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Old 12th May 2017, 07:17 AM   #81
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You're right, sorry, not "disgusting", "disgraceful". Mea culpa.

"Disgraceful" murders that you believe people should be prosecuted for don't bother you "one iota". You're so not bothered by them that you call them "disgraceful" and call for the prosecution of the perpetrators.

And you still haven't actually explained what you believe the connection is between this incident and the "murder" in the original thread.
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Old 12th May 2017, 07:27 AM   #82
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
You're right, sorry, not "disgusting", "disgraceful". Mea culpa.

"Disgraceful" murders that you believe people should be prosecuted for don't bother you "one iota". You're so not bothered by them that you call them "disgraceful" and call for the prosecution of the perpetrators.
Why won't you answer the question? Yes, I said, "...shooting an unarmed citizen who poses no risk whilst running (or driving) away is disgraceful...". Then I said that in this case, if it had happened, I would not care on iota for the victim. You said this is an inconsistent position to take but appear unable to describe why.

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
And you still haven't actually explained what you believe the connection is between this incident and the "murder" in the original thread.
I've explained it. If you don't believe me that's your issue.
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Old 12th May 2017, 07:55 AM   #83
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Originally Posted by baron View Post
Why won't you answer the question? Yes, I said, "...shooting an unarmed citizen who poses no risk whilst running (or driving) away is disgraceful...". Then I said that in this case, if it had happened, I would not care on iota for the victim. You said this is an inconsistent position to take but appear unable to describe why.
Because you're advocating for murder while condemning murder.

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I've explained it. If you don't believe me that's your issue.
I might believe you, were you to explain it. I've re-read the thread and have seen no such explanation. Perhaps I've missed it. Can you point me to the relevant post, please, like you did with your "hyperbole" post?
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Old 12th May 2017, 08:04 AM   #84
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I don't understand why the woman who went swimming with her dogs isn't being charged with trespassing.
True. Most pools don't allow pets. Should have shot them, too.
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Old 12th May 2017, 08:38 AM   #85
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
Because you're advocating for murder while condemning murder.
I see you've no interest in justifying your statement so I'll conclude your allegation was baseless.
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Old 13th May 2017, 04:14 AM   #86
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Originally Posted by baron View Post
I see you've no interest in justifying your statement so I'll conclude your allegation was baseless.
Ah, you're back to ignoring things that don't sit well with you, I see.

And you've still not explained how this incident is relevant to the shooting of an innocent black child.
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Old 13th May 2017, 11:48 PM   #87
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Originally Posted by Finster View Post
suggesting that they all deserve to be killed on site is pretty messed up.
Do you actually doubt that society would be improved?

I feel bad for this lady but she is chiefly a victim of egalitarian rhetoric. Most people would know that violence is the likely result of confronting a group of blacks and attempting to modify their behavior in any way.
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Old 14th May 2017, 12:03 AM   #88
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Tank View Post
Do you actually doubt that society would be improved?

I feel bad for this lady but she is chiefly a victim of egalitarian rhetoric. Most people would know that violence is the likely result of confronting a group of blacks and attempting to modify their behavior in any way.
Gas them?
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Tank View Post
Do you actually doubt that society would be improved?

I feel bad for this lady but she is chiefly a victim of egalitarian rhetoric. Most people would know that violence is the likely result of confronting a group of blacks and attempting to modify their behavior in any way.
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Gas them?
Well, some final solution, I'm sure.
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Old 14th May 2017, 09:28 AM   #90
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post
Had she drowned would it have been negligent homicide?
Could be second degree felony murder. First degree if the assault counted as "elder abuse".
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Old 14th May 2017, 09:35 AM   #91
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Originally Posted by Sideroxylon View Post
Gas them?
Don't give him ideas.

In any case, even the perpetrator agrees that this was wrong. It's actually a nice switch from the "he deserved it" rhetoric we see far too often when some innocent black person gets murdered randomly.
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Old 14th May 2017, 05:24 PM   #92
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Do you actually doubt that society would be improved?

I feel bad for this lady but she is chiefly a victim of egalitarian rhetoric. Most people would know that violence is the likely result of confronting a group of blacks and attempting to modify their behavior in any way.
Oh yes how on Earth could society be worse if police had the power to go around shooting people they didn't like?

I suppose in your fantasy you will be the one deciding which groups of people deserve to get arbitrarily shot? I mean you might not like it if someone else had the job.
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Old 14th May 2017, 06:18 PM   #93
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
Well, some final solution, I'm sure.
Sounds like someone there's plan!!! If you catch my drift and I think you do!!!!
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Old 15th May 2017, 10:46 AM   #94
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Oh yes how on Earth could society be worse if police had the power to go around shooting people they didn't like?

I suppose in your fantasy you will be the one deciding which groups of people deserve to get arbitrarily shot? I mean you might not like it if someone else had the job.
Pimps, con artists, drug sellers/producers (of the illegal persuasion), slavers, terrorists, active pedophiles, rapists, hackers (unless working for our government and with no evil functionings),dictators (foreign or domestic), politicians working against the best interests of their primary citizens (by number, not wealth level), Persons driving drunk or drugged by their own choosing/doings, bullies (on their second strike), murderers (absent a clear and acceptable reason such as the person they murder being provably in one of the noted groups). Oh, and psycho and sociopaths. Find them asap and eliminate them asap - if they have never acted on their -pathy and harmed others by same, nitrogen gas replacing normal air slowly in a nice calm room with an entertainment center. If they have harmed others, fire. I am sure I can come up with more.

Basically those who have no problem harming others for their own advancement, enrichment and/or pleasure.

As I am not any of the above, I feel it is a good and good to be acted upon list.
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Pimps, con artists, drug sellers/producers (of the illegal persuasion), slavers, terrorists, active pedophiles, rapists, hackers (unless working for our government and with no evil functionings),dictators (foreign or domestic), politicians working against the best interests of their primary citizens (by number, not wealth level), Persons driving drunk or drugged by their own choosing/doings, bullies (on their second strike), murderers (absent a clear and acceptable reason such as the person they murder being provably in one of the noted groups). Oh, and psycho and sociopaths. Find them asap and eliminate them asap - if they have never acted on their -pathy and harmed others by same, nitrogen gas replacing normal air slowly in a nice calm room with an entertainment center. If they have harmed others, fire. I am sure I can come up with more.

Basically those who have no problem harming others for their own advancement, enrichment and/or pleasure.

As I am not any of the above, I feel it is a good and good to be acted upon list.
Animal abusers would be top of my list. I'd gladly wield the axe myself.
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Old 18th May 2017, 07:15 AM   #96
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Had she drowned would it have been negligent homicide?
Drown in a clear pool with a hundred people watching the whole thing? Probably wouldn't happen but I suppose it's possible, and if so that charge might bring a conviction. But I would expect a prosecutor to bring a different charge because it isn't negligent per se. She was tossed in the pool with intent, but not for homicide or murder.
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Animal abusers would be top of my list. I'd gladly wield the axe myself.
Agreed - it is of that class!!
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