over-correction.

You're right that it's pretty laughable to hear the GOP complain about a politician's son cashing in on his proximity to power. It was a pretty lame attack considering their own comfort with corruption, and it notably failed to make much of a splash outside of very right wing media. It certainly wasn't a scandal that seemed to hurt papa Biden much.

That doesn't mean libs have to pretend he's some great guy. He's a failson cashing in on the power of his politician father, there's nothing admirable about that. He's scum, but I guess libs need to pretend he's someone they should care about.

Without the GOP attacks he would not have a book deal. He is drinking their tears and they are crying about it.

SuburbanTurkey · 9th April 2021, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Dr. Keith

Without the GOP attacks he would not have a book deal. He is drinking their tears and they are crying about it.

Who wants to read this dreck? I suppose there's vicarious enjoyment. Inside us all in the desire to smoke crack and **** prostitutes all paid for by a do-nothing job handed to us thanks to our last name.

Dr. Keith · 9th April 2021, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Who wants to read this dreck? I suppose there's vicarious enjoyment. Inside us all in the desire to smoke crack and **** prostitutes all paid for by a do-nothing job handed to us thanks to our last name.

I have no interest, either. But, the GOP picked him out and made him significant. He was just a recovering addict until they decided that he was interesting. And now, some think he is interesting. Ka-ching!

He should really go on Fox News and thank them for his newfound celebrity status and this book deal in particular.

kookbreaker · 9th April 2021, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by timhau

The right wing media is actually the direct reason he has the fame to cash in. If it wasn't for that, he'd be as interesting as Chelsea Clinton with a drug habit.

There already exists a Roger Clinton.

acbytesla · 9th April 2021, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Seems that liberals are going for the over-correction.

You're right that it's pretty laughable to hear the GOP complain about a politician's son cashing in on his proximity to power. It was a pretty lame attack considering their own comfort with corruption, and it notably failed to make much of a splash outside of very right wing media. It certainly wasn't a scandal that seemed to hurt papa Biden much.

That doesn't mean libs have to pretend he's some great guy. He's a failson cashing in on the power of his politician father, there's nothing admirable about that. He's scum, but I guess libs need to pretend he's someone they should care about.

I'm not sure liberals care at all. I'm not saying he's a good guy. But that doesn't make him scum either. It means I don't know and I don't care.

acbytesla · 9th April 2021, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by kookbreaker

There already exists a Roger Clinton.

And a Billy Carter before him.

Puppycow · 9th April 2021, 08:22 PM

Hunter Biden says he has no ‘recollection’ of encounter with ex-stripper whose child he fathered

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In his forthcoming memoir "Beautiful Things," Hunter Biden writes he "has no recollection" of an encounter with an ex-stripper from Arkansas who gave birth to their child in 2018.

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He added: "I'm not proud of it. It's why I would later challenge in court the woman from Arkansas who had a baby in 2018 and claimed the child was mine -- I had no recollection of our encounter. That's how little connection I had with anyone. I was a mess, but a mess I've taken responsibility for."

He "took responsibility" after being ordered to by a judge.

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That Biden was the father of this child was more than a claim by the mother.

Independence County, Ark., Circuit Judge Holly Meyer issued an order in January 2020 establishing that Hunter Biden had fathered the woman's child. The order said that DNA tests made that fact clear.

"[T]he results of the DNA tests indicate with near scientific certainty that the defendant is the biological father of the child in this case," the order said.

Biden remembering little has become a recurring theme as he promotes his book.

Yep. Pretty classy.

acbytesla · 9th April 2021, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

Hunter Biden says he has no ‘recollection’ of encounter with ex-stripper whose child he fathered

He "took responsibility" after being ordered to by a judge.

Yep. Pretty classy.

It does sound unbelievable. When I hear something like this, I find it despicable.

That said, crack cocaine is known to be responsible for memory loss. (This fact doesn't make me believe Hunter) But I do believe we should keep this in mind. I certainly would object to him holding public office thinking his memory loss is mere convenience. But I am reminded he doesn't hold public office.

Puppycow · 9th April 2021, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

It does sound unbelievable. When I hear something like this, I find it despicable.

That said, crack cocaine is known to be responsible for memory loss. (This fact doesn't make me believe Hunter) But I do believe we should keep this in mind. I certainly would object to him holding public office thinking his memory loss is mere convenience. But I am reminded he doesn't hold public office.

Yeah, it does seem rather convenient to me that that he cannot remember whether that computer belongs to him, and cannot remember whether he took it to a repair shop. It smells like selective amnesia. A convenient way to avoid answering awkward questions about the contents of that hard drive.

acbytesla · 9th April 2021, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

Yeah, it does seem rather convenient to me that that he cannot remember whether that computer belongs to him, and cannot remember whether he took it to a repair shop. It smells like selective amnesia. A convenient way to avoid answering awkward questions about the contents of that hard drive.

It ABSOLUTELY does sound like that.

But I've known high functioning heroin addicts and alcoholics. I can't speak informatively about crack. That said, I know people that have had frequent blackouts who couldn't tell you what happened 5 minutes ago let alone yesterday.

From what I understand, his addiction was serious and that seems the point of his book. Still, I'm not buying the book or voting for him. But that says nothing about his dad.

Skeptic Ginger · 9th April 2021, 09:31 PM

By "classy" I meant: 1) compared to Donny Jr who is a conceited boor, and, 2) for admitting all his faults and terrible behavior and cleaning up his act.

Now all that depends on him staying clean and being a dad to his kid. I don't care that the court had to order support, though it is too bad he didn't just volunteer to do the test and accept responsibility without going to court.

I can believe a person getting high, having sex and not remembering it later especially if it was a one-nighter.

I found the interview a counter to the character assassination put out by Trumpers and Fox News. Why should I believe everything Fox News said about him?

And yes I can see that he used his dad's name to get high paying jobs and that he was a serious addict with all that entails. Still, I prefer hearing him talk about himself to anything that came out of the GOP.

BTW, I know more than a few people from my 20s and younger that were serious addicts. Some died and some ended up in jail and/or never getting out of the cycle, at least as of the last time I heard anything about how they were doing. But some of them did make it out and **** it, why should I hold it against them as long as they made any amends they needed to make.

So I am less inclined to give a **** that Hunter was an ******* for a couple decades. What matters is he actually clean and/or will he relapse into the dregs of the incalcitrant addicts?

Puppycow · 10th April 2021, 03:23 AM

I feel like one of the problems with American politics these days is that it's become too tribal.

People who get caught up into the tribal aspect of it feel like they need to reflexively defend the indefensible as long as it's someone "on our side".

The sad fact is that sometimes there are people "on our side" who are not good people, and not everyone on "the other side" is the devil incarnate.

That said, I'm very happy that Trump is no longer president. But, I don't think that means I need to feel warm fuzzies about Hunter Biden because of it.

dirtywick · 10th April 2021, 03:36 AM

Hunter Biden isn't a politician, he isn't on anyone's side. Talking about him is TMZ celebrity gossip

Puppycow · 10th April 2021, 04:02 AM

True, but I didn't start the thread. I'm just reacting to it.

Inasmuch as he's the son of the president and is going on TV to promote his book, I think he's at least as much fair game as Don Jr. or Eric.

dirtywick · 10th April 2021, 05:44 AM

To a certain extent I would agree with that. However, Donnie and Eric were Fox News regulars and heavily involved in the campaign. I don't think Hunter was voluntarily involved in politics or the media to that same degree.

Mumbles · 10th April 2021, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

I feel like one of the problems with American politics these days is that it's become too tribal.

People who get caught up into the tribal aspect of it feel like they need to reflexively defend the indefensible as long as it's someone "on our side".

The sad fact is that sometimes there are people "on our side" who are not good people, and not everyone on "the other side" is the devil incarnate.

That said, I'm very happy that Trump is no longer president. But, I don't think that means I need to feel warm fuzzies about Hunter Biden because of it.

Thing is, Toupee Fiasco's kids were heavily involved in both his (laughably corrupt) business, *and* acted as campaign surrogates as well. If Chelsea Clinton had shown up briefly in 20016 to discuss her mother's charity or some such, I wouldn't care, but I'd say "Yeah, it does seem Hillary did well." Substitute 45 and kids, and the response is the far worse "You mean he helped you rip of veterans?" And of course, he pulled in his also laughably corrupt daughter and son in law (a notorious slumlord in Baltimore) to all sorts of things he had no business being in.

Had the allegations of Hunter using his influence to pay his father billions come from a source I could find credible, *that* would be a serious mark against Biden. Instead, everything we get is from either Rudy Guiliani, who again is absurdly corrupt, or some Russian who ends up being connected directly to the Kremlin, which renders him unimportant for my purposes.

I wish Hunter the best, in a general "wow, you messed up bad, didn't you?" sort of way. As for him profiting from being Joe Biden's son...I mean of course he does. I honestly don't see a path for him to avoid this, or for any other modern child of a president. He's not in the administration, Biden doesn't seem to be leaning directly on any company to give him sweetheart deals, so...yes, t's not "fair" in the usual way.

Life isn't fair. He's connected by birth, like anyone else that get a job via a parent's connections or a neighbor, gets admitted as a legacy into a college/fraternity/etc. I straight don't know what to do about that.

acbytesla · 10th April 2021, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

True, but I didn't start the thread. I'm just reacting to it.

Inasmuch as he's the son of the president and is going on TV to promote his book, I think he's at least as much fair game as Don Jr. or Eric.

I agree. But there is a difference between selling a book about his drug addiction and attacking anyone with a D after their name. But let's be fair, it was Trump and the GOP who made Hunter famous. They have been attacking Hunter for 18 months.

Skeptic Ginger · 10th April 2021, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by dirtywick

Hunter Biden isn't a politician, he isn't on anyone's side. Talking about him is TMZ celebrity gossip

I started the thread because I believe he deserves that people hear the counter to the smear campaign leveled against him for the last ~~year~~ 18 months.

Corrected.

Captain_Swoop · 10th April 2021, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by smartcooky

Standing next to Don Jr, even a slippery used car salesman looks classy

Within reason!

eerok · 11th April 2021, 06:47 AM

I don't have a political interest in Hunter Biden. His only significance in that respect is that obviously the GOP had nothing on Joe, so they were stuck with smearing his son. It's disgusting, but the GOP loves to smear people, and they have no regard for what is true.

Hunter was dragged unwillingly into the limelight, and he has every right to speak out and give his version of himself.

Horatius · 11th April 2021, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

I feel like one of the problems with American politics these days is that it's become too tribal.

People who get caught up into the tribal aspect of it feel like they need to reflexively defend the indefensible as long as it's someone "on our side".

Who here is "defending" what Hunter actually did?

The issue here is that the GOP didn't go after Hunter for what he did. They went out of their way to spin ridiculous tales about him, in the hopes that this would sway enough low-information voters to not vote for his father. That's what we're "defending" him over.

Hunter Biden was a crack addict who profited off his dad's name? Yes, of course, that's an admitted fact that no one disputes. But that wasn't enough for Trump and Co. No, it had to be that Hunter Biden was a crack addict who was making billions betraying America! to the Ukrainians and CHY-na, while also being such a massive pedophile he needed multiple laptops to save all the kiddie porn he not only watched, but created too, while probably being one of those cannibals QAnon were always carrying on about.

This does not compare at all to pointing out how douche-tastic Trump's kids are, while also mentioning the proven-in-court fact that they routinely defrauded charities.

pgwenthold · 11th April 2021, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by Horatius

Who here is "defending" what Hunter actually did?

The issue here is that the GOP didn't go after Hunter for what he did. They went out of their way to spin ridiculous tales about him, in the hopes that this would sway enough low-information voters to not vote for his father. That's what we're "defending" him over.

Hunter Biden was a crack addict who profited off his dad's name? Yes, of course, that's an admitted fact that no one disputes. But that wasn't enough for Trump and Co. No, it had to be that Hunter Biden was a crack addict who was making billions betraying America! to the Ukrainians and CHY-na, while also being such a massive pedophile he needed multiple laptops to save all the kiddie porn he not only watched, but created too, while probably being one of those cannibals QAnon were always carrying on about.

This does not compare at all to pointing out how douche-tastic Trump's kids are, while also mentioning the proven-in-court fact that they routinely defrauded charities.

The irony of Trumpets whining about "kids profiting off their family name" is to the point where it is too stupid to be funny.

But here's my question about the interview: was he ever asked if he brought laptops to a repair shop in Delaware?

I've heard him rambling about how his laptop might have been stolen, but the question is, did he bring it in for repair?

coalesce · 11th April 2021, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Who wants to read this dreck? I suppose there's vicarious enjoyment. Inside us all in the desire to smoke crack and **** prostitutes all paid for by a do-nothing job handed to us thanks to our last name.

You had me with the whole "prostitutes and do-nothing job", but lost me at the "smoking crack" part. Nice work if you can get it.

Skeptic Ginger · 11th April 2021, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by pgwenthold

The irony of Trumpets whining about "kids profiting off their family name" is to the point where it is too stupid to be funny.

But here's my question about the interview: was he ever asked if he brought laptops to a repair shop in Delaware?

I've heard him rambling about how his laptop might have been stolen, but the question is, did he bring it in for repair?

He said he didn't remember anything about the laptop.

Does it matter? It was part of the GOP smear campaign. Nuf said.

pgwenthold · 11th April 2021, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

He said he didn't remember anything about the laptop.

Does it matter? It was part of the GOP smear campaign. Nuf said.

"I don't remember anything about the laptop" does not refute the GOP accusations.

"I never brought a laptop to a repair shop" directly contradicts it.

Why does it matter?

Because it's so simple.

Yes, it was part of GOP smear campaign. But was it wrong? Was there suspicious content on his computer that was confiscated by the FBI?

His response does not answer that question as no.

9th April 2021, 12:57 AM	#2
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 27,888	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Oddly enough, he truly doesn't know if that is his laptop or not. He claims not to know. Quote: Compared to Donny Jr, Hunter Biden is pretty classy at the moment. - I don't really see the point of making a comparison, but seriously? (No fan of Don Jr, but "pretty classy" isn't the sort of adjective that springs to mind with regard to Hunter Biden.)
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smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 23,132	Originally Posted by Puppycow (No fan of Don Jr, but "pretty classy" isn't the sort of adjective that springs to mind with regard to Hunter Biden.) Standing next to Don Jr, even a slippery used car salesman looks classy
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9th April 2021, 03:09 AM	#4
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 108,205	Originally Posted by smartcooky Standing next to Don Jr, even a slippery used car salesman looks classy Wonder if that was why Trump had him bred? So that Trump would look better stood next to him?
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timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: Looks like Finland. Smells like Finland. Quacks like Finland. Where the hell am I? Posts: 15,105	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Compared to Donny Jr, Hunter Biden is pretty classy at the moment. - If Donny Jr. is the standard, my cat just left something classy in the litter box.
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9th April 2021, 06:39 AM	#6
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,280	Originally Posted by timhau If Donny Jr. is the standard, my cat just left something classy in the litter box. It should have left Don Jr. instead.
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9th April 2021, 06:50 AM	#7
SuburbanTurkey Guest Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Null Posts: 15,479	I find the fascination with politician's family members pretty gross. One of the supposed benefits of a Biden admin is that he isn't staffing up the place with his dimwitted spawn like Trump did. There's no reason why the public should have to be familiar with these children of powerful people. If I never have to hear about the failson Hunter ever again, that would be swell.

9th April 2021, 07:35 AM	#8
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 27,888	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey If I never have to hear about the failson Hunter ever again, that would be swell. Well good luck with that. He's not exactly shying away from the media attention either. He's got a book out and he's doing a media tour (morning TV shows, late night shows). I think the only reason anyone cares is because he's the president's son. I am personally not a fan. I think he has used the fact that his father is a powerful politician to profit for himself. The Burisma thing, for one. Selling his family connection. They paid him something like $80,000 per month for that. Some other dubious business ventures. Now he's selling a book that nobody would buy if his name wasn't Biden.
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9th April 2021, 07:40 AM	#9
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: Looks like Finland. Smells like Finland. Quacks like Finland. Where the hell am I? Posts: 15,105	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander It should have left Don Jr. instead. Had the litter not absorbed the odor so quickly, I would have checked to be sure he didn't.
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9th April 2021, 07:55 AM	#10
dirtywick Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,238	Originally Posted by Puppycow Well good luck with that. He's not exactly shying away from the media attention either. He's got a book out and he's doing a media tour (morning TV shows, late night shows). I think the only reason anyone cares is because he's the president's son. I am personally not a fan. I think he has used the fact that his father is a powerful politician to profit for himself. The Burisma thing, for one. Selling his family connection. They paid him something like $80,000 per month for that. Some other dubious business ventures. Now he's selling a book that nobody would buy if his name wasn't Biden. To be fair the right wing media aired all his dirty laundry out nationally. That his father is a powerful politician has done him plenty of harm as well.
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9th April 2021, 08:13 AM	#11
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: Looks like Finland. Smells like Finland. Quacks like Finland. Where the hell am I? Posts: 15,105	Originally Posted by dirtywick To be fair the right wing media aired all his dirty laundry out nationally. That his father is a powerful politician has done him plenty of harm as well. The right wing media is actually the direct reason he has the fame to cash in. If it wasn't for that, he'd be as interesting as Chelsea Clinton with a drug habit.
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9th April 2021, 08:15 AM	#12
Dr. Keith Not a doctor. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 25,552	Originally Posted by Puppycow Well good luck with that. He's not exactly shying away from the media attention either. He's got a book out and he's doing a media tour (morning TV shows, late night shows). I think the only reason anyone cares is because he's the president's son. I am personally not a fan. I think he has used the fact that his father is a powerful politician to profit for himself. The Burisma thing, for one. Selling his family connection. They paid him something like $80,000 per month for that. Some other dubious business ventures. Now he's selling a book that nobody would buy if his name wasn't Biden. Yeah, that goes against everything America holds dear. Especially the GOP.
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9th April 2021, 08:19 AM	#13
SuburbanTurkey Guest Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Null Posts: 15,479	Originally Posted by Dr. Keith Yeah, that goes against everything America holds dear. Especially the GOP. Seems that liberals are going for the over-correction. You're right that it's pretty laughable to hear the GOP complain about a politician's son cashing in on his proximity to power. It was a pretty lame attack considering their own comfort with corruption, and it notably failed to make much of a splash outside of very right wing media. It certainly wasn't a scandal that seemed to hurt papa Biden much. That doesn't mean libs have to pretend he's some great guy. He's a failson cashing in on the power of his politician father, there's nothing admirable about that. He's scum, but I guess libs need to pretend he's someone they should care about.
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9th April 2021, 08:21 AM	#14
dirtywick Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,238	Well he made some mistakes and I wish him the best in his recovery. That’s the extent of my thoughts on him.
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9th April 2021, 09:02 AM	#15
crescent Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,323	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey That doesn't mean libs have to pretend he's some great guy. He's a failson cashing in on the power of his politician father, there's nothing admirable about that. He's scum, but I guess libs need to pretend he's someone they should care about. I view it more that they are just being more open about all his issues. It is harder to gain political traction with accusations of nefarious things when that person has already written them up in a book and is discussing it on TV. They can't exactly be accused of brushing this under the carpet. This preempts some of the criticism and rumors. That has political value.

9th April 2021, 09:37 AM	#16
Dr. Keith Not a doctor. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 25,552	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Seems that liberals are going for the over-correction. You're right that it's pretty laughable to hear the GOP complain about a politician's son cashing in on his proximity to power. It was a pretty lame attack considering their own comfort with corruption, and it notably failed to make much of a splash outside of very right wing media. It certainly wasn't a scandal that seemed to hurt papa Biden much. That doesn't mean libs have to pretend he's some great guy. He's a failson cashing in on the power of his politician father, there's nothing admirable about that. He's scum, but I guess libs need to pretend he's someone they should care about. Without the GOP attacks he would not have a book deal. He is drinking their tears and they are crying about it.
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9th April 2021, 09:39 AM	#17
SuburbanTurkey Guest Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Null Posts: 15,479	Originally Posted by Dr. Keith Without the GOP attacks he would not have a book deal. He is drinking their tears and they are crying about it. Who wants to read this dreck? I suppose there's vicarious enjoyment. Inside us all in the desire to smoke crack and **** prostitutes all paid for by a do-nothing job handed to us thanks to our last name.

9th April 2021, 09:52 AM	#18
Dr. Keith Not a doctor. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 25,552	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Who wants to read this dreck? I suppose there's vicarious enjoyment. Inside us all in the desire to smoke crack and **** prostitutes all paid for by a do-nothing job handed to us thanks to our last name. I have no interest, either. But, the GOP picked him out and made him significant. He was just a recovering addict until they decided that he was interesting. And now, some think he is interesting. Ka-ching! He should really go on Fox News and thank them for his newfound celebrity status and this book deal in particular.
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9th April 2021, 12:46 PM	#19
kookbreaker Evil Fokker Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,388	Originally Posted by timhau The right wing media is actually the direct reason he has the fame to cash in. If it wasn't for that, he'd be as interesting as Chelsea Clinton with a drug habit. There already exists a Roger Clinton.
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9th April 2021, 03:31 PM	#20
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 31,391	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Seems that liberals are going for the over-correction. You're right that it's pretty laughable to hear the GOP complain about a politician's son cashing in on his proximity to power. It was a pretty lame attack considering their own comfort with corruption, and it notably failed to make much of a splash outside of very right wing media. It certainly wasn't a scandal that seemed to hurt papa Biden much. That doesn't mean libs have to pretend he's some great guy. He's a failson cashing in on the power of his politician father, there's nothing admirable about that. He's scum, but I guess libs need to pretend he's someone they should care about. I'm not sure liberals care at all. I'm not saying he's a good guy. But that doesn't make him scum either. It means I don't know and I don't care.
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9th April 2021, 03:32 PM	#21
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 31,391	Originally Posted by kookbreaker There already exists a Roger Clinton. And a Billy Carter before him.
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9th April 2021, 08:22 PM	#22
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 27,888	Hunter Biden says he has no ‘recollection’ of encounter with ex-stripper whose child he fathered Quote: In his forthcoming memoir "Beautiful Things," Hunter Biden writes he "has no recollection" of an encounter with an ex-stripper from Arkansas who gave birth to their child in 2018. Quote: He added: "I'm not proud of it. It's why I would later challenge in court the woman from Arkansas who had a baby in 2018 and claimed the child was mine -- I had no recollection of our encounter. That's how little connection I had with anyone. I was a mess, but a mess I've taken responsibility for." He "took responsibility" after being ordered to by a judge. Quote: That Biden was the father of this child was more than a claim by the mother. Independence County, Ark., Circuit Judge Holly Meyer issued an order in January 2020 establishing that Hunter Biden had fathered the woman's child. The order said that DNA tests made that fact clear. "[T]he results of the DNA tests indicate with near scientific certainty that the defendant is the biological father of the child in this case," the order said. Biden remembering little has become a recurring theme as he promotes his book. Yep. Pretty classy.
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9th April 2021, 08:43 PM	#23
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 31,391	Originally Posted by Puppycow Hunter Biden says he has no ‘recollection’ of encounter with ex-stripper whose child he fathered He "took responsibility" after being ordered to by a judge. Yep. Pretty classy. It does sound unbelievable. When I hear something like this, I find it despicable. That said, crack cocaine is known to be responsible for memory loss. (This fact doesn't make me believe Hunter) But I do believe we should keep this in mind. I certainly would object to him holding public office thinking his memory loss is mere convenience. But I am reminded he doesn't hold public office.
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9th April 2021, 08:56 PM	#24
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 27,888	Originally Posted by acbytesla It does sound unbelievable. When I hear something like this, I find it despicable. That said, crack cocaine is known to be responsible for memory loss. (This fact doesn't make me believe Hunter) But I do believe we should keep this in mind. I certainly would object to him holding public office thinking his memory loss is mere convenience. But I am reminded he doesn't hold public office. Yeah, it does seem rather convenient to me that that he cannot remember whether that computer belongs to him, and cannot remember whether he took it to a repair shop. It smells like selective amnesia. A convenient way to avoid answering awkward questions about the contents of that hard drive.
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9th April 2021, 09:18 PM	#25
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 31,391	Originally Posted by Puppycow Yeah, it does seem rather convenient to me that that he cannot remember whether that computer belongs to him, and cannot remember whether he took it to a repair shop. It smells like selective amnesia. A convenient way to avoid answering awkward questions about the contents of that hard drive. It ABSOLUTELY does sound like that. But I've known high functioning heroin addicts and alcoholics. I can't speak informatively about crack. That said, I know people that have had frequent blackouts who couldn't tell you what happened 5 minutes ago let alone yesterday. From what I understand, his addiction was serious and that seems the point of his book. Still, I'm not buying the book or voting for him. But that says nothing about his dad.
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9th April 2021, 09:31 PM	#26
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 93,416	By "classy" I meant: 1) compared to Donny Jr who is a conceited boor, and, 2) for admitting all his faults and terrible behavior and cleaning up his act. Now all that depends on him staying clean and being a dad to his kid. I don't care that the court had to order support, though it is too bad he didn't just volunteer to do the test and accept responsibility without going to court. I can believe a person getting high, having sex and not remembering it later especially if it was a one-nighter. I found the interview a counter to the character assassination put out by Trumpers and Fox News. Why should I believe everything Fox News said about him? And yes I can see that he used his dad's name to get high paying jobs and that he was a serious addict with all that entails. Still, I prefer hearing him talk about himself to anything that came out of the GOP. BTW, I know more than a few people from my 20s and younger that were serious addicts. Some died and some ended up in jail and/or never getting out of the cycle, at least as of the last time I heard anything about how they were doing. But some of them did make it out and ** it, why should I hold it against them as long as they made any amends they needed to make. So I am less inclined to give a that Hunter was an ***** for a couple decades. What matters is he actually clean and/or will he relapse into the dregs of the incalcitrant addicts?

10th April 2021, 03:23 AM	#27
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 27,888	I feel like one of the problems with American politics these days is that it's become too tribal. People who get caught up into the tribal aspect of it feel like they need to reflexively defend the indefensible as long as it's someone "on our side". The sad fact is that sometimes there are people "on our side" who are not good people, and not everyone on "the other side" is the devil incarnate. That said, I'm very happy that Trump is no longer president. But, I don't think that means I need to feel warm fuzzies about Hunter Biden because of it.
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10th April 2021, 03:36 AM	#28
dirtywick Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,238	Hunter Biden isn't a politician, he isn't on anyone's side. Talking about him is TMZ celebrity gossip
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10th April 2021, 04:02 AM	#29
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 27,888	True, but I didn't start the thread. I'm just reacting to it. Inasmuch as he's the son of the president and is going on TV to promote his book, I think he's at least as much fair game as Don Jr. or Eric.
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10th April 2021, 05:44 AM	#30
dirtywick Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,238	To a certain extent I would agree with that. However, Donnie and Eric were Fox News regulars and heavily involved in the campaign. I don't think Hunter was voluntarily involved in politics or the media to that same degree.
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10th April 2021, 07:48 AM	#31
Mumbles Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,726	Originally Posted by Puppycow I feel like one of the problems with American politics these days is that it's become too tribal. People who get caught up into the tribal aspect of it feel like they need to reflexively defend the indefensible as long as it's someone "on our side". The sad fact is that sometimes there are people "on our side" who are not good people, and not everyone on "the other side" is the devil incarnate. That said, I'm very happy that Trump is no longer president. But, I don't think that means I need to feel warm fuzzies about Hunter Biden because of it. Thing is, Toupee Fiasco's kids were heavily involved in both his (laughably corrupt) business, and acted as campaign surrogates as well. If Chelsea Clinton had shown up briefly in 20016 to discuss her mother's charity or some such, I wouldn't care, but I'd say "Yeah, it does seem Hillary did well." Substitute 45 and kids, and the response is the far worse "You mean he helped you rip of veterans?" And of course, he pulled in his also laughably corrupt daughter and son in law (a notorious slumlord in Baltimore) to all sorts of things he had no business being in. Had the allegations of Hunter using his influence to pay his father billions come from a source I could find credible, that would be a serious mark against Biden. Instead, everything we get is from either Rudy Guiliani, who again is absurdly corrupt, or some Russian who ends up being connected directly to the Kremlin, which renders him unimportant for my purposes. I wish Hunter the best, in a general "wow, you messed up bad, didn't you?" sort of way. As for him profiting from being Joe Biden's son...I mean of course he does. I honestly don't see a path for him to avoid this, or for any other modern child of a president. He's not in the administration, Biden doesn't seem to be leaning directly on any company to give him sweetheart deals, so...yes, t's not "fair" in the usual way. Life isn't fair. He's connected by birth, like anyone else that get a job via a parent's connections or a neighbor, gets admitted as a legacy into a college/fraternity/etc. I straight don't know what to do about that.
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10th April 2021, 12:31 PM	#32
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 31,391	Originally Posted by Puppycow True, but I didn't start the thread. I'm just reacting to it. Inasmuch as he's the son of the president and is going on TV to promote his book, I think he's at least as much fair game as Don Jr. or Eric. I agree. But there is a difference between selling a book about his drug addiction and attacking anyone with a D after their name. But let's be fair, it was Trump and the GOP who made Hunter famous. They have been attacking Hunter for 18 months.
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10th April 2021, 01:57 PM	#33
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 93,416	Originally Posted by dirtywick Hunter Biden isn't a politician, he isn't on anyone's side. Talking about him is TMZ celebrity gossip I started the thread because I believe he deserves that people hear the counter to the smear campaign leveled against him for the last ~~year~~ 18 months. Corrected.
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10th April 2021, 04:01 PM	#34
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 43,373	Originally Posted by smartcooky Standing next to Don Jr, even a slippery used car salesman looks classy Within reason!

11th April 2021, 06:47 AM	#35
eerok Quixoticist Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ON Canada Posts: 5,388	I don't have a political interest in Hunter Biden. His only significance in that respect is that obviously the GOP had nothing on Joe, so they were stuck with smearing his son. It's disgusting, but the GOP loves to smear people, and they have no regard for what is true. Hunter was dragged unwillingly into the limelight, and he has every right to speak out and give his version of himself.
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11th April 2021, 07:54 AM	#36
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 29,675	Originally Posted by Puppycow I feel like one of the problems with American politics these days is that it's become too tribal. People who get caught up into the tribal aspect of it feel like they need to reflexively defend the indefensible as long as it's someone "on our side". Who here is "defending" what Hunter actually did? The issue here is that the GOP didn't go after Hunter for what he did. They went out of their way to spin ridiculous tales about him, in the hopes that this would sway enough low-information voters to not vote for his father. That's what we're "defending" him over. Hunter Biden was a crack addict who profited off his dad's name? Yes, of course, that's an admitted fact that no one disputes. But that wasn't enough for Trump and Co. No, it had to be that Hunter Biden was a crack addict who was making billions betraying *America!* to the Ukrainians and CHY-na, while also being such a massive pedophile he needed multiple laptops to save all the kiddie porn he not only watched, but created too, while probably being one of those cannibals QAnon were always carrying on about. This does not compare at all to pointing out how douche-tastic Trump's kids are, while also mentioning the proven-in-court fact that they routinely defrauded charities.
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