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Old 15th September 2022, 10:43 PM   #1
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- Your Favorite Republican? -

I know, it is hard to choose just one. My favorite was Ronald Reagan. Perhaps it is because my teens were spent in the 80's. I didn't care much about politics back then, but Reagan brought a sense of optimism, strength, and patriotism that was very refreshing. Especially after well-intentioned, but much-maligned Jimmy Carter. I remember the 80's as a fun and prosperous time...to a large extent because of Reagan and the image of the US he promoted. I respected Bush Sr., but I suppose the time for that platform had moved on.

So, while I know most of you are Dems, is there a Republican that you have ever admired, currently serving or otherwise? I know that is a tough question for some to answer, due to partisanship. But I can honestly say that I admire Obama perhaps above all other Dems in my adult lifetime.
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
I know, it is hard to choose just one. My favorite was Ronald Reagan. Perhaps it is because my teens were spent in the 80's. I didn't care much about politics back then, but Reagan brought a sense of optimism, strength, and patriotism that was very refreshing. Especially after well-intentioned, but much-maligned Jimmy Carter. I remember the 80's as a fun and prosperous time...to a large extent because of Reagan and the image of the US he promoted. I respected Bush Sr., but I suppose the time for that platform had moved on.

So, while I know most of you are Dems, is there a Republican that you have ever admired, currently serving or otherwise? I know that is a tough question for some to answer, due to partisanship. But I can honestly say that I admire Obama perhaps above all other Dems in my adult lifetime.
Obama was a good Republican.
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Obama was a good Republican.

Not sure what you mean? I'm referring to members of the Republican party.
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I mean that most Dems elected to office of President are basically Repub-lite
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Liz Cheney or Adam Kizinger
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Originally Posted by Lennart Hyland View Post
Liz Cheney or Adam Kizinger

What would mark either as your favorite Republican of all time? I should have been more specific, as far as a little supporting explanation would be of interest.
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What would mark either as your favorite Republican of all time? I should have been more specific, as far as a little supporting explanation would be of interest.
Sorry, I thought it was quite self explanatory

Also I'm fairly new to American politics and therefor I choose two currently serving .
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Originally Posted by Lennart Hyland View Post
Sorry, I thought it was quite self explanatory

Also I'm fairly new to American politics and therefor I choose two currently serving .

Fair enough.
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Abraham Lincoln
Ditto.
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before the failure to support the Impeachment of Trump for Jan 6th, I could have named a few, simply because I thought they actually believed in more than just staying in power.

I might say Romney, simply because he is actually faithful to his own convictions, even if they are pretty bad ones.
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Warp12. He's my absolute FAVOURITE Republican!

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Warp12. He's my absolute FAVOURITE Republican!


Ha. Do you have a favorite Republican politician, past or present? And if so, please elaborate on the reason that individual is your top pick.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
before the failure to support the Impeachment of Trump for Jan 6th, I could have named a few, simply because I thought they actually believed in more than just staying in power.

I might say Romney, simply because he is actually faithful to his own convictions, even if they are pretty bad ones.

Any favorite from a historical perspective?
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Abraham Lincoln
Was he a Republican? Wow! I don't think that's widely known.
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Any favorite from a historical perspective?
No politician ages well.
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Eisenhower.

Any particular reason?
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I got one:

Smedley Butler
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I have two favorite Republicans:

President Lincoln and President Eisenhower.

It sure is a shame that ever since Eisenhower, all of the Republican presidents (and many of the other national Republican political leaders) have been some horrible product of being very stupid and being very dishonest and being very corrupt and being very self-serving. I have been hoping that the Republican electorate would have learned that basic fact by now, but I am afraid that they have not learned that basic fact.
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I got one:

Smedley Butler

Quite a fascinating character, with a pretty detailed Wiki.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
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Eisenhower killed Nazis. Also his platform was very reasonable and not the abject cruelty to poor people that we've seen since Reagan, nor the psychotic right-wing radicalism we've seen since Goldwater.

I would have preferred Ike had stood up to drunk boy McCarthy, done more to support desegregation and Civil Rights, and not made a fool of himself over the U2 program. probably a lot of other things I can't think of right now.
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Eisenhower killed Nazis.
Yes, rather than the current trend to embrace them, though as you note, he didn't do much against the Nazi McCarthy.
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I'd vote for Earl Warren.
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Eisenhower.
Eisenhower was an alright guy, although he did start the trend of Republicans who, once out of office, find the courage to speak out about systemic problems they actively contributed to up to that point.

Really though, pre-Nixon/Southern Strategy Republicans were a whole different bunch to the traitorous ****weasels we have today. The worst of the Democrats (e.g. Strom Thurmond) crossed over in the sixties because they liked what they saw, and it's been a downhill slide into hateful fascism for them ever since.

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In my lifetime (which started just after Nixon left office), I'd say John McCain. He wasn't perfect*, but he was an honorable man and generally cared more about the country than his party. Of all of US history, I'll hop onto the Abe Lincoln bandwagon, although I feel one could easily argue that was an entirely different Republican party.



* e.g. Sarah Palin
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Originally Posted by Crossbow View Post
I have two favorite Republicans:

President Lincoln and President Eisenhower.

It sure is a shame that ever since Eisenhower, all of the Republican presidents (and many of the other national Republican political leaders) have been some horrible product of being very stupid and being very dishonest and being very corrupt and being very self-serving. I have been hoping that the Republican electorate would have learned that basic fact by now, but I am afraid that they have not learned that basic fact.
Agree but the highlighted isn’t really fair – a lot of them know – they just don’t care (or they think those traits are to be admired.)
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Heck, mine is Alan Simpson. There's no 2nd, no 3rd. For genial-sounding vileness and spiteful disdain for the working class, even when he's out of office, he has no peer. His mind is so narrow you couldn't draw a line around it; the best you could do is scribe a thin, greasy brown streak.
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* e.g. Sarah Palin
Yeah, Sarah Palin was the moment that the Republican Party accidentally realized they could weaponize ignorance as though it were a virtue. Until then, they at least tried to pretend to be smart or to care about knowledge. After that it became a sign of being hopelessly out of touch and elite if you knew the capital of France, or read books.
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I know, it is hard to choose just as many as one.
ftfy.

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My favorite was Ronald Reagan.
I understand that best thing going for him was that he worked a 40 hour week as POTUS (can't do so much damage if you are sleeping half the time).

He originally campaigned on his economic creds then like all politicians, he turned out to have none after he was elected.
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No favorites, but I find governor Eric Holcolm (IN) a tolerable Republican. Even with Trump's hijack of the Republican party, he's managed to stay a relatively good distance away from MAGA influence. I wouldn't mind lunch with him.
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Originally Posted by psionl0 View Post
ftfy.


I understand that best thing going for him was that he worked a 40 hour week as POTUS (can't do so much damage if you are sleeping half the time).

He originally campaigned on his economic creds then like all politicians, he turned out to have none after he was elected.
Yeah, his trickle-down economics plans was a real winner.
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I understand that best thing going for him was that he worked a 40 hour week as POTUS (can't do so much damage if you are sleeping half the time).

He originally campaigned on his economic creds then like all politicians, he turned out to have none after he was elected.
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Yeah, his trickle-down economics plans was a real winner.

Interestingly, historians rank Reagan just above Obama (my favorite Dem), in this C-Span survey:
https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurv.../?page=overall
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Originally Posted by psionl0 View Post
ftfy.


I understand that best thing going for him was that he worked a 40 hour week as POTUS (can't do so much damage if you are sleeping half the time).

He originally campaigned on his economic creds then like all politicians, he turned out to have none after he was elected.
He also was a flamboyantly bold liar, though he did it with such style and smile that he got away with being "inaccurate."
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John McCain too.

I was flying out of D.C. years ago and the terminal I was leaving from had a gate with flights to Arizona.

It was the evening after the end of a congressional session and low and behold John McCain walks up to the gate all by himself with a suit bag over his shoulder.

I wanted to walk up and say howdy, but he looked tired so I didn't bother him. Everybody else did the same.

A good man.
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Reagan was a good salesman and a weak president. Given credit for things others did. This includes Jimmy Carter's defense build up.

He had one seriously great accomplishment, however. That was the intermediate ranged nuclear missile treaty. But again, the way for that was paved by Carter. And Trump trashed the treaty.

Favorite Republican? Lincoln would be a good choice but today's Republican party is not at all the party of Lincoln. If we want to be fair we need to look at post realignment Republicans since that collection of moral weaklings is representative of what the party became. William Milliken. Governor of Michigan from 1969 to 1983. But of course even he was elected originally before realignment. He was what a conservative is supposed to be instead of a regressive. He did not try to take anything backwards. Just wanted a slower rate of change.

A little further back, another Michigan governor was not too bad. Named Romney. George Romney, Mitch's dad. I would take him over Mitch any day. But George was also pre-realignment.
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Larry Hogan. He got Maryland through Covid-19. I don't agree with some of his policy decisions but he's not an idiot, has some integrity and certainly not filthy Trumptrash.
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Interestingly, historians rank Reagan just above Obama (my favorite Dem), in this C-Span survey:
https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurv.../?page=overall
In the Presidential Greatness Survey, it's just the opposite.

Reagan did the country no favor when he brought the Religious Right into political prominence and influence.
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In the Presidential Greatness Survey, it's just the opposite.

Reagan did the country no favor when he brought the Religious Right into political prominence and influence.
The current student loan crisis also had itss roots in his watch.
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