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Old 20th October 2022, 01:12 PM   #241
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
If the United States survives the next few years we will have to have a major look at how exactly the basic concepts of sanity and decency became so hated in America that people would elect people who are this horrible, this lying, and this stupid AND PUTTING ZERO EFFORT INTO HIDING IT just to get back at it.
'You know how insulting it is to be told your political choices are stupid is? You're making us do this!'

Is it as insulting as asking everyone to pretend it isn't, offloading agency for your actions onto others, and endangering our nation, to protect your ego? Cause, yeah, demanding people respect such disregard for basic civic duty is pretty insulting.
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Old 20th October 2022, 01:27 PM   #242
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NY Times article on Walker and his mental illness:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/20/u...l-illness.html
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Old 20th October 2022, 01:34 PM   #243
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
If the United States survives the next few years we will have to have a major look at how exactly the basic concepts of sanity and decency became so hated in America that people would elect people who are this horrible, this lying, and this stupid AND PUTTING ZERO EFFORT INTO HIDING IT just to get back at it.
"Reality" shows like The Apprentice and Survivor and Shark Tank etc. extolling the psychopathy and love of money and one-upmanship and back-stabbing.

Those so called reality absurdities have vitiated the brains of their victims just as much as another "reality show" about the human sacrifice and Zombification of an ill begotten son of a racist ethnic cleansing sky daddy telling people that the belief in that will allow mass murderers to spend eternity in the bosom of said Zombie while their victims will be consigned to eternal torment for not falling for the "reality show".

Not to mention the previous seasons of the "reality" show about a Sumerian pimping poltroon who made lots of riches out of lying and selling the "beauty" of his half-sister wife and his son's lying deceiving conniving wife and her son cheating his father and uncle and brother.
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Old 20th October 2022, 01:42 PM   #244
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You know, I can understand why a psychopathic, amoral, self-serving worshiper of money would support an utterly unqualified candidate for office, simply because that candidate would let them loot the treasury to their heart's content.

What I don't get is the smug, "Ha Ha! The idiot isn't actually an idiot!" posturing. That's what really annoys me. Does this guy really think his blatant lies are going to convince you that the ****** candidate isn't actually ******?
No one wants to admit being a psychopathic, amoral, self-serving worshiper of money who votes for an utterly unqualified candidate for office.... so he wants to tell himself by proxy via convincing me that he is in fact voting for moral reasons for a most qualified superb candidate.

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I mean, what did he think the point was of sending such an e-mail? If you're looking to con the rubes, why not put your effort into talking to the rubes?

He wants to convince himself that I am wrong when I kept repeatedly telling him that he and his ilk like Candice Owen et al remind me of Stephen.

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Old 20th October 2022, 02:52 PM   #245
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Originally Posted by Orphia Nay View Post
NY Times article on Walker and his mental illness:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/20/u...l-illness.html
I wonder if the psychiatric hospital he says he was in can legally confirm that he wasn't there? Walker has lied about so many things that I take what he says with a silo full of salt.
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Old 20th October 2022, 03:54 PM   #246
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If he had a son with a Model, it makes perfect sense
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Old 21st October 2022, 09:00 AM   #247
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I wonder if the psychiatric hospital he says he was in can legally confirm that he wasn't there? Walker has lied about so many things that I take what he says with a silo full of salt.
That's an interesting question. Confidentiality prevents doctors/hospitals from discussing their patients. But can they say this person is not/never was our patient? Why not? Of course, Walker could always claim because he was so famous he used an fake name or records are sealed or something. The hospital would probably be smarter to just not say anything.
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Well, if he wasn't being treated, he wouldn't be their patient.
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Well, if he wasn't being treated, he wouldn't be their patient.
So that implies the only time a hospital could comment would be if he HADN'T been their patient.
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That's an interesting question. Confidentiality prevents doctors/hospitals from discussing their patients. But can they say this person is not/never was our patient? Why not? Of course, Walker could always claim because he was so famous he used an fake name or records are sealed or something. The hospital would probably be smarter to just not say anything.
My question is why haven't the law enforcement departments that he's claimed to work with told us the truth? The only reason I can think of is it's Georgia and they're afraid of the backlash.
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My question is why haven't the law enforcement departments that he's claimed to work with told us the truth? The only reason I can think of is it's Georgia and they're afraid of the backlash.
Walker claimed to have worked with police in Cobb County Ga. "I work with the Cobb County Police Department, and I’ve been in criminal justice all my life,” he said in 2017"
The Cobb County Police Department has said they have no record of involvement with Walker.
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That would be the sensible and rational thing to do.

But there are many, MANY, rational and sensible things to do to get elected in the first place that he is abjectly failing to do. What would make him more likely to act in a rational manner once elected? He'll only get crazier as his crazy is enabled, his ego fed, and power is in his hands.
What's going on is that these crazies are realizing that instead of following MANY sensible things to stay viable, in the GOP it is much easier to stay in good standing. And aside from that they can do whatever the hell they like.
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Walker claimed to have worked with police in Cobb County Ga. "I work with the Cobb County Police Department, and I’ve been in criminal justice all my life,” he said in 2017"
The Cobb County Police Department has said they have no record of involvement with Walker.
Pathological lying is seen as a positive feature by the MAGA crowd.
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What's going on is that these crazies are realizing that instead of following MANY sensible things to stay viable, in the GOP it is much easier to stay in good standing. And aside from that they can do whatever the hell they like.

And their Banana Republic minions pretending to be judges let them get away with it too.
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It's a standard practice when the appeal process will take longer than the duration of the sentence.
18 USC 3143(b)(1)(B)(iv)

"the judicial officer shall order that a person who has been found guilty of an offense and sentenced to a term of imprisonment, and who has filed an appeal or a petition for a writ of certiorari, be detained, unless ... the appeal is not for the purpose of delay and raises a substantial question of law or fact likely to result in ... a reduced sentence to a term of imprisonment less than the total of the time already served plus the expected duration of the appeal process."

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Old 22nd October 2022, 11:02 AM   #256
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It's a standard practice when the appeal process will take longer than the duration of the sentence.
18 USC 3143(b)(1)(B)(iv)

"the judicial officer shall order that a person who has been found guilty of an offense and sentenced to a term of imprisonment, and who has filed an appeal or a petition for a writ of certiorari, be detained, unless ... the appeal is not for the purpose of delay and raises a substantial question of law or fact likely to result in ... a reduced sentence to a term of imprisonment less than the total of the time already served plus the expected duration of the appeal process."

And was this also the case with Roger Stone who was convicted ... and got off ... sentenced 3 months later and got off... any other person would have been in jail on the day of his conviction or at least his sentencing...

Had any other person done 1/100th of any of the crimes that Trump did... s/he would be now in jail... not to mention the crimes of the rest of his minions in the Congress.

And now we see the same with this other not so big cojones in this Banana Republic.... he will not spend a day of his sentence.
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There's no real justice in the U.S. We are well on our way to being a failed country. We just need an actual dictator to get us over the line. And I'm pretty sure that will hapen.
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That's an interesting question. Confidentiality prevents doctors/hospitals from discussing their patients. But can they say this person is not/never was our patient? Why not? Of course, Walker could always claim because he was so famous he used an fake name or records are sealed or something. The hospital would probably be smarter to just not say anything.
IANAL, but my understanding is that doctor/patient privilege belongs to the patient. Unless Walker was actually a patient there, there's no issue. There may be other legal policies/protections pertaining to medical records in place that constrain a hospital from discussing who was and wasn't there, but if Walker wasn't actually a patient, the hospital saying so isn't a breach of doctor/patient confidentiality, regardless of whatever other laws or policies such a disclosure might violate.

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I'm surprised a journalist has not contacted Del Amo hospital to verify Walker's statement. If Walker was never a patient there, then I think it's in the best interest of Georgia voters to know that he's told yet another Walter Mitty whopper.

Frankly, if he has been diagnosed with D.I.D., or just believes he has/had it, I think that, his history of domestic violence, and delusional lying makes him unfit to be a US senator.

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But experts say Mr. Walker’s assertion that he has “overcome” the disorder is simplistic at best: Like other mental illnesses, dissociative identity disorder cannot be cured in the classic sense. Psychiatrists say that while patients can learn to manage this disorder — and even live symptom-free for extended periods — the symptoms can recur, often triggered by stress.

“You can get better,” said Dr. David Spiegel, a Stanford University psychiatry professor who studies and treats dissociative identity disorder. “But it doesn’t just evaporate.”
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I'm surprised a journalist has not contacted Del Amo hospital to verify Walker's statement. If Walker was never a patient there, then I think it's in the best interest of Georgia voters to know that he's told yet another Walter Mitty whopper.

Frankly, if he has been diagnosed with D.I.D., or just believes he has/had it, I think that, his history of domestic violence, and delusional lying makes him unfit to be a US senator.
Maybe he was cured by Jeeesus.
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I'm surprised a journalist has not contacted Del Amo hospital to verify Walker's statement. If Walker was never a patient there, then I think it's in the best interest of Georgia voters to know that he's told yet another Walter Mitty whopper.

Frankly, if he has been diagnosed with D.I.D., or just believes he has/had it, I think that, his history of domestic violence, and delusional lying makes him unfit to be a US senator.

For the degenerate wicked republican voters nothing makes a difference ... even being a pedophile has not stopped them voting for one... and they repeatedly voted for Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruise and their ilk... the most loathsome heinous despicable servile obeisant sycophantic dishonorable hypocritical scum to ever float at the surface of the most wretched of the cesspools of villainy.
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There's no real justice in the U.S. We are well on our way to being a failed country. We just need an actual dictator to get us over the line. And I'm pretty sure that will hapen.

The dress rehearsal they did with Trump taught them how to do it the next time... so you are totally right.

They are not even hiding it... they are saying it out loud in the open...
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And is this an awakening in the biblical sense? Is this a spiritual awakening? You bet it is.

This is where our nation is. We are at the edge. Some of our country is already down into the abyss.

There is a spiritual war and there is a political war. They're going on in this country right now.
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A second woman has come forward, albeit anonymously, and claimed she became pregnant by Walker in 1993 in Texas and that he "ensured" she got an abortion. She had gone to the clinic the day before and changed her mind but Walker then drove her to the clinic where he 'ensured' she got the abortion. She says she is a registered Independent and voted for Trump twice so this is not politically motivated but feels that Walker says one thing publicly but does another in his private life. Walker denies both women's claims.

Walker has also claimed he never sighs "H" in his letters but the woman, who says they had a years long relationship, claims that is not true as he also signer letters to her "H".

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A small correction, but I believe you mean "ensured" and not "insured."
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A small correction, but I believe you mean "ensured" and not "insured."
Yes, I did. Thanks for the correction and I've edited it. That's one of those things I "know" but constantly fall back to misusing. GRRRRRR.
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Lindsey Graham made the comparison of these women coming forward to what happened to Kavanaugh. I guess these two women are also "lying"? Amazing how all these women are lying about these poor men!
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Obama on Herschel Walker: "Some of you may not remember, but Herschel Walker was a heck of a football player... does that make him the best person to represent you?... let's say you're at the airport and you see Herschel Walker and you say, Hey, there's Herschel Walker, Heisman winner. Let's have him fly the plane!"
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Lindsey Graham made the comparison of these women coming forward to what happened to Kavanaugh. I guess these two women are also "lying"? Amazing how all these women are lying about these poor men!
I'm not sure Lindsay knows a lot about women.
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He knows they shouldn't be allowed to make decisions about their own bodies. Just like Herschel!
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Not to blame these women in any way, but the world would be a much better place if people made more intelligent choices in whom they want to shag. But science will never answer the question "Why do fools fall in love?".
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Not to blame these women in any way, but the world would be a much better place if people made more intelligent choices in whom they want to shag. But science will never answer the question "Why do fools fall in love?".
Nah!

If intelligence had anything to do with it, I'd still be a virgin.
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If you're only going to watch one video on Twitter today, watch this one. This guy hits the nail on the head.

https://twitter.com/DonLew87/status/1587120280161292288
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If you're only going to watch one video on Twitter today, watch this one. This guy hits the nail on the head.

https://twitter.com/DonLew87/status/1587120280161292288
While he's totally right, the fact he did this as the pastor in his church is putting his tax-exempt status at risk.
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While he's totally right, the fact he did this as the pastor in his church is putting his tax-exempt status at risk.
Meh. Right-wing pastors get away with a lot more than this and are never touched.
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Meh. Right-wing pastors get away with a lot more than this and are never touched.
Exactly...and they need to be. There is no room for politics, left, middle, or right, being preached from the pulpit. We've all seen what happens when religion and politics mix on a formal basis. Nothing ever good comes from it.
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Exactly...and they need to be. There is no room for politics, left, middle, or right, being preached from the pulpit. We've all seen what happens when religion and politics mix on a formal basis. Nothing ever good comes from it.

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” -- George Santayana

And given the state of education of history... or anything else for that matter... ah well!!!
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Exactly...and they need to be. There is no room for politics, left, middle, or right, being preached from the pulpit. We've all seen what happens when religion and politics mix on a formal basis. Nothing ever good comes from it.
The day this gets enforced is the day when
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“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” -- George Santayana

And given the state of education of history... or anything else for that matter... ah well!!!
Ain't that the truth! I saw a girl about 17-20 years old asked what the capital of the US is. She hesitated, got a confused look on her face and asked, "Wait. Do we have a capital?" I wanted to throw my remote control at the TV.
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Don't do that! Throw the coffee table, it's bigger!
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Herschel Walker denies he knows the second woman who has claimed he paid for her abortion (his baby).

"Seven days before an election, the Democrats trot out Gloria Allred and some woman I do not know. My opponents will do and say anything to win this election. The entire Democrat machine is coming after me and the people of Georgia."

Hmmmm... this woman he 'does not know' appeared on GMA today:

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The woman allowed her face to be shown on camera, but her name remained concealed. She reiterated many of the allegations that she and her attorney, Gloria Allred, first made in late October, saying she and Walker had a six-year affair that began in the late 1980s while he was married and playing in the NFL.

Doe said she became pregnant in 1993, and Walker convinced her to have an abortion. She said he drove her to the clinic and gave her cash to pay for the procedure. She shared with ABC what she said were letters from Walker signed with the letter "H," a photo of him asleep, hotel receipts from the time and a voicemail she purports to be from him.
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The woman said she decided to show her face after seeing Walker strongly deny allegations made by another woman who said he also paid for her abortion in 2009.

"He immediately called her a liar and said, 'I never signed anything with the letter H,' and I knew I had many cards from him where he signed the letter 'H.' And so I believed then that she was telling the truth," she said.
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She said she kept in touch with Walker over the years, and saw each other at a conference in 2019. A friend who took a photo of Doe and Walker at the conference told ABC News their embrace was "very emotional."

Doe, who says she's a registered independent and voted for former President Donald Trump twice, told ABC News that Walker is unfit to be a senator because "honesty matters."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hersche...rning-america/

Ok...I believe her but...she voted for Trump twice but "honesty matters"? Oh, boy... amazing now some people can be so willfully blind.
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