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Old 8th November 2022, 08:10 AM   #201
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As for crime... It is like the bogie of gays deatroying rhe "sanctity of marriage"... A chimera created to instil paranoia among the uninformed gullible.
Add to that the Fake Cause (Dems never defunded the police, they increased their budgets) as well as the Fake Solution (the pool for hiring new cops is empty, the current batch is already not qualified, the new hires would have to be either mortally obese or criminals themselves or both).
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Old 8th November 2022, 08:17 AM   #202
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Originally Posted by Susheel View Post
How are the Dems responsible for inflation.? Can you elucidate the economic mechanisms involved? And how do you think the Repubs would fix it?

As for crime... It is like the bogie of gays deatroying rhe "sanctity of marriage"... A chimera created to instil paranoia among the uninformed gullible.
I never said the Democrats were responsible for the high inflation. However government spending does of course contribute to inflation and increasing spending during high inflation is not the best idea.
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Add to that the Fake Cause (Dems never defunded the police, they increased their budgets) as well as the Fake Solution (the pool for hiring new cops is empty, the current batch is already not qualified, the new hires would have to be either mortally obese or criminals themselves or both).
So the Democrats didn't push the idea of reducing funding for the police and the increase in crime during the pandemic is all made up?

Fascinating.
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So the Democrats didn't push the idea of reducing funding for the police and the increase in crime during the pandemic is all made up?

Fascinating.

You clearly can't tell the difference between talking about something and actually doing it.

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https://nypost.com/2021/12/28/nycs-w...il-reform-law/

Here are some more cases of outstanding citizens released onto the streets because judge's hands were tied by NYs bail reform law.

Did you think no one would read it? Granted, it's the NY Post, so we're better off not touching, but I just want to point out yours and the rest of the whi...er right-wing media's dishonesty.

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Steven Mendez, 18, already had at least three busts on his record and was out on probation when he allegedly gunned down 21-year-old college student Saiko Koma in October.

Bronx Judge Denis Boyle freed Mendez on five years’ probation in May after he pleaded guilty to a violent armed robbery in 2020, The Post previously reported. The troubled teen, whose rap sheet includes a bust for allegedly pulling a gun on his own mother, could’ve been kept behind bars for up to four years in the robbery case.
That's sentencing after a trial or a plea bargain, not cashless bail. It looks like the judge used their own discretion in that case. Isn't that what you want?

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Mendez was arraigned on murder charges in the case last week and ordered held without bail, court records show.
Hey look, no bail, staying in jail.

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Serial shoplifter Isaac Rodriguez was nabbed nearly 50 times this year alone — yet kept getting dumped back on the streets.

Rodriguez, 22, currently has 23 open cases in Queens, part of a mind-boggling rap sheet that lists 74 arrests dating to 2015, records show.

He allegedly hit one Walgreens in Jackson Heights 37 times during the year but has also targeted a slew of other retailers, stealing everything from baby formula to Victoria’s Secret merchandise.

Thanks to the state’s revolving-door criminal justice system, the petit larceny and stolen property charges don’t qualify for bail.
Ya, and? Not a violent offender. Do you want to lock them up next to violent offenders? How do you think that will work out?

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DelValle already had more than 30 busts on his rap sheet — and five open cases in Manhattan and Brooklyn — when a Manhattan judge ordered him released without bail on Aug. 15 on the most recent burglary case.
Burglary is nonviolent.

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Within 10 days, cops said, DelValle was being sought on more than a dozen other burglaries after investigators found 20 laptops, a stolen 9mm handgun and drugs at his apartment at a Brooklyn public housing complex.
OK, now they catch him with a stolen gun. Did they let him free with no bail?

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Police caught up with DelValle at the end of August and hit him with felony burglary charges — and he’s finally behind bars on $10,000 bail, records show.
Oh, look, $10,000 bail.

What if he pulled out $10,000 and gave it to the judge right then and there? Would you be OK with him walking out?

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Just one month before the alleged assault on the girl, Wilson was charged with third-degree burglary in another case — but had to be released because the state bail reform measures do not allow judges to set bail on the charge.
Again, nonviolent crime. And look at what happened when he did commit a violent crime.

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Detectives later tracked down Wilson through DNA from a water bottle he left behind, and he is being held on $500,000 bail at Rikers Island
Again, if he pulled out the money for bail right then and there, he'd get to walk free until trial. Would you be OK with that?

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Ramirez, 17, was freed on March 2 after Boyle — the same jurist in the Mendez case — reduced his bail from $75,000 to $10,000 over the objections of Bronx prosecutors.
So, the judge used his discretion to lower the bail. Again, isn't that what you want?

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Ricardo Hernandez was cut loose after he was charged with three hate crimes for allegedly shoving an Asian NYPD officer onto Queens subway tracks on April 17.
I'm calling ********. Assaulting a police officer is a felony in New York State.

Fortunately, the original article about the incident is linked within the article.

Here are a few key details:
1) no one was injured
2) "He was arrested at the scene and charged with harassment, aggravated harassment and menacing." So the prosecutor didn't charge him with assault or anything that would have required cash bail. Why not?

The last one is the person who lit the tree in front of Nazi NEws on fire. He was given supervised release without bail. Again, an important detail

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Under New York law, arson is only a felony if the suspect tries to harm a person or commits a hate crime, he clarified.
If they wanted to, the prosecutor could have found a felony to charge him with.
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I never said the Democrats were responsible for the high inflation.
Good because it looks like Democratic policies have helped mitigate inflation in the US.

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However government spending does of course contribute to inflation
Not as much as tax cuts and austerity measures. Inflation happens, no matter what economic policy a government is pursuing. Moderate inflation is actually a sign of a healthy economy, or so we've been told. Increasing government spending in certain in sectors can actually slow it down and help the average person keep up with it.

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and increasing spending during high inflation is not the best idea.
It's actually the best solution we've got. It ain't perfect, can be abused, and really only mitigates inflation, but it's better than the other tuff that gets tried over and over and over again.
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So the Democrats didn't push the idea of reducing funding for the police
Some have, but the party, in general, opposes it, no matter how good an idea it actually is. In fact, police agencies have seen an increase in their budgets. Even when DeBlasio proposed gutting the NYPD's budget, it was $500 million out of $10.4 billion at the time. and that was all coming out of administrative services. the NYPD's current budget is $11 billion before overtime is calculated. Even after a 15% cut to the City's overall budget.

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and the increase in crime during the pandemic is all made up?

Fascinating.
Crime increased due to a global pandemic and the ensuing economic repercussions of such on top of the already growing economic disparity. Who was in charge when that all started again? Was there some specific group of people that massively fouled up the response to the pandemic? And is still ignoring growing economic disparity?
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The fact that government spending does not contribute much to inflation comes from the fact that the gov't is not involved in consumer products. Food stamps provides some money flow to retail. The gov't is 36-44% of the GDP. And it does not change enough year to year to "cause" inflation. The free market is 60%.

Military spending is a lot of dollars and jobs income, but that too is rather similar in 4-8 year trends.
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How are the Dems responsible for inflation.? Can you elucidate the economic mechanisms involved? And how do you think the Repubs would fix it?
The American Rescue Plan and the other stimulus payments added about 3% to the US inflation rate, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco.

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The comparison between the actual path of inflation and our scenario in Figure 3 suggests that U.S. income transfers may have contributed to an increase in inflation of about 3 percentage points by the fourth quarter of 2021.
Now this does include Trump's stimulus payments but I'd argue that the ARP was just throwing gas on the fire. By that point the pandemic was receding and even Democrats like Lawrence Summers warned that more stimulus was likely to be inflationary.

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Whereas the Obama stimulus was about half as large as the output shortfall, the proposed Biden stimulus is three times as large as the projected shortfall. Relative to the size of the gap being addressed, it is six times as large.
No Republicans supported the bill; it was passed on a completely partisan basis.
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No Republicans supported the bill; it was passed on a completely partisan basis.
Why the **** should we care that something is "partisan" in this day an age?

Every single Republican would vote against "Kittens are cute" if they knew the Democrats were going to vote for it.

I'm sick of the Republicans being all "My way or the highway, you're get my raping Supreme Court Justice and YOU'LL LIKE IT!" when they are in power and all "Oh noes we have to agree on everything and not be partisan" when they are not.

One party has gone completely insane and WILL vote against anything that is based on facts or basic human decency.

How ******* dare you then whine about things being "Partisan."
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Good because it looks like Democratic policies have helped mitigate inflation in the US.



Not as much as tax cuts and austerity measures. Inflation happens, no matter what economic policy a government is pursuing. Moderate inflation is actually a sign of a healthy economy, or so we've been told. Increasing government spending in certain in sectors can actually slow it down and help the average person keep up with it.



It's actually the best solution we've got. It ain't perfect, can be abused, and really only mitigates inflation, but it's better than the other tuff that gets tried over and over and over again.
Please explain how INCREASED spending can help reduce inflation.

This should be good.
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Originally Posted by Hercules56 View Post
Please explain how INCREASED spending can help reduce inflation.

This should be good.
easy: it all depends on what you spend the money ON.
Spending it on Tax Cuts does indeed increase inflation directly.
Investing it in infrastructure, education, healthcare or preventing people to become impoverished gives you more economic return than you spend taxpayer money for.

The US can raise trillions with no impact on Inflation, as long as the money is spend the right way.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
easy: it all depends on what you spend the money ON.
Spending it on Tax Cuts does indeed increase inflation directly.
Investing it in infrastructure, education, healthcare or preventing people to become impoverished gives you more economic return than you spend taxpayer money for.

The US can raise trillions with no impact on Inflation, as long as the money is spend the right way.
Much of that likely will effect inflation. Think about it, you raise a trillion dollars for infrastructure improvements. Thats more construction jobs and during a tight labor market that means increased wages. More demand for raw materials, like steel. So theres more demand, and the price goes up. That could be mitigated by raising taxes to pay for the project rather than issuing bonds, but politically we can't raise taxes.
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Originally Posted by Hercules56 View Post
Please explain how INCREASED spending can help reduce inflation.

This should be good.
Donal said "mitigate". You switched that to "reduce". Those are not the same word, and they have different meanings.
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Much of that likely will effect inflation. Think about it, you raise a trillion dollars for infrastructure improvements. Thats more construction jobs and during a tight labor market that means increased wages. More demand for raw materials, like steel. So theres more demand, and the price goes up. That could be mitigated by raising taxes to pay for the project rather than issuing bonds, but politically we can't raise taxes.
That depends on whether it is cheaper to invest in infrastructure, or let it decay: if economic growth increases to the same degree as spending or more there is no inflation.
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Please explain how INCREASED spending can help reduce inflation.

This should be good.
Tell you what.

In your own words, explain why YOU think inflation is happening.

That will definitely be good.
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Why the **** should we care that something is "partisan" in this day an age?
Responding to the part about what would the Republicans do differently wrt inflation. Quite plainly, they would not have passed ARPA, which is a big reason for the magnitude of the inflation we are experiencing.
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I realized something when Jordan Klepper talked to trumpsters. It's not just Trump that was wronged 2020. They themselves have been cheated for 30 years! Every election after Reagan. Sure they got Bush over Gore, but Bush won by a landslide!
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That depends on whether it is cheaper to invest in infrastructure, or let it decay: if economic growth increases to the same degree as spending or more there is no inflation.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/billcon...h=5e4b062a6245

Growth can sometimes by inflationary. And I think we are in that author's scenario #3:
Finally, let’s imagine the economy has grown so that production is beyond what we think of as normal capacity. Workers are putting in overtime. The company may be renting temporary space to house extra inventory or workers. Rush shipments of vital goods—either inbound or outbound—are raising costs. The company won’t be granting any discounts. What’s more, the business may be contemplating price hikes. Although profits are up, variable costs have risen sharply. The business may see that its competitors are unable to serve more customers. Time to raise prices.

Of course if we don't keep up with infrastructure then it can become more expensive for a business to operate... which leads to inflation. Ie if ports are backed up and a business that depends on widget A from over seas to produce product B... well now they can't expand production to meet demand which leads to higher prices.
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As for crime... It is like the bogie of gays deatroying rhe "sanctity of marriage"... A chimera created to instil paranoia among the uninformed gullible.
The rising crime here in Portland isn't a chimera. It's what a lot of people are voting about this year. Elected officials and policies at the city, county, and state level. Nobody here cares about saving the country from crime at a national level. We just want our city back.
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Responding to the part about what would the Republicans do differently wrt inflation. Quite plainly, they would not have passed ARPA, which is a big reason for the magnitude of the inflation we are experiencing.
Oh.

So why are OTHER countries experiencing inflation?

(This should be good. Let's see how you weasel/excuse/distract your way out of this.)
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Tell you what.

In your own words, explain why YOU think inflation is happening.

That will definitely be good.
Demand is greater than supply, thanks in a major part to continued supply chain issues. We need to either reduce demand or increase supply. MORE govt spending and tax cuts will only increase demand and inflation.
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Demand is greater than supply, thanks in a major part to continued supply chain issues. We need to either reduce demand or increase supply. MORE govt spending and tax cuts will only increase demand and inflation.
so you agree that government investment to increase supply will reduce inflation.
You can't save so much money that you have a surplus even if you have no income.
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Who's are they? The Martians?
given the phrase was: "They aren't really the concerns", I thought it was clear that the antecedent was things people are supposedly concerned about. I should perhaps have written "those" instead, but even so, I don't see how you could read what I wrote as referring to people.

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This constant disregarding of peoples' legitimate fears about crime is terribly arrogant and condescending.
Begging the question that there are, in fact, legitimate fears about crime that are being disregarded. You are not entitled to the concession that these concerns are well-founded. That is a claim to be demonstrated.
Although since you managed to completely overlook the fact that those alleged fears were the "they" I was referring to, I suppose you could say that *you* are disregarding those fears.
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given the phrase was: "They aren't really the concerns", I thought it was clear that the antecedent was things people are supposedly concerned about. I should perhaps have written "those" instead, but even so, I don't see how you could read what I wrote as referring to people.



Begging the question that there are, in fact, legitimate fears about crime that are being disregarded. You are not entitled to the concession that these concerns are well-founded. That is a claim to be demonstrated.
Although since you managed to completely overlook the fact that those alleged fears were the "they" I was referring to, I suppose you could say that *you* are disregarding those fears.
Okay so what you are saying is that you are simply disregarding illegitimate fears about crime. We are silly and ignorant for having such fears.

Wonderful. I hope that attitude gives you the win tonight.
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Inflation is why the dems will lose. It’s also why they can win in 2024 since the republican congress will fail to end it.
While both of these are true, there is also the possibility that inflation will damp down on its own, allowing the Republicans will claim credit. The current inflation is in part driven by people having an unusually large amount of available cash due to not being able to spend normally during the pandemic, which is allowing corporations to significantly increase profit margins. When people stop spending after using up their unspent money, corporations can roll back prices and still be profitable. The Russian special military operation is also a driver of inflation, and that might end within the next 2 years.
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We're pretty getting to the point where everyone is just admitting that politics in America is purely random since it's all about the economy and the President has little to no direct real time effect on said economy.
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Okay so what you are saying is that you are simply disregarding illegitimate fears about crime.
Don't be absurd.

We're saying you're lying about having those fears, since you only starting having them when the Democrats got into power.


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Old 8th November 2022, 12:46 PM   #229
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Oh.

So why are OTHER countries experiencing inflation?

(This should be good. Let's see how you weasel/excuse/distract your way out of this.)
Did you read the San Francisco Fed paper? I'm guessing no.
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Old 8th November 2022, 01:22 PM   #230
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/pol...-for-democrats

1 million voters switched from Dem to GOP in 2021.

The Democrats need to figure out quickly what the hell they are doing wrong.

Disregarding these defections as simply ignorant people who have been suckered into believing Republican fear-mongering simply will not do. Not if they ever want to control Congress again.

Although the Democrats could instead just choose purity over power.

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Old 8th November 2022, 01:22 PM   #231
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Please explain how INCREASED spending can help reduce inflation.

This should be good.
First, replace the word "spending" with "investing" because that's what this is.

Second, I didn't say reduce inflation. Inflation is too complicated and unwieldy to try and reduce it. There are too many variables to promise anything. A government can try and mitigate the damage. That means things like slowing it down or getting people more money.

Investing in things like roads and rails and schools and hospitals leads to purchasing equipment and materials as well as hiring laborers.

"But doesn't that increase demand?" In the short term, yes. That's why it is important to be selective about where you invest early on. One of our big problems was not having enough space and personnel to unload the freight in our ports. Expand the ports and hire more people to work them. Build and upgrade the roads and rails to move it. That increases supply.
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Old 8th November 2022, 01:25 PM   #232
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You're wasting your breath, it's always going to be the same excuse.

"I don't want to vote for the racists, sexist, homophobic, reality denying, Democracy destroying, conspiracy theorizing, pro-Nazi party... but those Democrats have simply forced my hand by (doing something that even their exaggerated version of isn't really that bad.)"

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Old 8th November 2022, 01:27 PM   #233
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Originally Posted by Hercules56 View Post
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/pol...-for-democrats

1 million voters switched from Dem to GOP in 2021.

The Democrats need to figure out quickly what the hell they are doing wrong.

Disregarding these defections as simply ignorant people who have been suckered into believing Republican fear-mongering simply will not do. Not if they ever want to control Congress again.
The biggest problem is relying on white women. They remain the worst.

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More than 1 million voters across 43 states have switched to the Republican Party over the last year, according to voter registration data analyzed by The Associated Press. The previously unreported number reflects a phenomenon that is playing out in virtually every region of the country — Democratic and Republican states along with cities and small towns — in the period since President Joe Biden replaced former President Donald Trump.
Does that mean no one has ever looked at it before? How do we know the significance of it now? Also, that is from June. A lot has happened since then.
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Old 8th November 2022, 01:30 PM   #234
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Seriously, yes violent crime is done from 1998 but it is also up from 2010 and properties crimes are up even more. Sure, crime is not as bad as it was in my childhood but that doesn't translate well to, its only a problem in the minds of republicans. Telling voters its a paranoid fantasy is not going to get you votes.
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"Father why is Mommy dead?"
"Well she died because she couldn't get an abortion."
"Why"
"Because the Democrats didn't EARN my vote hard enough."

You know you could just be a base decent human being and be politically active in a way that is going to do the most good for the most people instead of acting out this "Beg for my vote. BEG FOR IT!" routine.

I'd love to know what the Republicans did to "earn" everyone's vote who's throwing that phrase around like so much confetti but I expect nothing but our bog standard mush mouthed "I can vote however I want and don't have to explain it to you" or "I'll vote like a trolling psychopath if I want to, watcha gonna do about it libtard?"
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property crime went down in 2021

The FBI also says violent crime continued to decrease in 2021.

So what do you say to that? Do we pretend that the whole country is burning to the ground just to satiate an illusion? Do we implement policies that will have far-reaching negative effects on the poor and minorities in the hope that Debbie Boxowine will vote for them?
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Do we pretend that the whole country is burning to the ground just to satiate an illusion?
I mean... that one. That's literally the entire thing the Right is doing.

One trash gets knocked over in Portland and it means Antifa has declared the Purge. That's been their angle for a while now.

The only crime that isn't happening is school shootings, those don't exist. And storming the Capital, that never happened. And anything Trump did.

Because the Right doesn't seem "crime" as an action, it sees it as a demographic.

It's a dog whistle.
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Seriously, yes violent crime is done from 1998 but it is also up from 2010 and properties crimes are up even more. Sure, crime is not as bad as it was in my childhood but that doesn't translate well to, its only a problem in the minds of republicans. Telling voters its a paranoid fantasy is not going to get you votes.
I don't think it's telling voters they're paranoid, it's telling voters that the GOP doesn't have a solution at all.

So, ok, crime is up (it's not, as we saw) but lets pretend it is because the GOP has convinced people that's the case. What are they going to do about it? There is actually crime in GOP run states, cities, etc. as well. Voting GOP isn't some magic ******* cure all for crime. The GOP runs the state legislatures for >50% of the states and crime is still all over.
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Well yes but the Republicans don't have to EARN MY VOTE (Fanfare) for reasons which I'm sure someone will be along any moment now to calmly and non-trollingly explain to us.

We're all waiting.

It's like arguing with Creationist (exactly like that, oddly enough) where they just nitpick holes in evolution and then go "Well then God did it by default, don't have to explain it any further.)
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
"Father why is Mommy dead?"
"Well she died because she couldn't get an abortion."
"Why"
"Because the Democrats didn't EARN my vote hard enough."

You know you could just be a base decent human being and be politically active in a way that is going to do the most good for the most people instead of acting out this "Beg for my vote. BEG FOR IT!" routine.
Knock down that strawman all you want. It's not going to add a single vote on its own. Today we're seeing the limit that voting against gets you. Will it be enough? I sure as hell hope so. I really do. But if it isn't, no matter how much you might hate and accuse voters for it then you do, you really truly do need to get off your ass and convince them that you'll make make positive changes. That's what the Democrats have utterly failed at and show no signs of understanding so long as there's someone so much worse for them to point at instead.

Take abortion. Without taking to account anything about how Republicans are sexist sons of Nazi bitches who don't deserve the time of day, I agree that they are, what do you think Democrats are going to do about preserving and reinstating abortion rights? Not what will they say or attempt, what will they actually do? How many extra Senate seats do you think it'll take for them to pass a law federally codifying abortion rights? 52? 56? Will they even bother given it will be immediately challenged and struck down by the stacked Supreme Court? Are they intending to do anything about that? Or will they make a token effort but shut down at the first sign of conflict like they have for every damn thing in the past and tell voters they really don't deserve to expect anything more?

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I'd love to know what the Republicans did to "earn" everyone's vote who's throwing that phrase around like so much confetti
Are you ******* serious?
6-3 SCOTUS
DoJ too chickencrap to lift a finger toward anyone with an R
Brown people and whores getting put in their place
Literal goddamn fascism eroding democracy

They've done nothing but earn votes from a position of very little power but even less honor. This is what those voters wanted. They want the leopards. This is how their vote was earned. Evil and horrible asks, yes, but they were delivered. They did what people wanted them to. That's how you can get into power even if you've got nothing but, again, literal goddamn fascism to go on, so long as the opposing party refuses to do the same out of sheer hubris and contempt for their potential supporters.
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