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View Poll Results: What will Trump's big 'announcement' be on Tuesday?
He is officially running for president 20 35.71%
An unofficial "Thinking of running" but not officially running for president 9 16.07%
Legal action of some time (such as against criminal investigations into his activities) 0 0%
Something business-related 0 0%
No announcement, just ranting 15 26.79%
Announcement gets cancelled 4 7.14%
Something else 3 5.36%
Trump is from planet X, and will now be returning home 5 8.93%
Voters: 56. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 15th November 2022, 09:25 PM   #121
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Did he actually run a policy of death penalty for drug dealers? Or was he just rambling incoherantly.
It's like declassifying documents. He just had to think about it.
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
You have to admit that this is a delicious development. I mean, it throws so many clanging monkey wrenches into the mix. Should be entertaining, at the very least.
Really? How so? You seem like the kind of guy who let his own house burn, in the belief that it will spread to the house of "that neighbour I hate" and let's face it, "the flames look so pretty in the night."
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Yeah. And he does not even want to bring them to trial.
He has been proposing that for years.
Don Jr. will be VERY sad about all his "friends "being exterminated.
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Looks like the crazy old uncle who keeps turning up to Christmas Dinner every year is running for president... again!
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
What gets to me is he is not even a clever liar. His lies are so damn easy to expose.
His sycophants don't care if his lies are exposed.
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His sycophants don't care if his lies are exposed.
I mean, we just need to read the post of the recently returned prodigal to understand this. It is all about "owning the libs"
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Jesus, now I have to root for DeSantis? ****.
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You know what would RESULT own the Libs? For some Big Republican Donor to spend a billion to fight child poverty and climate change.
That would be a kick in the nuts.
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Seems to be an undue amount of handwringing in this thread over Trump’s announcement.

Trumpism was soundly rejected at the ballot box this election cycle and Trump continues to be a reviled figure. There’s no realistic scenario that puts him back in office. The only result of him running again will be the further immolation of the Republican Party, which will be delightful to watch.

Get your popcorn out, folks. This is going to be fun.
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I'm not worried about Trump winning, I'm worried about him blowing his load now instead of close to the election to play havock with the Republican nomination.
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Originally Posted by johnny karate View Post
Seems to be an undue amount of handwringing in this thread over Trump’s announcement.

Trumpism was soundly rejected at the ballot box this election cycle and Trump continues to be a reviled figure. There’s no realistic scenario that puts him back in office. The only result of him running again will be the further immolation of the Republican Party, which will be delightful to watch.

Get your popcorn out, folks. This is going to be fun.
I think it is justified...The American polity has a tendency to surprise....often not in a good way.
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He's running again.

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Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday filed his paperwork establishing his candidacy to run for the presidency again in 2024.
Well, that's a thing that happened.

I assume Moscow Mitch and other republicans are in panic mode right now.

For me, I am most interested in 2 issues:

- Will the republican party follow through on their plan to cut funding for Trump's legal team? They claimed they would if he decided to run again (since they "can't play favorites"), but I would not be surprised if they kept paying for his lawyers as a way to keep him happy (with some excuse like "its not primary season yet", or "we will pay for lawyers for current cases but not future cases")

- How will this impact any potential upcoming indictments? The DoJ does have a policy of not interfering in elections. They could simply back off and not charge him, they could appoint a special council, or they could just go ahead and charge him like normal. (I hope they do charge him... he has broken too many crimes to just let things go, and appointing a special council to handle things will just add unnecessary delay)
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Originally Posted by johnny karate View Post
Seems to be an undue amount of handwringing in this thread over Trump’s announcement.

Trumpism was soundly rejected at the ballot box this election cycle and Trump continues to be a reviled figure. There’s no realistic scenario that puts him back in office. The only result of him running again will be the further immolation of the Republican Party, which will be delightful to watch.

Get your popcorn out, folks. This is going to be fun.
I think Trump's candidacy will be harmful to the republicans, and he has a very low chance of winning the presidency.

But, its like russian roulette... you can't completely dismiss the risks, because if Trump happens to win, it will be incredibly bad for the U.S. (and the world as a whole).

Continued economic problems, a few more republican states passing voter suppression laws, some scandal involving biden (or alternatively a democratic primary that sees an unpopular leader win) all happening at the same time might allow Stubby McBonespurs to win again.
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I think it is justified...The American polity has a tendency to surprise....often not in a good way.
He has none of the advantages he had in 2016 and the American electorate just rejected his brand of politics for the third time in a row.

I’m not seeing it.
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
I think Trump's candidacy will be harmful to the republicans, and he has a very low chance of winning the presidency.

But, its like russian roulette... you can't completely dismiss the risks, because if Trump happens to win, it will be incredibly bad for the U.S. (and the world as a whole).

Continued economic problems, a few more republican states passing voter suppression laws, some scandal involving biden (or alternatively a democratic primary that sees an unpopular leader win) all happening at the same time might allow Stubby McBonespurs to win again.
Not gonna happen. I don’t ever make political predictions but I feel very confident about this one. Feel free to bookmark this post for future reference.
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How will this impact any potential upcoming indictments? The DoJ does have a policy of not interfering in elections. They could simply back off and not charge him, they could appoint a special council, or they could just go ahead and charge him like normal. (I hope they do charge him... he has broken too many crimes to just let things go, and appointing a special council to handle things will just add unnecessary delay)
I seriously doubt that announcing your candidacy for president is some kind of loophole to avoid criminal indictment. Trump remains a private citizen and the investigations he is under will continue unabated.
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From: Business Insider
Donald Trump officially launched his 2024 presidential campaign on Tuesday at his Mar-a-Lago resort.... Eric Trump, his wife Lara Trump, Jared Kushner, and Barron Trump, Donald Trump's youngest son, were seen entering the ballroom together...Notably, Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump, and Tiffany Trump were not immediately spotted... During his announcement, Trump took a moment to only highlight Eric Trump and his wife.... Sources also told The New York Post that Donald Trump pleaded to Ivanka Trump and his son-in-law to join him for his campaign announcement

Ivanka has said that she plans to "stay out of the political spotlight" in order to prioritize spending time with her family (and not, as we actually know, because she is tired of being treated as a pariah. "Why aren't we invited to the best parties anymore? All we did was support a racist con-artist while he tried to destroy the country")
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Originally Posted by johnny karate View Post
Seems to be an undue amount of handwringing in this thread over Trump’s announcement.

Trumpism was soundly rejected at the ballot box this election cycle and Trump continues to be a reviled figure. There’s no realistic scenario that puts him back in office. The only result of him running again will be the further immolation of the Republican Party, which will be delightful to watch.

Get your popcorn out, folks. This is going to be fun.
Given how badly the party has destroyed election integrity in the states it controls, if he won the nomiation by a margin, he'll be installed as president again, no matter how badly he's beaten tin the election.
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Is Trump running for POTUS and DeSantis as VP not an option?
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I seriously doubt that announcing your candidacy for president is some kind of loophole to avoid criminal indictment. Trump remains a private citizen and the investigations he is under will continue unabated.
I agree. Besides it's too far out from the next election. I mean, who declares they're running a full two years before? He's such a loser.
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Is Trump running for POTUS and DeSantis as VP not an option?
The Secret Service would object to them ever being in the same room.
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Is Trump running for POTUS and DeSantis as VP not an option?
It might very well be. The last few years have demonstrated the utter shamelessness and lack of spine among the Repub politicians. Lindsey, Vance, Cruz have all shown how quickly they are willing to hand over their testicles for those they consider "alpha"
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The Secret Service would object to them ever being in the same room.
The SS wouldn't be the only one.
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Is Trump running for POTUS and DeSantis as VP not an option?
If de Santis wants to become president at some stage, no. His choices for that office is decisively beat Trump in the primaries and hope the republican election stealing machine is enough to install him or wait to 2028. If he accepts the vice president candidacy under Trump, they either lose very badly or Trump, as President, will do to him what he did to Pence.
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Is Trump running for POTUS and DeSantis as VP not an option?
Nope! They despise each other.

Of course, the real reason that The Fat Orange Turd is running for president now is desperation. He thinks it will protect him from his legal jeopardy. How long before we hear something from that fetid pile of feces to the effect of...

"The DOJ cannot investigate or or charge me now because presidential candidates have absolute immunity". Of course, this isn't even a thing, but that wont stop the sycophants and minions from claiming it is. If it were, any two-bit mobster (or should I say, any other two-bit mobster) could just announce a run for president to avoid investigations and prosecutions.
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The Secret Service would object to them ever being in the same room.
The SS wouldn't be the only one.
Oh, I dunno. I thought they could share a jail cell.
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Nope! They despise each other.

Of course, the real reason that The Fat Orange Turd is running for president now is desperation. He thinks it will protect him from his legal jeopardy. How long before we hear something from that fetid pile of feces to the effect of...

"The DOJ cannot investigate or or charge me now because presidential candidates have absolute immunity". Of course, this isn't even a thing, but that wont stop the sycophants and minions from claiming it is. If it were, any two-bit mobster (or should I say, any other two-bit mobster) could just announce a run for president to avoid investigations and prosecutions.
You are VERY wrong!

He's only a one-bit mobster.
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You are VERY wrong!

He's only a one-bit mobster.
I stand corrected!
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Oh, I dunno. I thought they could share a jail cell.
Nah. Trump would be in the psychiatric wing of the jail. DeSantis isn't crazy, just despicable.
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Seems to be an undue amount of handwringing in this thread over Trump’s announcement.



Trumpism was soundly rejected at the ballot box this election cycle and Trump continues to be a reviled figure. There’s no realistic scenario that puts him back in office. The only result of him running again will be the further immolation of the Republican Party, which will be delightful to watch.



Get your popcorn out, folks. This is going to be fun.
That didn't work out too well last time.
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Ha ha! Donald Trump is running for President?!? Donald TRUMP!??

******* hilarious! Wouldn’t it be funny if he ends up with the nomination. Obviously he could never possibly win so the Democrats will win in a landslide.


…. Oh sorry, found this unsent message from 2015. Weirdly, I am seeing some reports that members of the Democratic National Convention are actually happy about this because…. No way can he win! Holy ****.
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I don't think Democrats are happy about the Timing - Trump announcing now means that he's old news by the time of the Nomination and probably a pushover for a DeSantis type.
And being able to ditch Trump for 2024 will allow all the never-Trumpers to vote Red again.
Many people truly resent Democrats for being the only palatable thing on the Menu.
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I think it is justified...The American polity has a tendency to surprise....often not in a good way.
Yeah. This 'repudiation' of the GQP/Trumpisk was a squeaker. And the electorate has the kind of short memory that results in bafflingly pendular, whip-saw swings.

The very fact that this traitor, at this late juncture, is still free and allowed to run for POTUS again is a damning indictment against a country gone mad.
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Many people truly resent Democrats for being the only palatable thing on the Menu.
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Yeah. This 'repudiation' of the GQP/Trumpisk was a squeaker. And the electorate has the kind of short memory that results in bafflingly pendular, whip-saw swings.

The very fact that this traitor, at this late juncture, is still free and allowed to run for POTUS again is a damning indictment against a country gone mad.
Only if you ignore he lost in 2020.
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That didn't work out too well last time.
This cosmos aligned in 2016 in such a manner that I'm dubious about the predictive value.
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Apparently FOX news cut away from Trumps announcement after he said he was running and was getting boring.
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Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle View Post
Given how badly the party has destroyed election integrity in the states it controls, if he won the nomiation by a margin, he'll be installed as president again, no matter how badly he's beaten tin the election.
Election deniers running for Secretary of State in key swing swing states all lost their elections. Every single one of them. They will have no more control over a federal election than they did in 2020.

Not to mention that this plan didn’t work out too well for them this year.

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Hope and optimism doesn't require letting your guard down.

And let's honest. All the traitors and coup... ers (whatever, you know what I mean) and election deniers failed, but they were never punished.

They have no reason not to try again.

And like all things even if they can't win, I'm tired of being expected to just passively watch them find out where the limits are.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Hope and optimism doesn't require letting your guard down.

And let's honest. All the traitors and coup... ers (whatever, you know what I mean) and election deniers failed, but they were never punished.

They have no reason not to try again.

And like all things even if they can't win, I'm tired of being expected to just passively watch them find out where the limits are.
100% agree. We should remain vigilant. But we did it three elections in a row, and we can do it again.

ETA: Okay, actually 90% agree. The election deniers were punished. At the ballot box.

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