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25th May 2018, 04:16 PM | #1 |
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Unidentified canid shot by Montana farmer
We have a cryptid, folks!
According to several news reports the taxonomy of a predator shot by a farmer in Montana, aside from being "canid", cannot be determined visually. At first glance it might seem to be a wolf, but its fur and the size and shape of several physical features are wrong. DNA tests are currently underway to pin down its identification. |
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25th May 2018, 05:26 PM | #2 |
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Denton, Montana is outside of the general distribution range for wolves in that state. This could be an unusual feral domestic dog. The head looks like a dog but the ears are unusually large. It might be a coyote dog hybrid. The color is like a wolf but it doesn't seem to have wolf characteristics.
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25th May 2018, 05:35 PM | #3 |
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I'll place my bet on 100% coyote with the uncommon "black" coloration.
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25th May 2018, 05:50 PM | #4 |
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25th May 2018, 06:43 PM | #5 |
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25th May 2018, 07:29 PM | #7 |
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Here it is on the truck tailgate. I don't see why this is too large for coyote.
https://www.wkyc.com/img/resize/cont...750&height=422 |
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25th May 2018, 07:42 PM | #8 |
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Coyote wolf hybrids are pretty common in the East, so why not there too? "Coy wolves" can get pretty big.
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25th May 2018, 09:01 PM | #9 |
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That is not a modern hybridization in the United States. The wolf doesn't exist in the eastern USA. Some do exist in Ontario and Quebec.
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As far as I can see, what makes this animal different and confusing is the coloration. Putting that aside, there are no apparent physical features that suggest something other than a normal coyote. Montana state wildlife officials looked at the same photos we see. They suggest "not a wolf", but they don't say "not a coyote". Melanistic coyotes do exist. Though they are uncommon, they primarily are found in the southeast USA, but can occur elsewhere. The melanistic coloration ranges from dark brown all the way to black. You can Google "melanistic coyote" to see photos of animals that look much like the one that was shot in Montana. |
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25th May 2018, 09:07 PM | #10 |
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I just attended a wildlife lecture! They had a good slide pointing out differences between wolves and coyotes. The ears and nose shape on this one do indeed look more like the coyote.
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25th May 2018, 09:07 PM | #11 |
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It's my understanding that melanistic coyotes occur largely as a result of breeding with dogs.
I would bet the critter in question is a yote/dog hybrid. |
25th May 2018, 09:40 PM | #12 |
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Coy-dog or coyote.
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25th May 2018, 10:07 PM | #13 |
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Never having met a wolf or a coyote, much to my disappointment, could it not just be a peculiar looking feral dog?
There's a huge amount of random variations among dogs |
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26th May 2018, 04:57 AM | #14 |
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People do get that the D&D/Game of Thrones "Dire Wolf" isn't/wasn't a real creature, right?
The actual real extinct species Canis dirus was about the same size as a modern wolf. The jaw was just structured larger to account for the larger prey animals available at the time. |
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26th May 2018, 05:16 AM | #15 |
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It's a dog
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26th May 2018, 06:17 AM | #16 |
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My money would be on Coyote for sure
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26th May 2018, 10:30 AM | #17 |
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IT'S BIGFOOT!!!!!
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26th May 2018, 11:48 AM | #18 |
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Did it drop any ear rings?
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26th May 2018, 02:54 PM | #19 |
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I'm going with coyote or coyote-dog hybrid (coydog). The bigger picture here though is how this incident only "proves" further there is no Bigfoot.
When some odd or unique animal shows up and humans see it, what do they usually want to do to it first? Kill it, beat it, capture it, divorce it, something it so they gain total control over it. And taking a picture is rarely their first reaction it seems. Even in this case, where's the pictures of it before its death? And such and such and so and so and thus there is no Bigfoot because humans would have shot and killed one long before now had they existed, just like in this case. We simply can't help it. We're imperfect and unbalanced and capricious and stupid and selfish and...and we always gotta kill. |
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26th May 2018, 05:40 PM | #20 |
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Long haired German Shepard mostly.
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26th May 2018, 06:18 PM | #21 |
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Coyote? Only if there are ACME crates in the vicinity.
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26th May 2018, 09:22 PM | #22 |
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I'm just curious now how many syllables you all think there are in "coyote". Because I know how many there are in Montana.
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26th May 2018, 09:31 PM | #23 |
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Apparently according to BBC there is speculation that it could be related to "Bigfoot" . I mean 'werewolf' is enough of a stretch, but c'mon.
I think it's some race of dog. |
27th May 2018, 12:06 AM | #24 |
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27th May 2018, 12:11 AM | #25 |
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I know what it is!
Wait a second...for some reason there's a black helicopter hovering over my house and a couple of black SUVs with dark tinted windows just pulled into my driveway. Hmmmm...loud knocking at my door...wonder who it is? I'll just answer the door and be right back to tell you all what that mysterious dog-like creature really is........ . . . . (sound of door breaking, muffled shouts, tires screeching, and revving motors fading into the distance) |
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27th May 2018, 04:15 AM | #27 |
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Not at all large ears for a long-haired (or "coated") Alsatian (d.b.a. "German Shepherd" in USA). There's a darker version of the coated branch of the tree that doesn't have all that lovely chestnut brown. And the size of the beast is in keeping with a coated alsatian. A friend of mine had one in Montreal they're magnificent. (RIP Sonny - great dog!)
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27th May 2018, 04:20 AM | #28 |
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Oops. Hadn't seen this. I concur. Well, except for the spelling.
Here's a link to an article that has some pics of one (or several) with the darker markings. http://www.total-german-shepherd.com...nShepherd.html Is that sheep country? Having a big old out-bred (for strength) shepherd makes sense. It was either feral, a shepherd/wolf mix, or the dood just shot Sirr Muffin of Twelve Oaks, the neighbor's prize show dog. |
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27th May 2018, 06:46 AM | #29 |
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Could it be Elvis?
(Sorry, I keep reading the threat title as "Unidentified candid shot...") |
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27th May 2018, 07:54 AM | #30 |
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Depends on context. One, two, or three syllables.
Normally, two syllables: Kie-oat. Properly, three syllables: Kie-oh-tee. When talking to a varmint hunter, one syllable: 'yote. When speaking to law enforcement about the folks who facilitate the transport of undocumented foreign born workers, three syllables: Coy-yoh-tae. |
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It's obviously a chupacabra.
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27th May 2018, 11:39 AM | #32 |
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"This looks like a dog/canine hybrid but we absolutely don't know what it is!"
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27th May 2018, 12:17 PM | #33 |
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I'm not sure why this is under such speculation. It simply appears to be a large, dead, dog. The ears do not look unnaturally large. I've seen many German Shepherds with ears that large.
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27th May 2018, 12:51 PM | #34 |
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It's an official cryptid, the story made it to Coast to Coast.
Experts Baffled by Strange Wolf-Life Creature Shot and Killed in Montana Official Montana wildlife dept statement. |
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I keep wondering if they scanned it for a microchip.
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This can't be any kind of cryptic, the picture isn't blurry.
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28th May 2018, 10:33 AM | #38 |
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It's the Loch Ness Monster!
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