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Old 15th August 2018, 04:02 PM   #41
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He should drink Schmidt Beer, be able to talk about the '92 World Series, Kirby Puckett's game six home run, Jack Morris' gem in game seven, and of course Chuck Knoblauch's decoy throw to freeze Lonnie Smith and save the run...
'91 World Series you mean. Definitely one of the greatest game sevens of all time--right up there with 1960, 1975, and 2001.
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Old 15th August 2018, 04:07 PM   #42
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This could be a glorious trainwreck come November. If more evidence comes out, liberals may have to choose between #winning and #metoo.
Keep in mind that it's for state AG, not a crucial spot.
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Old 15th August 2018, 09:21 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by Drewbot View Post
He should drink Schmidt Beer, be able to talk about the '92 World Series, Kirby Puckett's game six home run, Jack Morris' gem in game seven, and of course Chuck Knoblauch's decoy throw to freeze Lonnie Smith and save the run...
As they'd say up in Fargo.... "I'm thinking yer not from 'round here, are ya?"


Ellison is a Muslim. And Schmidt's beer has been out of business for decades.
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Old 16th August 2018, 05:33 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
As they'd say up in Fargo.... "I'm thinking yer not from 'round here, are ya?"


Ellison is a Muslim. And Schmidt's beer has been out of business for decades.
And was based out of Philadelphia.
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Old 16th August 2018, 10:34 AM   #45
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Hamms was the big, Minnesota made beer.
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Old 16th August 2018, 10:36 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by Brainster View Post
Keep in mind that it's for state AG, not a crucial spot.
But it could gain national...and international attention...if it's gets nasty.
And I am afraid that the GOP will go after Ellison because of his religion.
It's not like using bigotry as a weapon is unknown to the new GOP.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
But it could gain national...and international attention...if it's gets nasty.
And I am afraid that the GOP will go after Ellison because of his religion.
It's not like using bigotry as a weapon is unknown to the new GOP.
Yes, they'll go after his religion, I am sure. After all it's not like he's got any other skeletons in his closet. Well, other than the one we are discussing. But I don't think the GOP can spend the next two months talking about Ellison beating up a woman. It would be tacky.
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Yes, they'll go after his religion, I am sure. After all it's not like he's got any other skeletons in his closet. Well, other than the one we are discussing. But I don't think the GOP can spend the next two months talking about Ellison beating up a woman. It would be tacky.
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If the wife beating charges against Ellison are true, then I hope the Dems in Minnesota demand that he resign and wipe their hands of him. I won't be a hypocrite on this issue.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
If the wife beating charges against Ellison are true, then I hope the Dems in Minnesota demand that he resign and wipe their hands of him. I won't be a hypocrite on this issue.
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Originally Posted by d4m10n View Post
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Originally Posted by kookbreaker View Post
And was based out of Philadelphia.
Pesky damned apostrophe s. Schmidt's was from Philly. Schmidt was from Minneapolis.

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Hamms was the big, Minnesota made beer.
Yeah, Schmidt actually worked for Hamms. (But Schmidt was the one mentioned.) It matters not. By the time I discovered 'em they both tasted like Miller Lite.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
If the wife beating charges against Ellison are true, then I hope the Dems in Minnesota demand that he resign and wipe their hands of him. I won't be a hypocrite on this issue.

The ex-girlfriend (not wife) has now described on camera what she says is the assault and she says she has the video. Starting to look like more than gossip.
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/...ex-girlfriend/
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The ex-girlfriend (not wife) has now described on camera what she says is the assault and she says she has the video. Starting to look like more than gossip.
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/...ex-girlfriend/
Yep! The DFL needs to "not confirm" him and put forth another candidate. I think the second place vote getter is an old party hand and if they act immediately, they might save the position. If they dawdle they could impact the whole election. They're favored to win the Governor's Mansion but if seen to be circling the wagons, they could easily lose. MN is about as purple a state as you can find.
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Until, and if, she produces the video I neither believe nor disbelieve her. Claiming she has it, but will not produce it, is still suspicious to me. A man's career hangs in the balance on that video.
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Until, and if, she produces the video I neither believe nor disbelieve her. Claiming she has it, but will not produce it, is still suspicious to me. A man's career hangs in the balance on that video.
I guess that's where I am, although to be honest I generally dislike videos of domestic violence.

Still, while a tape would be entirely disqualifying on it's face, and it sounds like there are other people willing to back up the victim's story, the DA position is important enough for law enforcement reform that I'd rather have had it come out before a primary.

In the end, if it's true, the entire blame falls on Ellison, for putting the ex in this position to begin with, for running for office knowing what he did, and so forth.
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"Sen. Franken is scheduled to speak tomorrow. I think he will do the right thing and resign."
-- Keith Ellison (Dec 6, 2017)
That was back when we all believed that if Franken resigned, Trump would have to resign.

Now that we know that will never happen, we need to stop the witch hunts before they claim Ellison, too.
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I guess that's where I am, although to be honest I generally dislike videos of domestic violence.

Still, while a tape would be entirely disqualifying on it's face, and it sounds like there are other people willing to back up the victim's story, the DA position is important enough for law enforcement reform that I'd rather have had it come out before a primary.

In the end, if it's true, the entire blame falls on Ellison, for putting the ex in this position to begin with, for running for office knowing what he did, and so forth.
I don't have to see the video myself. If it's shown to credible journalists and/or law enforcement and they report that it does show domestic abuse, then he should drop out of the race.

I'm just suspicious of the timing and that no other woman has come forward to claim abuse as in the cases of others who were fired/forced to resign. It's just far too easy for one woman to make an accusation without evidence and everyone is supposed to believe her without question. I can't help but think of the Duke lacrosse team.
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FOr Trump supporters to claim the moral high ground when it comes to issues like this is beyond silly.
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FOr Trump supporters to claim the moral high ground when it comes to issues like this is beyond silly.
More imaginary tea parties, dudalb? Nobody is claiming the moral high ground here, unless it's you.
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FOr Trump supporters to claim the moral high ground when it comes to issues like this is beyond silly.
No doubt about that! Not when...what is it?... nineteen women came forward with claims of sexual harassment, etc. I wonder how his promised lawsuit against them is coming along?

The GOP: the party of "family values".
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Next time a GOPer talks about how "character matters" in a Political Candidate to blast a Dem, I will laugh right in their face.
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Next time a GOPer talks about how "character matters" in a Political Candidate to blast a Dem, I will laugh right in their face.
When was the last time you had a face to face conversation with a GOPer?

Who exactly are you hoping to impress with these pronouncements? Are you concerned that your fellow progressives doubt your ideological purity? Are you hoping to intimidate conservatives with your threat of laughter?

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FOr Trump supporters to claim the moral high ground when it comes to issues like this is beyond silly.
We could talk about Ellison's support for cop-killers; I suppose there we would have the moral high ground. It's actually more relevant to his planned job as the top law enforcement official in Minnesota.

But you know how it is; that sort of stuff is actually a qualification for the job among Democrats. Domestic violence is supposedly the kind of thing they frown upon.
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Next time a GOPer talks about how "character matters" in a Political Candidate to blast a Dem, I will laugh right in their face.
Indeed. Dems have been proving Republicans wrong about the importance of character for years. They finally surrendered.
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I don't find this woman to be credible, she seem either deceptive or mentally ill to me.

NY Times - A Broken Relationship and Accusations of Emotional Abuse: The Case of Keith Ellison

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Ms. Monahan claimed to have a cellphone video of the incident, but has so far declined to make it available to reporters. She told CNN that she misplaced it, but wrote on Facebook that she would not provide it because victims should not be forced to prove their claims. Shortly after she made the allegation, Ms. Monahan called the police and alleged that her computer had been hacked and “that email conversations between her and Ellison have been randomly deleted off of her laptop,” according to the police report.

Ms. Monahan said that after the alleged incident, she borrowed money to pay the deposit on her own place, but did not consider the relationship to be over until January 2017, when she discovered text messages on Mr. Ellison’s phone to two other women.
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About a year after the breakup, Ms. Monahan sent an email to Ms. Hurtado, accusing her of stealing Mr. Ellison’s affections.

“Your desires, and how you acted on those desires, in this whole situation had nothing to do with Keith’s wellbeing,” Ms. Monahan wrote. “You thought of your needs, what you wanted, your desires, and it didn’t matter who you hurt.”
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We could talk about Ellison's support for cop-killers; I suppose there we would have the moral high ground.
Because the cop killers right wingers support are white? Cuz if you want, we can talk about the mainstream Republican party's cozy relationship with anti-government militias and other sorts of "very fine people"
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Because the cop killers right wingers support are white? Cuz if you want, we can talk about the mainstream Republican party's cozy relationship with anti-government militias and other sorts of "very fine people"
Thank goodness everybody's been holding back on talking about that! I do have to admire the restraint.
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Ellison's daughter doesn't seem to put much stock in the accusations:

https://www.facebook.com/amirah.elli...16952176467802
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"You have the right to be believed, and we're with you," quoting Clinton."
So applecorped you will be calling on Trump to step down, after all you should believe the nearly 20 women who accused him of sexual misconduct, shouldn't you?
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I've never actually eaten the stuff, but I understand it's made from spoiled fish and lye. How could it possibly taste good?
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Thank goodness everybody's been holding back on talking about that! I do have to admire the restraint.
I realize this was a failed attempt at sarcasm, but that is actually true. The relationships the GOP has nurtured with right wing domestic terrorist groups have gone largely under reported.
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I always ignore stuff like this until evidence actually becomes available, an arrest is made, etc.
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