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Old 14th July 2019, 08:05 PM   #161
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Perhaps she merely overcame her fish background by dint of rigorous deportment and elocution lessons? Yes, perhaps Ariel was a graduate of a dolphinishing school.
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Old 14th July 2019, 08:46 PM   #162
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Perhaps she merely overcame her fish background by dint of rigorous deportment and elocution lessons? Yes, perhaps Ariel was a graduate of a dolphinishing school.
Pfffft! This entire thread is just one big phishing expedition!
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Well you can still discuss fictional rules. Just not cross-franchise.
Yes, if you cross the franchises all life as we know it will end and every molecule in our bodies explode at the speed of light.
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Isn't this cultural appropriation by black people? Seems to be a lot of it going on - black Ancient Greek heroes, Julius Caesars, Medieval European royalty etc'.
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Old 15th July 2019, 08:44 AM   #165
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Originally Posted by IsThisTheLife View Post
Isn't this cultural appropriation by black people? Seems to be a lot of it going on - black Ancient Greek heroes, Julius Caesars, Medieval European royalty etc'.
*Very slowly* Mermaids... don't.... exist.
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Old 15th July 2019, 08:48 AM   #166
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
*Very slowly* Mermaids... don't.... exist.
They exist in European mythology (ETA >> and hence European culture and story-telling).
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Old 15th July 2019, 08:52 AM   #167
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I have no dog in the race.

I just don't like seeing my childhood shows getting rewritten to appease the politically correct base.
Yeah but in this case does it alter the character in any significant way? I mean if the next James Bond works for the Australian secret service I could see your point, but skin colour in this particular instance? Who cares?
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Old 15th July 2019, 08:59 AM   #168
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Originally Posted by IsThisTheLife View Post
They exist in European mythology (ETA >> and hence European culture and story-telling).
I feel like "who cares?" is the appropriate response. They aren't real. If there were evidence that Merpeople were white, then I'd be in agreement. There isn't, because they're fake. I would also hold this opinion if Pinocchio were changed to black. This happens in comics ad nauseum and the same people whining for that are the same people whining about this. Captain America is black now....dun dun dun! How will we go on?!?!!?
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
*Very slowly* Mermaids... don't.... exist.
...... but if they did........
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...... but if they did........
I would think that "if they did" they'd have merpeople of every color just like our civilization. They'd like in different climates (closer to the surface, deeper in the surface, some even sit on land in some tales) and that would cause them to have different shades. Seems almost common senseish.
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You can't special plead a "what if they really existed" on a biologically impossible creature.
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Old 15th July 2019, 09:19 AM   #172
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Forget skin color, what about blood color? Perhaps mermaids have blue blood like horseshoe crabs!
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Old 15th July 2019, 09:20 AM   #173
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I heard from a very credible source that the fact that Ariel is African American proves that not Poseidon, but Black Manta is her real father.
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Old 15th July 2019, 09:27 AM   #174
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
I heard from a very credible source that the fact that Ariel is African American proves that not Poseidon, but Black Manta is her real father.
You realize what you are suggesting here??

That would ONLY be possible if Disney also bought the DC franchise. What horrors would await us then?
Best never to mention that again.

On the other hand,dark skinned merpeople make perfect sense, most of the ocean is dark, so it's good camouflage.
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You realize what you are suggesting here??

That would ONLY be possible if Disney also bought the DC franchise. What horrors would await us then?
Best never to mention that again.
It's going to happen. Walt's ghost demands it.

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On the other hand,dark skinned merpeople make perfect sense, most of the ocean is dark, so it's good camouflage.
Black back, white belly.
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Isn't this cultural appropriation by black people? Seems to be a lot of it going on - black Ancient Greek heroes, Julius Caesars, Medieval European royalty etc'.
No.
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Originally Posted by IsThisTheLife View Post
They exist in European mythology (ETA >> and hence European culture and story-telling).
But not exclusively.


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Mermaids are just what Manatees look like to horny, delirious sailors.
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Ariel isn't a manatee mistaken for a hot chick by a sad, desperate, lonely, incredibly drunk sailor. As a former sailor I protest this act of cultural vandalism.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Mermaids are just what Manatees look like to horny, delirious sailors.
Okay... that was creepy in the timing.
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Old 15th July 2019, 09:53 AM   #181
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*Very slowly* Mermaids... don't.... exist.
Of course they do! Would Animal Planet lie to me?
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Of course they do! Would Animal Planet lie to me?
Would you believe I actually liked that special? And the dragon one as well. It was perfectly find speculative fiction, the science being so soft you could spread it toast not withstanding.
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Mermaids are just what Manatees look like to horny, delirious sailors.
Manatees or womanatees, depending on the preferences of the sailor in question.
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Manatees or womanatees, depending on the preferences of the sailor in question.
To use the wise words of the Bishop of Bath and Wells:
"Animal, Mineral or Vegetable - I do anything to anything.
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I wouldn't touch a merwhateva myself. No matter what hue they'll all have crabs.
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Herman Melville described Manatees as seen in foggy weather, from a distance or in murky water. He said they look remarkably human in those conditions.
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Herman Melville described Manatees as seen in foggy weather, from a distance or in murky water. He said they look remarkably human in those conditions.
I actually legit wonder if the "manatee" thing was ever actually literally true or it was just a running gag that got turned into "They were being super-serious guys I mean it" by people that really, really need to think everyone in the past was super stupid and gullible.

As I wonder if this really did sort of begin and end with two European sailors in the new world looking over the side of their ship and one going "Ya know Ted... from up hear those sea cows look almost... ya know" *makes hourglass with is hand.* and his buddy going "Yeah I'm sure you'd bang one if given the chance."
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I actually legit wonder if the "manatee" thing was ever actually literally true or it was just a running gag that got turned into "They were being super-serious guys I mean it" by people that really, really need to think everyone in the past was super stupid and gullible.

As I wonder if this really did sort of begin and end with two European sailors in the new world looking over the side of their ship and one going "Ya know Ted... from up hear those sea cows look almost... ya know" *makes hourglass with is hand.* and his buddy going "Yeah I'm sure you'd bang one if given the chance."
People in the past were incredibly stupid and massively wise. Show some damn respect!
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
I actually legit wonder if the "manatee" thing was ever actually literally true or it was just a running gag that got turned into "They were being super-serious guys I mean it" by people that really, really need to think everyone in the past was super stupid and gullible.

As I wonder if this really did sort of begin and end with two European sailors in the new world looking over the side of their ship and one going "Ya know Ted... from up hear those sea cows look almost... ya know" *makes hourglass with is hand.* and his buddy going "Yeah I'm sure you'd bang one if given the chance."
I think it would have happened earlier than that: dugongs were known of from much earlier in history.
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Racists Hunger Games fans are very disappointed

This was from a few years back. The book describes both characters as having dark skin. Reading comprehension fail. Also based on Twitter outrage, but then there's counter-outrage based on the tweets. So, something for everyone.
Even if the books had described her as being so white she glowed and could be seen from orbit, those are absolutely nauseating comments.
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At least according to the Wiki, the ending is slightly more uplifting than that.
That's a pretty good set-up for a sequel. The year is 2150. Ariel has been hardened by three hundred years of service to intransigent humanity, or what's left of it. She's got a ghost eye patch and she smokes ghost cigars. And she's two weeks away from retirement when King Pallas attacks the last remaining human cities. And now she's got a new partner, and it's the ghost of Abraham Lincoln who is possessing an animatronic Abraham Lincoln. Also The Beatles never existed, but The Rutles did. That never comes up it's just a fun fact about this world.
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Wow! If the racist degenerates are unhappy about this, I can imagine what their response will be to this bit of news (if it bears out: )

"Congratulations are in order for Lashana Lynch!

According to The Mail on Sunday, the 31-year-old actress will play 007 in the new James Bond film.

While Daniel Craig will reprise his role as Bond in the upcoming (and currently untitled) movie, Lynch will come in as a new secret agent and take over his famous codename."


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(Though I have a feeling that this should have its own thread...)
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I wouldn't touch a merwhateva myself. No matter what hue they'll all have crabs.
That's just shellfishist. Clearly they would have "cleaner shrimp".
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Yes, if you cross the franchises all life as we know it will end and every molecule in our bodies explode at the speed of light.
That's bad. Okay. All right, good safety tip. Thanks P.J.
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Yeah but in this case does it alter the character in any significant way? I mean if the next James Bond works for the Australian secret service I could see your point, but skin colour in this particular instance? Who cares?
You jinxed it!
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Yeah but in this case does it alter the character in any significant way? I mean if the next James Bond works for the Australian secret service I could see your point, but skin colour in this particular instance? Who cares?
Greek gods, reference to Atlantis, her white skin, among others.

Just.....It annoys me when they mess with stories, even fictional.
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Greek gods, reference to Atlantis, her white skin, among others.

Just.....It annoys me when they mess with stories, even fictional.
Oh for the...

*Deep breath* In the original Hans Christian Anderson story the Little Mermaid wants to be human because mermaids don't have souls and can't go to heaven, so she visit the Sea Witch who cuts out her tongue in exchange for a pair of legs, goes ashore, meets up with the Prince, but the after the wedding she has doubts so the Sea Witch asks the Little Mermaids sisters to take her a knife which will allow her to turn back into a mermaid if she kills the Prince, but she can't bring herself to do it so she throws herself into the sea to die, but is resurrected as... Spawn basically and as the story ends she is told she will be allowed into heaven if she spends the next 300 years doing good deeds for mankind.

*Beat*

But don't make her black!
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Originally Posted by IsThisTheLife View Post
They exist in European mythology (ETA >> and hence European culture and story-telling).
That doesn't mean that they're white.
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Originally Posted by Venom View Post
Greek gods, reference to Atlantis, her white skin, among others.

Just.....It annoys me when they mess with stories, even fictional.
Then you must ******* hate Disney.
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Originally Posted by Cheetah View Post
You jinxed it!
I can't believe some people are up in arms about this. If Bond's retired, of course the 007 number is going to go to someone else. Are they saying that it can't be a woman?

Originally Posted by Venom View Post
Greek gods, reference to Atlantis, her white skin, among others.
Greek gods were white, now? Atlanteans were white?

Sorry, Shaft's skin colour is relevant to his character, not the mermaid's.
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