Continuation The Biden Presidency (3)

[dudalb]

Biden is under pressure from both sides of the aisle in COngress to do more for the Ukraine.
He is going to have to come up with something. I suspect he might have a change of heart about the Migs.

[Stacyhs]

Originally Posted by dudalb

Biden is under pressure from both sides of the aisle in COngress to do more for the Ukraine.
He is going to have to come up with something. I suspect he might have a change of heart about the Migs.

It's "Ukraine" not 'the' Ukraine.

[ponderingturtle]

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

It's "Ukraine" not 'the' Ukraine.

It is interesting about what nations are "the"

The United States, but not The Canada. The UAE but not The Israel.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

It is interesting about what nations are "the"

The United States, but not The Canada. The UAE but not The Israel.

And far more importantly, the name of the band is Eagles, not The Eagles.....apparently


edited to add....

In English, perhaps the distinction is whether the first word is an adjective rather than a proper noun ?

The United States, Kingdom, Arab Emirates
The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
The Federated States of Micronesia

On second thoughts, no

The Gambia

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/...-with-the.html

[The Great Zaganza]

The less Biden does on Ukraine, the better - if Russia is repelled that is.

[Delvo]

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

It is interesting about what nations are "the"

The United States, but not The Canada. The UAE but not The Israel.

Originally Posted by The Don

In English, perhaps the distinction is whether the first word is an adjective rather than a proper noun ?

The United States, Kingdom, Arab Emirates
The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
The Federated States of Micronesia

One of two rules at work here is about whether the noun is just a word or a name. In "the United States", "state" is just a word. In "the Union Of Soviet Socialist Republics", "union" is just a word. In "the Netherlands", "lands" is still easy to recognize as just a word even though it's been smushed together with its adjective. In "The Republic of X", "republic" is just a word even though X would be a real name if it were isolated. And an emirate is a political entity ruled by an emir, like a kingdom is ruled by a king.

The other rule is that places that were originally named as geographical things (mountain ranges, rivers, valleys, ecosystems, even places named after a resident human culture) rather than political ones get a "the": the Amazon, the Steppe, the Appalachians, the Sahara, the Rift, the Outback. But later some of these also become political names, in which case they can start to lose the "the", but it doesn't happen suddenly & immediately: the Congo, the Sudan, the Ukraine.

[dudalb]

After that speech and video, pressure will be on Biden.

[Stacyhs]

Originally Posted by dudalb

After that speech and video, pressure will be on Biden.

It isn't now?

[dudalb]

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

It isn't now?

Yes, but it will increase.
And Biden finally called Putin a War Criminal.

[tyr_13]

Originally Posted by pgwenthold

There was a recent poll on "What has Biden done that you agree wit?" and supposedly, "Nothing" was the most popular answer.

I wonder, considering there are republican politicians boasting about how their constituents are going to benefit from some specific aspect of the infrastructure bill, even though they voted against it.

More than half of the country doesn't think the infrastructure bill was a good thing? Yeah, right.

Either they are lying or they are idiots.

Originally Posted by acbytesla

What does that mean? That we should follow the party devoid of answers outside of tax cuts and blaming evey problem on the Democrats? Biden came into office with solutions that have been obstructed by the Republican party and two Democrats.

I agree with citizens who say we're not going in the right direction. We haven't been for 11 years. Presidents without a Congress willing to make changes can do little.

The problem isn't Biden. It's McConnell.

That's kind of the point.

People are paying so little attention that they don't realize that the things they like and want done are often exactly what Biden has been trying to get done or even doing. Some think 'well if they were doing what I want, things would get fixed fast, therefore they must not even be attempting it', not understanding that the reasons some of that isn't done isn't Biden (I have some criticisms of him and some others I find reasonable even if I don't agree with them). More than that, they vastly over-estimate the effectiveness and speed of their ideas.

It doesn't help that the US is so self-absorbed they forget that other places and peoples have agency too, so it's all only the US President not working that is the problem.

[Aridas]

To poke at this -

Quote:

"Thank you to the American people, American states and personally to President Biden ... Really, President Biden ... has done more than all Presidents of United States."

— @AndriyYermak
, Pres. Zelenskyy's chief of staff, on additional U.S. aid and leadership for peace

[dudalb]

The virtual meeting between Biden and XI has started.
Biden cannot afford to be seen as weak. He needs to lay down, calmly but firmly, exact what the consquences will be if Xi supports Putin. And there is plenty the US can do do hurt China ecnomically.
XI can be freinds with the US and Europe, or he can be friends with Putinl He can't have both.

[Tero]

This war is going badly for Republicans. They are all tweeting other stuff. Border security (Bill disguised as fentanyl security is really just border patrol $$) and Keystone XL for oil (if we had started it in Trump II era, it would still not be finished. And the oil is not for cars.) Now, BIDEN CRIME FAMILY claim. Again! It's the laptop thing.
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...42804560195594

[Warp12]

Biden administration endorses transgender youth sex-change operations, 'top surgery,' hormone therapy
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ormone-therapy

Quote:

The HHS documents describe what it calls appropriate treatments for transgender adolescents, including: "'Top' surgery – to create male-typical chest shape or enhance breasts;" and "'Bottom' surgery – surgery on genitals or reproductive organs, facial feminization or other procedures."

Knocking it out of the park!

[SuburbanTurkey]

Originally Posted by Warp12

Biden administration endorses transgender youth sex-change operations, 'top surgery,' hormone therapy
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ormone-therapy




Knocking it out of the park!

This isn't going to bother many people who aren't already right wing freaks.

[Aridas]

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

This isn't going to bother many people who aren't already right wing freaks.

And already primed to be triggered on command.

[Bob001]

Originally Posted by Warp12

Biden administration endorses transgender youth sex-change operations, 'top surgery,' hormone therapy
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ormone-therapy
.....

The administration isn't "endorsing" anything. In a direct response to things like the crazy Texas laws, it is simply affirming that standard science-based medical care is not child abuse.

From your own Fox link:

Quote:

"For transgender and nonbinary children and adolescents, early gender-affirming care is crucial to overall health and well-being as it allows the child or adolescent to focus on social transitions and can increase their confidence while navigating the healthcare system," the NCTSN wrote in their release. "It may include evidence-based interventions such as puberty blockers and gender-affirming hormones."

The NCTSN document goes out of its way to assure the public that the use of gender-affirming methods such as surgery and hormone replacement are not child abuse – most likely in response to recent policy decision in Texas that made such treatments illegal.

[Warp12]

In other good news:

Here's *exactly* why Joe Biden's poll numbers aren't getting better
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/31/polit...ine/index.html

Quote:

A key measure of inflation, the Personal Consumption Expenditures price index, soared 6.4% in February as compared to the same period in 2021. That's the fastest increase for the index since January 1982. That's in keeping with the Consumer Price Index, which was also at its highest level since January 1982 in the 12-month period that ended in February.

Another feather in Biden's cap, no doubt. I wonder how this will impact things come November?

Quote:

As of 2018, the average -- yes, average -- House seat loss for a president's party when that president's job approval was under 50% was 37 seats. If history repeated itself this fall, Republicans would be back in the majority, with a decent cushion to boot.

Things are looking up...in some ways, at least.

[Stacyhs]

Fox News proving Trump was right about Fake News!

Biden:

'In the past year, hundreds of anti-transgender bills in States were proposed across America, most of them targeting transgender kids. The onslaught has continued this year. These bills are wrong,' the president said.

'Efforts to criminalize supportive medical care for transgender kids, to ban transgender children from playing sports, and to outlaw discussing LGBTQI+ people in schools undermine their humanity and corrode our Nation's values.'

[Warp12]

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Fox News proving Trump was right about Fake News!

Biden:

'In the past year, hundreds of anti-transgender bills in States were proposed across America, most of them targeting transgender kids. The onslaught has continued this year. These bills are wrong,' the president said.

'Efforts to criminalize supportive medical care for transgender kids, to ban transgender children from playing sports, and to outlaw discussing LGBTQI+ people in schools undermine their humanity and corrode our Nation's values.'

You must not have read the article.

At any rate, I guess we will see how the popularity for Biden's support of "transgender children" pans out. I don't see hormone therapy and surgery on physically healthy children as part of our "nations values", unlike the Biden administration and some liberal weirdos. And I am far from alone.

[Venom]

I do get nervous at the thought of a transgender assignment for someone below some reasonable level of pubertal development. Maybe this is for another thread.

[Warp12]

Originally Posted by Venom

I do get nervous at the thought of a transgender assignment for someone below some reasonable level of pubertal development. Maybe this is for another thread.

Unfortunately this is a political hot-button, now. When the administration is pushing it so hard, you have to look at the message and the possible ramifications for such policy. We all knew where this was headed when Biden nominated Levine.

So, lets see if this ends up helping or hurting Biden in the polls. I can see Republicans having a field day with it.

[Bob001]

Originally Posted by Warp12

....
Another feather in Biden's cap, no doubt. I wonder how this will impact things come November?
.....

Why don't you tell us what you think Biden, or any President, can do to combat inflation, especially in our current unique post-pandemic circumstances?

[Warp12]

Originally Posted by Bob001

Why don't you tell us what you think Biden, or any President, can do to combat inflation, especially in our current unique post-pandemic circumstances?

That doesn't matter. Tell it to the voters.

[Bob001]

Originally Posted by Warp12

Unfortunately this is a political hot-button, now. When the administration is pushing it so hard, you have to look at the message and the possible ramifications for such policy. We all knew where this was headed when Biden nominated Levine.

So, lets see if this ends up helping or hurting Biden in the polls. I can see Republicans having a field day with it.

The Biden administration is not pushing this hard. It is responding to the people who are pushing it hard, like the Texas governor, who want to lock up parents who seek medical care for their possibly transgender children.

[Aridas]

Originally Posted by Bob001

The Biden administration is not pushing this hard. It is responding to the people who are pushing it hard, like the Texas governor, who want to lock up parents who seek medical care for their possibly transgender children.

This is reminding me of something - 1) Russia actively works to corrupt Ukrainian government and politics. 2) US and much of the rest of Europe acts to counter and uproot corruption once they finally can. 3) Russia and Russia's puppets in the US accuse the people actively working to fight corruption of corruption based on the fact that they're involved with corruption at all.

In this case - 1) The GOP is actively working to harm the US based on unscientific nonsense that's been demonstrated to be harmful. 2) Biden and the Democrats are trying to counter the harm by affirming science and truth. 3) The GOP is accusing Biden and the Democrats of horrors and also of pushing the issue hard based on Biden and the Democrats affirming science and truth.

[Aridas]

Originally Posted by Warp12

That doesn't matter. Tell it to the voters.

Too bad that it wouldn't matter to a heck of a lot of them. Inflation is largely an excuse, rather than a driver, and actually doing something about it, like adopting price controls to limit the blatant profiteering that's driving quite a sizable portion of the inflation, is something that's highly unlikely to happen - in fair part because of the GOP.

[Stacyhs]

Originally Posted by Aridas

This is reminding me of something - 1) Russia actively works to corrupt Ukrainian government and politics. 2) US and much of the rest of Europe acts to counter and uproot corruption once they finally can. 3) Russia and Russia's puppets in the US accuse the people actively working to fight corruption of corruption based on the fact that they're involved with corruption at all.

In this case - 1) The GOP is actively working to harm the US based on unscientific nonsense that's been demonstrated to be harmful. 2) Biden and the Democrats are trying to counter the harm by affirming science and truth. 3) The GOP is accusing Biden and the Democrats of horrors and also of pushing the issue hard based on Biden and the Democrats affirming science and truth.

That sums it up nicely.

[Stacyhs]

Originally Posted by Venom

I do get nervous at the thought of a transgender assignment for someone below some reasonable level of pubertal development. Maybe this is for another thread.

From Politifact:

Quote:

• Professional medical organizations recommend against puberty blockers for children who have not reached puberty, which typically begins between ages 10 and 12.

• Hormone treatment for feminization or masculinization of the body is typically not considered until patients are at least 16 years old.

• Gender reassignment surgery is typically only available to those 18 and older in the United States.

All this crap coming from the right-wing scare mongers is just that: crap. So business as usual.

[Venom]

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

From Politifact:

All this crap coming from the right-wing scare mongers is just that: crap. So business as usual.

thanks.

[Joecool]

Originally Posted by dudalb

The virtual meeting between Biden and XI has started.
Biden cannot afford to be seen as weak. He needs to lay down, calmly but firmly, exact what the consquences will be if Xi supports Putin. And there is plenty the US can do do hurt China ecnomically.
XI can be freinds with the US and Europe, or he can be friends with Putinl He can't have both.

Too late. After Joke Biden botched the Afghanistan withdrawal, Putin moved his troops to the Ukraine border a few months after. Of course having the Taliban push Joke Biden around probably encouraged Putin to get aggressive.

You guys can pound on Trump all you want but there was peace under Trump and his energy policy had the US gas prices very stable and reasonable.\

Joke Biden changed all of that on his first day in office.

[Delvo]

Transgender medical procedures and their availability have never been something I've thought of investigating much, but my immediate thought on those three points is that they would have been pretty distressing if I had wanted to be female (and were young enough for the age question to be applicable). By the time I was 16, I was thoroughly stocky & dense. People asked me why I didn't play football, and presumed I was weightlifting although I wasn't, and so on. That's already too late to do a transition and end up anything like a cis-woman; the result would have just been a classic example of those unsuccessful transitions that just end up looking like cross-dressing men. There's just no way to be able to count on getting the right results without starting the transition sooner than that or at least blocking to buy some time... which of course means being able to even make that decision that young...

[Aridas]

Originally Posted by Joecool

Too late. After Joke Biden botched the Afghanistan withdrawal, Putin moved his troops to the Ukraine border a few months after. Of course having the Taliban push Joke Biden around probably encouraged Putin to get aggressive.

You guys can pound on Trump all you want but there was peace under Trump and his energy policy had the US gas prices very stable and reasonable.\

Joke Biden changed all of that on his first day in office.

Ahh, the joys of faith goggles.

[Joecool]

Originally Posted by Aridas

Ahh, the joys of faith goggles.

No actual facts to dispel anything. LOL

[Aridas]

Originally Posted by Joecool

No actual facts to dispel anything. LOL

What would be the point? You're pretty clearly showing that you're not actually interested in facts and would actively resist being swayed by them.

For example, "There was peace under Trump" is a half-assed truth, at best. The Russia/Ukraine relationship is NOT dependent on the US. Still, it is possible that Putin would have continued to delay invading Ukraine for a bit longer had Trump remained in office - specifically with the expectation of Trump either getting the US out of NATO or breaking NATO entirely, which would remove the main obstacle in Putin's path to trying to conquer a whole bunch more. As it was, Trump just kept ending the treaties that restrained Russia's aggression. Just as likely, though, Putin would have invaded when he did anyways, on the day that Ukraine was disconnecting from Russia's power grid. Trump? Trump would have been just as likely to use US military intelligence to AID Russia, given his track record. He definitely would have been using his bully pulpit to excuse and try to give cover to Putin, again, given his track record of doing exactly that. As for Trump's energy policy, that's opening up another whole can of rotten worms. Trump repeatedly and actively sought to raise energy prices for consumers, for example, by trying to demand that coal be used even if it was wildly more expensive. He repeatedly worked to drive the price of oil up in a bunch of ways. That "he" had limited overall effect was not for lack of trying. Compare him to Biden? Biden's been dealt a crap hand in comparison. You want to harp on, for example, Keystone XL Pipeline? That would have done NOTHING for our energy prices. We don't use the products that it would have been used for in the first place!

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Originally Posted by Joecool

No actual facts to dispel anything. LOL

Trump's Peace deal,with the Taliban was a disaster like Neville Chamberlin and Hitler. Trump negotiations from a weak position ment the people of Afghanistan didn't respect or fight for the Afgan Government against the Taliban. The Afghans knew Trump sold them out just like he did the Kurds a year or so earlier. But again that's why Putin had Trump Installed into the White House in 2016!

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Originally Posted by Aridas

What would be the point? You're pretty clearly showing that you're not actually interested in facts and would actively resist being swayed by them.

For example, "There was peace under Trump" is a half-assed truth, at best. The Russia/Ukraine relationship is NOT dependent on the US. Still, it is possible that Putin would have continued to delay invading Ukraine for a bit longer had Trump remained in office - specifically with the expectation of Trump either getting the US out of NATO or breaking NATO entirely, which would remove the main obstacle in Putin's path to trying to conquer a whole bunch more. As it was, Trump just kept ending the treaties that restrained Russia's aggression. Just as likely, though, Putin would have invaded when he did anyways, on the day that Ukraine was disconnecting from Russia's power grid. Trump? Trump would have been just as likely to use US military intelligence to AID Russia, given his track record. He definitely would have been using his bully pulpit to excuse and try to give cover to Putin, again, given his track record of doing exactly that. As for Trump's energy policy, that's opening up another whole can of rotten worms. Trump repeatedly and actively sought to raise energy prices for consumers, for example, by trying to demand that coal be used even if it was wildly more expensive. He repeatedly worked to drive the price of oil up in a bunch of ways. That "he" had limited overall effect was not for lack of trying. Compare him to Biden? Biden's been dealt a crap hand in comparison. You want to harp on, for example, Keystone XL Pipeline? That would have done NOTHING for our energy prices. We don't use the products that it would have been used for in the first place!

Trump was installed by Putin, he wouldn't have moved against Ukraine as long as his Useful idiot was in the White House.

[Aridas]

Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw

Trump was installed by Putin, he wouldn't have moved against Ukraine as long as his Useful idiot was in the White House.

That's very far from certain. As long as Putin could look forward to Trump doing notable things to pave Putin's way for future invasion, that's an understandable stance, though. However, there's only so much more that Trump could do on that front.

[Stacyhs]

Originally Posted by Aridas

Ahh, the joys of faith goggles.

What can we expect when this is how they see Trump



when he really looks like this:

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Originally Posted by Aridas

That's very far from certain. As long as Putin could look forward to Trump doing notable things to pave Putin's way for future invasion, that's an understandable stance, though. However, there's only so much more that Trump could do on that front.

Putin was going to try to get Trump to arrange a peace deal in the Donbass Region, so that putin would gain access to Crimea via a land bridge, in return Ukraine would be granted Natural gas and other cookies from Russia, as long as they didn't enter NATO.
When Biden Won that was now Impossible, so Putin Invaded Trying to take by Force what his Puppet could no longer do.