Alien Visitation Contact Proof - Page 31

RecoveringYuppy · 14th August 2022, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by MBDK

One important aspect here, in relation to any supposed alien visitation, is that type of drive requires a gaseous medium in which to operate. This severely limits your travel opportunities through interstellar space, to say the least.

Right, that was the original point out I was addressing. I pointed out that ion drives in an atmosphere would be based on different techniques than those used in space.

MBDK · 14th August 2022, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy

Right, that was the original point out I was addressing. I pointed out that ion drives in an atmosphere would be based on different techniques than those used in space.

Okay. I see that now. Sometimes the quagmire of certain posts (not yours) can impact my initial interpretation of others down the line. Keep me straight.

ETA: That's because there is too much homo sapien in me to prevent the natural course of human errors. I'll be sure to ask for a double dose of alien DNA upon my next abduction.

sackett · 14th August 2022, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Mojo

That has a certain je ne sais quoi, but I don’t know what it means.

"I seed all winds." Saw that 1.6 generations ago on a reproduction of an old French ad poster for a literary journal. The expression (actually w/ vent singular, but I said it was a long time ago) is colloquial in France; look it up in good old P'tit LaRousse. The image frequently associated with it is of a late Belle Époque fairy maid blowing on a ripe dandelion head, metaphorically spreading the umbrellas of knowledge to all the world. The version I saw featured her with a luscious O! mouth and delicate little headlights.

Re: fruitcake. My little gems go free gratis for nothing. Cheap at the price, nu?

RecoveringYuppy · 14th August 2022, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by MBDK

Okay. I see that now. Sometimes the quagmire of certain posts (not yours) can impact my initial interpretation of others down the line. Keep me straight.

No problem. This particular tangent has been buried at least twice now.

MBDK · 14th August 2022, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy

No problem. This particular tangent has been buried at least twice now.

Now if we could just get the OP to stay in that same grave. I will cede the refusal to die a natural death could be evidence for immortality.

Steve · 14th August 2022, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by MBDK

Now if we could just get the OP to stay in that same grave. I will cede the refusal to die a natural death could be evidence for immortality.

Hmmm... wonder what the lifespan of a typical alien is?

Jack by the hedge · 14th August 2022, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

Hmmm... wonder what the lifespan of a typical alien is?

Don't know, but bats are remarkably long-lived for their size. I'm not suggesting bats and aliens are literally the same thing, only that some folk have trouble telling them apart.

bruto · 14th August 2022, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

They are everywhere. There is no escape. Our intrepid and knowledgeable OP has advised us to be very afraid.

I'm more afraid of the skeeters. They really do dig their probes in!

stanfr · 14th August 2022, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by Olmstead

I'm not sure if you're joking? We've gone over this a hundred times. The last light is literally his light. He even provided pictures of it and admitted that the shadows match the ones cast by his light.

There was a routine automatic test of the circuit after the power outage, and some of the lights came on for a moment.

His response is that he is the smartest, and he knows that there was no way for the lights to come back for a moment.

My bad, must have missed that post, I only came to this after it was 20+ pages so i skipped a few.

Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge

That light comes on briefly just after the flash of the aborted mains reconnection. The shadows it casts on the plant pots seem to match the shadows present when the lights are on before the power cut, though it's very much dimmer.

I infer it's one of the existing lights, which receives just enough energy into its power supply from the attempt to reinstate the mains that the energy discharges as a low intensity glow from the light.

The OP showed us a picture of an LED light fitting under the eaves of his house, pointing directly down so far as I could see, out of shot to the left from the camera's viewpoint. That seems to be the perfect candidate.

OK, well then seems pretty well covered then, I don't really see anything else unusual that needs a better explanantion than 'aliens'

cjdelphi · 14th August 2022, 08:43 PM

Nice to see a bunch of ignorant people come up with an ignorant explanation to keep you feeling safe and sound out night

Your fear and ridicule and is pathetic anything but accept the truth only an idiot thinks that's my bulb or a power out a bunch of old skeptica who can't see clearly giving bad explanations lmao

This is just one huge orgy, metaphorically speaking

I'm signing out this is too uneducated too stupid and too blind you're all cleary too old to see the the video properly

MBDK · 14th August 2022, 09:29 PM

NOW we've done it! We've got the poor child to stutter.

Or, maybe that's an eventuality for all abductionists.*

*I can make completely unfounded guesses, too.

stanfr · 14th August 2022, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by cjdelphi

Nice to see a bunch of ignorant people come up with an ignorant explanation to keep you feeling safe and sound out night

Your fear and ridicule and is pathetic anything but accept the truth only an idiot thinks that's my bulb or a power out a bunch of old skeptica who can't see clearly giving bad explanations lmao

This is just one huge orgy, metaphorically speaking

I'm signing out this is too uneducated too stupid and too blind you're all cleary too old to see the the video properly

I actually age-regressed under hypnosis just so I could view the video through the eyes of a seven year old, back when my favorite TV show was "UFO" (cause I liked Straker's car) and this video looks just as unconvincing to my 7 yr old self.

Pixel42 · 14th August 2022, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by cjdelphi

Nice to see a bunch of ignorant people come up with an ignorant explanation to keep you feeling safe and sound out night

There's nothing nice about ignorant people coming up with ignorant (albeit highly imaginative) explanations of perfectly mundane and understandable occurrences in order to make themselves feel special and superior. The fact that so many people can emotionally invest in obviously preposterous beliefs to this extent does not make me feel safe and sound, it makes me fear for the future of humanity. This particular preposterous belief may be harmless, but many others are not.

stanfr · 14th August 2022, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Pixel42

There's nothing nice about ignorant people coming up with ignorant (albeit highly imaginative) explanations of perfectly mundane and understandable occurrences in order to make themselves feel special and superior. The fact that so many people can emotionally invest in obviously preposterous beliefs to this extent does not make me feel safe and sound, it makes me fear for the future of humanity. This particular preposterous belief may be harmless, but many others are not.

That is very true, although in this case I am not sure it is a simple case of poor reasoning skills or narcissistic behavior; the OP's behavior here exhibits more than a few classic symptoms of schizophrenia. I do hope he has the support of family or friends.

JimOfAllTrades · 14th August 2022, 11:39 PM

Brave Sir Robin ran away!

Jack by the hedge · 15th August 2022, 12:58 AM

Well it was a flounce long on "you're all poopy heads" and short on defending "aliens dunnit" so I think there's a chance daylight is beginning to break through.

Mojo · 15th August 2022, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by cjdelphi

you're all cleary too old to see the the video properly

cjdelphi seems very concerned about Presbyopia.

Originally Posted by cjdelphi

What's your age? Do have glasses to see close up? .

I wonder why.

Originally Posted by cjdelphi

But you might be right, I'm 41 and my close up vision is not what it was, it's still good but I'm losing the ability to read almost microscopic part numbers from surface mount chips these days

Craig4 · 15th August 2022, 02:02 AM

Originally Posted by cjdelphi

Nice to see a bunch of ignorant people come up with an ignorant explanation to keep you feeling safe and sound out night

Your fear and ridicule and is pathetic anything but accept the truth only an idiot thinks that's my bulb or a power out a bunch of old skeptica who can't see clearly giving bad explanations lmao

This is just one huge orgy, metaphorically speaking

I'm signing out this is too uneducated too stupid and too blind you're all cleary too old to see the the video properly

When reason raised its ugly head he quickly turned away and fled
Brave, brave Sir Delphi.

Jack by the hedge · 15th August 2022, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by Mojo

cjdelphi seems very concerned about Presbyopia.

I wonder why.

When I couldn't read the text on tiny surface mount components any more I got several pairs of +3 reading glasses off eBay for pennies. It's not flying saucer science.

Crossbow · 15th August 2022, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by cjdelphi

Nice to see a bunch of ignorant people come up with an ignorant explanation to keep you feeling safe and sound out night

Your fear and ridicule and is pathetic anything but accept the truth only an idiot thinks that's my bulb or a power out a bunch of old skeptica who can't see clearly giving bad explanations lmao

This is just one huge orgy, metaphorically speaking

I'm signing out this is too uneducated too stupid and too blind you're all cleary too old to see the the video properly

Well then, ...

If this is the case, then publish your data elsewhere and see what happens then.

Jack by the hedge · 15th August 2022, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by Crossbow

Well then, ...

If this is the case, then publish your data elsewhere and see what happens then.

Needs to strike a balance, to find a place that eagerly accepts aliens walk among us, yet not so unhinged they insist Australia is a round-earther hoax.

Gamolon · 15th August 2022, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Crossbow

Well then, ...

If this is the case, then publish your data elsewhere and see what happens then.

Oh it's been posted elsewhere all right.

About 6 or 7 other forums. All ends up the same way though.

Mojo · 15th August 2022, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Crossbow

Well then, ...

If this is the case, then publish your data elsewhere and see what happens then.

If only he hadn’t allowed the original data to be recorded over.

Crossbow · 15th August 2022, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Gamolon

Oh it's been posted elsewhere all right.

About 6 or 7 other forums. All ends up the same way though.

Thanks much for the additional data.

And your additional data just goes to show that even if someone is able to distribute his crap information over a wide audience, then that someone has still nothing but distribute crap information.

Carrot Flower King · 15th August 2022, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Gamolon

Oh it's been posted elsewhere all right.

About 6 or 7 other forums. All ends up the same way though.

What? Folk picked him up on details he didn't understand? Folk resorted to mockery and ridicule? I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

Jack by the hedge · 15th August 2022, 11:20 AM

Now I'm curious again. If he spammed the same material on so many sites, surely we can't be the only place where someone pointed out his other video has even worse timestamp jitters than his "aliens" one. On reflection he didn't act surprised when that news came out.

My recollection is he just ignored it, except that early on he said something about maybe copying the aliens video directly off the card whereas the others used some app that comes with the camera and which uploads stuff to a server in China then sends you the video file.

That smells a bit of "I know the story has big holes in it but dammit I'm telling it anyway".

sts60 · 15th August 2022, 11:37 AM

I never really understood his insistence on the “ion drive” thing. An ion drive works by hurling ions out at great speed, in a collimated beam, to provide thrust. If a spaceship is hovering over the ground using an ion drive, it’s throwing out enough ions to provide thrust equal to its weight. That’s literally what a rocket is.

Rockets can use compressed nitrogen, water (like the fun pump-up water rocket toys), combustion products (i.e., the vast majority of rockets), charged particles (like ion drives), plasma (like VASIMR), or anything else that throws stuff in the opposite of the direction you want to go. If you mount Ma Deuce in the back of your spaceship and pull the trigger, you would have the Fifty Caliber Machine Gun Drive.

Ion drives are low-thrust and high-efficiency by nature, and are excellent for interplanetary applications that can accommodate leisurely maneuvers. You could build something to let you maneuver down near the ground, but it would be as inconspicuous as Thor whirling Mjolnir to smite his homicidal elder sister. And it would make a mess of anything it was hovering over.

That’s the inescapable physical nature of how it works. Ion drives aren’t magic, which is why I suggested to the OP that he invoke something like antigravity, which could accommodate his observations rather than contradict them. But he wasn’t willing to learn. Pity.

Jack by the hedge · 15th August 2022, 11:44 AM

He was unironically prescriptive about the technologies he had decided his advanced aliens would use while berating us for not grasping how far beyond our imagining their technology would be. That was funny.

Jack by the hedge · 15th August 2022, 11:52 AM

Plus of course the corollary that he felt he could eliminate all known causes as they are not known to cause that specific audio glitch in cheap recorders, therefore the explanation had to be something whose properties are utterly unknown except that it definitely causes that sound.

It rather made me wish I had somehow kept a library of all the ticks, clicks, buzzes, echoes, zaps, squeaks, hoots etc I've tried to stop audio devices making over the years. Alas not.

junkshop · 15th August 2022, 12:47 PM

My favourite was the responses the OP got on Eletrician Talk.

Carrot Flower King · 15th August 2022, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by junkshop

My favourite was the responses the OP got on Eletrician Talk.

Do you think he mighht have started to get the message that he is talking a load of old bollocks?

junkshop · 15th August 2022, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King

Do you think he mighht have started to get the message that he is talking a load of old bollocks?

Oh God, no. He'll never see disagreement with his beliefs as anything other than evidence of the extent of the coverup. He'd gone way too far down the rabbit hole long before we met him.

Olmstead · 15th August 2022, 01:04 PM

Edit: wrong thread.

bruto · 15th August 2022, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by sts60

I never really understood his insistence on the “ion drive” thing. An ion drive works by hurling ions out at great speed, in a collimated beam, to provide thrust. If a spaceship is hovering over the ground using an ion drive, it’s throwing out enough ions to provide thrust equal to its weight. That’s literally what a rocket is.

Rockets can use compressed nitrogen, water (like the fun pump-up water rocket toys), combustion products (i.e., the vast majority of rockets), charged particles (like ion drives), plasma (like VASIMR), or anything else that throws stuff in the opposite of the direction you want to go. If you mount Ma Deuce in the back of your spaceship and pull the trigger, you would have the Fifty Caliber Machine Gun Drive.

Ion drives are low-thrust and high-efficiency by nature, and are excellent for interplanetary applications that can accommodate leisurely maneuvers. You could build something to let you maneuver down near the ground, but it would be as inconspicuous as Thor whirling Mjolnir to smite his homicidal elder sister. And it would make a mess of anything it was hovering over.

That’s the inescapable physical nature of how it works. Ion drives aren’t magic, which is why I suggested to the OP that he invoke something like antigravity, which could accommodate his observations rather than contradict them. But he wasn’t willing to learn. Pity.

Posted, we presume, from your usual position of utter ignorance. I mean, what are you, a rocket scientist or something?

8enotto · 15th August 2022, 02:08 PM

OP did mention he was honing his argument from our responses so maybe next round he does suggest antigravity drive or suspension of some sort.

It won't stop whomever the next lucky forum is from slowly destroying his case as he slowly reveals details.

I am always amazed at the ability of this crew to make claims touch reality. Also in the way the MA brings out our creative writing skills.

Jack by the hedge · 15th August 2022, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by junkshop

My favourite was the responses the OP got on Eletrician Talk.

Oh dear. That's rather sad. He talked it up here as if the electricians he'd found agreed with him. They were steadfastly taking the piss.

MBDK · 15th August 2022, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by junkshop

My favourite was the responses the OP got on Eletrician Talk.

That is very funny. The complete ridicule he received there makes his time here a comparative "safe space".

Jack by the hedge · 15th August 2022, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by MBDK

That is very funny. The complete ridicule he received there makes his time here a comparative "safe space".

I see that. Look at how many pages he lasted here because people actually engaged with the nonsense instead of just mocking it.

junkshop · 15th August 2022, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge

I see that. Look at how many pages he lasted here because people actually engaged with the nonsense instead of just mocking it.

Turns out we're actually quite nice*.

Who'da thunkit?

*_sometimes.

Mojo · 15th August 2022, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by junkshop

My favourite was the responses the OP got on Eletrician Talk.

Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge

Oh dear. That's rather sad. He talked it up here as if the electricians he'd found agreed with him. They were steadfastly taking the piss.

He actually linked to it.

14th August 2022, 01:49 PM	#1202
MBDK Muse Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 545	Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy Right, that was the original point out I was addressing. I pointed out that ion drives in an atmosphere would be based on different techniques than those used in space. Okay. I see that now. Sometimes the quagmire of certain posts (not yours) can impact my initial interpretation of others down the line. Keep me straight. ETA: That's because there is too much homo sapien in me to prevent the natural course of human errors. I'll be sure to ask for a double dose of alien DNA upon my next abduction.
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14th August 2022, 01:52 PM	#1203
sackett Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 8,302	Originally Posted by Mojo That has a certain je ne sais quoi, but I don’t know what it means. "I seed all winds." Saw that 1.6 generations ago on a reproduction of an old French ad poster for a literary journal. The expression (actually w/ vent singular, but I said it was a long time ago) is colloquial in France; look it up in good old P'tit LaRousse. The image frequently associated with it is of a late Belle Époque fairy maid blowing on a ripe dandelion head, metaphorically spreading the umbrellas of knowledge to all the world. The version I saw featured her with a luscious O! mouth and delicate little headlights. Re: fruitcake. My little gems go free gratis for nothing. Cheap at the price, nu?
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14th August 2022, 02:58 PM	#1205
MBDK Muse Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 545	Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy No problem. This particular tangent has been buried at least twice now. Now if we could just get the OP to stay in that same grave. I will cede the refusal to die a natural death could be evidence for immortality.
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14th August 2022, 03:00 PM	#1206
Steve Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney Nova Scotia Posts: 12,175	Originally Posted by MBDK Now if we could just get the OP to stay in that same grave. I will cede the refusal to die a natural death could be evidence for immortality. Hmmm... wonder what the lifespan of a typical alien is?
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14th August 2022, 03:50 PM	#1208
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 34,197	Originally Posted by Steve They are everywhere. There is no escape. Our intrepid and knowledgeable OP has advised us to be very afraid. I'm more afraid of the skeeters. They really do dig their probes in!
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14th August 2022, 12:19 PM	#1201
RecoveringYuppy Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 14,185	Originally Posted by MBDK One important aspect here, in relation to any supposed alien visitation, is that type of drive requires a gaseous medium in which to operate. This severely limits your travel opportunities through interstellar space, to say the least. Right, that was the original point out I was addressing. I pointed out that ion drives in an atmosphere would be based on different techniques than those used in space.

14th August 2022, 02:38 PM	#1204
RecoveringYuppy Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 14,185	Originally Posted by MBDK Okay. I see that now. Sometimes the quagmire of certain posts (not yours) can impact my initial interpretation of others down the line. Keep me straight. No problem. This particular tangent has been buried at least twice now.

14th August 2022, 03:46 PM	#1207
Jack by the hedge Safely Ignored Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14,383	Originally Posted by Steve Hmmm... wonder what the lifespan of a typical alien is? Don't know, but bats are remarkably long-lived for their size. I'm not suggesting bats and aliens are literally the same thing, only that some folk have trouble telling them apart.

14th August 2022, 07:56 PM	#1209
stanfr Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,259	Originally Posted by Olmstead I'm not sure if you're joking? We've gone over this a hundred times. The last light is literally his light. He even provided pictures of it and admitted that the shadows match the ones cast by his light. There was a routine automatic test of the circuit after the power outage, and some of the lights came on for a moment. His response is that he is the smartest, and he knows that there was no way for the lights to come back for a moment. My bad, must have missed that post, I only came to this after it was 20+ pages so i skipped a few. Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge That light comes on briefly just after the flash of the aborted mains reconnection. The shadows it casts on the plant pots seem to match the shadows present when the lights are on before the power cut, though it's very much dimmer. I infer it's one of the existing lights, which receives just enough energy into its power supply from the attempt to reinstate the mains that the energy discharges as a low intensity glow from the light. The OP showed us a picture of an LED light fitting under the eaves of his house, pointing directly down so far as I could see, out of shot to the left from the camera's viewpoint. That seems to be the perfect candidate. OK, well then seems pretty well covered then, I don't really see anything else unusual that needs a better explanantion than 'aliens'
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14th August 2022, 08:43 PM	#1210
cjdelphi Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2022 Posts: 455	Nice to see a bunch of ignorant people come up with an ignorant explanation to keep you feeling safe and sound out night Your fear and ridicule and is pathetic anything but accept the truth only an idiot thinks that's my bulb or a power out a bunch of old skeptica who can't see clearly giving bad explanations lmao This is just one huge orgy, metaphorically speaking I'm signing out this is too uneducated too stupid and too blind you're all cleary too old to see the the video properly
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14th August 2022, 09:29 PM	#1211
MBDK Muse Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 545	NOW we've done it! We've got the poor child to stutter. Or, maybe that's an eventuality for all abductionists.* *I can make completely unfounded guesses, too.
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14th August 2022, 09:48 PM	#1212
stanfr Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,259	Originally Posted by cjdelphi Nice to see a bunch of ignorant people come up with an ignorant explanation to keep you feeling safe and sound out night Your fear and ridicule and is pathetic anything but accept the truth only an idiot thinks that's my bulb or a power out a bunch of old skeptica who can't see clearly giving bad explanations lmao This is just one huge orgy, metaphorically speaking I'm signing out this is too uneducated too stupid and too blind you're all cleary too old to see the the video properly I actually age-regressed under hypnosis just so I could view the video through the eyes of a seven year old, back when my favorite TV show was "UFO" (cause I liked Straker's car) and this video looks just as unconvincing to my 7 yr old self.
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14th August 2022, 10:03 PM	#1213
Pixel42 Schrödinger's cat Join Date: May 2004 Location: Malmesbury, UK Posts: 15,294	Originally Posted by cjdelphi Nice to see a bunch of ignorant people come up with an ignorant explanation to keep you feeling safe and sound out night There's nothing nice about ignorant people coming up with ignorant (albeit highly imaginative) explanations of perfectly mundane and understandable occurrences in order to make themselves feel special and superior. The fact that so many people can emotionally invest in obviously preposterous beliefs to this extent does not make me feel safe and sound, it makes me fear for the future of humanity. This particular preposterous belief may be harmless, but many others are not.
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14th August 2022, 10:22 PM	#1214
stanfr Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,259	Originally Posted by Pixel42 There's nothing nice about ignorant people coming up with ignorant (albeit highly imaginative) explanations of perfectly mundane and understandable occurrences in order to make themselves feel special and superior. The fact that so many people can emotionally invest in obviously preposterous beliefs to this extent does not make me feel safe and sound, it makes me fear for the future of humanity. This particular preposterous belief may be harmless, but many others are not. That is very true, although in this case I am not sure it is a simple case of poor reasoning skills or narcissistic behavior; the OP's behavior here exhibits more than a few classic symptoms of schizophrenia. I do hope he has the support of family or friends.
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14th August 2022, 11:39 PM	#1215
JimOfAllTrades Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,031	Brave Sir Robin ran away!

15th August 2022, 12:58 AM	#1216
Jack by the hedge Safely Ignored Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14,383	Well it was a flounce long on "you're all poopy heads" and short on defending "aliens dunnit" so I think there's a chance daylight is beginning to break through.

15th August 2022, 01:18 AM	#1217
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 36,838	Originally Posted by cjdelphi you're all cleary too old to see the the video properly cjdelphi seems very concerned about Presbyopia. Originally Posted by cjdelphi What's your age? Do have glasses to see close up? . I wonder why. Originally Posted by cjdelphi But you might be right, I'm 41 and my close up vision is not what it was, it's still good but I'm losing the ability to read almost microscopic part numbers from surface mount chips these days
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15th August 2022, 02:02 AM	#1218
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 26,736	Originally Posted by cjdelphi Nice to see a bunch of ignorant people come up with an ignorant explanation to keep you feeling safe and sound out night Your fear and ridicule and is pathetic anything but accept the truth only an idiot thinks that's my bulb or a power out a bunch of old skeptica who can't see clearly giving bad explanations lmao This is just one huge orgy, metaphorically speaking I'm signing out this is too uneducated too stupid and too blind you're all cleary too old to see the the video properly When reason raised its ugly head he quickly turned away and fled Brave, brave Sir Delphi.
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15th August 2022, 02:28 AM	#1219
Jack by the hedge Safely Ignored Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14,383	Originally Posted by Mojo cjdelphi seems very concerned about Presbyopia. I wonder why. When I couldn't read the text on tiny surface mount components any more I got several pairs of +3 reading glasses off eBay for pennies. It's not flying saucer science.

15th August 2022, 07:14 AM	#1220
Crossbow Seeking Honesty and Sanity Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Charleston, WV Posts: 14,419	Originally Posted by cjdelphi Nice to see a bunch of ignorant people come up with an ignorant explanation to keep you feeling safe and sound out night Your fear and ridicule and is pathetic anything but accept the truth only an idiot thinks that's my bulb or a power out a bunch of old skeptica who can't see clearly giving bad explanations lmao This is just one huge orgy, metaphorically speaking I'm signing out this is too uneducated too stupid and too blind you're all cleary too old to see the the video properly Well then, ... If this is the case, then publish your data elsewhere and see what happens then.
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15th August 2022, 07:29 AM	#1221
Jack by the hedge Safely Ignored Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14,383	Originally Posted by Crossbow Well then, ... If this is the case, then publish your data elsewhere and see what happens then. Needs to strike a balance, to find a place that eagerly accepts aliens walk among us, yet not so unhinged they insist Australia is a round-earther hoax.

15th August 2022, 10:10 AM	#1222
Gamolon Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,680	Originally Posted by Crossbow Well then, ... If this is the case, then publish your data elsewhere and see what happens then. Oh it's been posted elsewhere all right. About 6 or 7 other forums. All ends up the same way though.
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15th August 2022, 10:26 AM	#1223
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 36,838	Originally Posted by Crossbow Well then, ... If this is the case, then publish your data elsewhere and see what happens then. If only he hadn’t allowed the original data to be recorded over.
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15th August 2022, 10:40 AM	#1224
Crossbow Seeking Honesty and Sanity Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Charleston, WV Posts: 14,419	Originally Posted by Gamolon Oh it's been posted elsewhere all right. About 6 or 7 other forums. All ends up the same way though. Thanks much for the additional data. And your additional data just goes to show that even if someone is able to distribute his crap information over a wide audience, then that someone has still nothing but distribute crap information.
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15th August 2022, 10:48 AM	#1225
Carrot Flower King Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 3,598	Originally Posted by Gamolon Oh it's been posted elsewhere all right. About 6 or 7 other forums. All ends up the same way though. What? Folk picked him up on details he didn't understand? Folk resorted to mockery and ridicule? I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

15th August 2022, 11:20 AM	#1226
Jack by the hedge Safely Ignored Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14,383	Now I'm curious again. If he spammed the same material on so many sites, surely we can't be the only place where someone pointed out his other video has even worse timestamp jitters than his "aliens" one. On reflection he didn't act surprised when that news came out. My recollection is he just ignored it, except that early on he said something about maybe copying the aliens video directly off the card whereas the others used some app that comes with the camera and which uploads stuff to a server in China then sends you the video file. That smells a bit of "I know the story has big holes in it but dammit I'm telling it anyway".

15th August 2022, 11:37 AM	#1227
sts60 Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,053	I never really understood his insistence on the “ion drive” thing. An ion drive works by hurling ions out at great speed, in a collimated beam, to provide thrust. If a spaceship is hovering over the ground using an ion drive, it’s throwing out enough ions to provide thrust equal to its weight. That’s literally what a rocket is. Rockets can use compressed nitrogen, water (like the fun pump-up water rocket toys), combustion products (i.e., the vast majority of rockets), charged particles (like ion drives), plasma (like VASIMR), or anything else that throws stuff in the opposite of the direction you want to go. If you mount Ma Deuce in the back of your spaceship and pull the trigger, you would have the Fifty Caliber Machine Gun Drive. Ion drives are low-thrust and high-efficiency by nature, and are excellent for interplanetary applications that can accommodate leisurely maneuvers. You could build something to let you maneuver down near the ground, but it would be as inconspicuous as Thor whirling Mjolnir to smite his homicidal elder sister. And it would make a mess of anything it was hovering over. That’s the inescapable physical nature of how it works. Ion drives aren’t magic, which is why I suggested to the OP that he invoke something like antigravity, which could accommodate his observations rather than contradict them. But he wasn’t willing to learn. Pity.
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15th August 2022, 11:44 AM	#1228
Jack by the hedge Safely Ignored Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14,383	He was unironically prescriptive about the technologies he had decided his advanced aliens would use while berating us for not grasping how far beyond our imagining their technology would be. That was funny.

15th August 2022, 11:52 AM	#1229
Jack by the hedge Safely Ignored Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14,383	Plus of course the corollary that he felt he could eliminate all known causes as they are not known to cause that specific audio glitch in cheap recorders, therefore the explanation had to be something whose properties are utterly unknown except that it definitely causes that sound. It rather made me wish I had somehow kept a library of all the ticks, clicks, buzzes, echoes, zaps, squeaks, hoots etc I've tried to stop audio devices making over the years. Alas not.

15th August 2022, 12:47 PM	#1230
junkshop Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: in the kitchen Posts: 1,521	My favourite was the responses the OP got on Eletrician Talk.
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15th August 2022, 12:52 PM	#1231
Carrot Flower King Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 3,598	Originally Posted by junkshop My favourite was the responses the OP got on Eletrician Talk. Do you think he mighht have started to get the message that he is talking a load of old bollocks?

15th August 2022, 01:04 PM	#1232
junkshop Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: in the kitchen Posts: 1,521	Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King Do you think he mighht have started to get the message that he is talking a load of old bollocks? Oh God, no. He'll never see disagreement with his beliefs as anything other than evidence of the extent of the coverup. He'd gone way too far down the rabbit hole long before we met him.
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15th August 2022, 01:04 PM	#1233
Olmstead Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,396	Edit: wrong thread.

15th August 2022, 01:27 PM	#1234
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 34,197	Originally Posted by sts60 I never really understood his insistence on the “ion drive” thing. An ion drive works by hurling ions out at great speed, in a collimated beam, to provide thrust. If a spaceship is hovering over the ground using an ion drive, it’s throwing out enough ions to provide thrust equal to its weight. That’s literally what a rocket is. Rockets can use compressed nitrogen, water (like the fun pump-up water rocket toys), combustion products (i.e., the vast majority of rockets), charged particles (like ion drives), plasma (like VASIMR), or anything else that throws stuff in the opposite of the direction you want to go. If you mount Ma Deuce in the back of your spaceship and pull the trigger, you would have the Fifty Caliber Machine Gun Drive. Ion drives are low-thrust and high-efficiency by nature, and are excellent for interplanetary applications that can accommodate leisurely maneuvers. You could build something to let you maneuver down near the ground, but it would be as inconspicuous as Thor whirling Mjolnir to smite his homicidal elder sister. And it would make a mess of anything it was hovering over. That’s the inescapable physical nature of how it works. Ion drives aren’t magic, which is why I suggested to the OP that he invoke something like antigravity, which could accommodate his observations rather than contradict them. But he wasn’t willing to learn. Pity. Posted, we presume, from your usual position of utter ignorance. I mean, what are you, a rocket scientist or something?
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15th August 2022, 02:08 PM	#1235
8enotto Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Mexico Posts: 2,785	OP did mention he was honing his argument from our responses so maybe next round he does suggest antigravity drive or suspension of some sort. It won't stop whomever the next lucky forum is from slowly destroying his case as he slowly reveals details. I am always amazed at the ability of this crew to make claims touch reality. Also in the way the MA brings out our creative writing skills.