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Old 8th October 2019, 09:21 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Nope. Propofol is the sedative. The amnesia drug is Midazolam aka Versed.

And yet, when I search Google for milk of amnesia, all I get are pages and pages of returns about propofol - including articles in medical journals and other scholarly works. All of them say propofol is a hypnotic which causes antegrade amnesia.
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Old 9th October 2019, 03:45 AM   #42
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I have one scheduled soon. For some reason, I'm scared. It seems, based on other tests and symptoms, that, according to my doctor, I may have cancer.

It will be what it will be. In the mean time, I am worried about the test. Does anyone have feedback from experience? Thank you.
I hope you are OK.

I have had three colonoscopies. The tricky part is the drink they give to clean you out - tastes disgusting.

After that it is all pretty easy. Let us know how you go.
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Old 9th October 2019, 04:12 AM   #43
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My first one was without sedation, the anesthesist wanted to get off for his lunch so it was either reschedule or just have gas and air. It certainly wasn't pleasant but not that painful with the gas and air.

The rest have all been "under" sedation. Which of course isn't really sedation it's dissociation, you still feel the pain at the time but don't remember it. Quite a deep philosophical question, if you don't remember the pain does the pain not matter?
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Old 9th October 2019, 04:13 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Nope. Propofol is the sedative. The amnesia drug is Midazolam aka Versed.
In the UK it is usually Ketamine/Propofol mix.
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Old 9th October 2019, 11:15 AM   #45
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Originally Posted by xjx388 View Post
I got a colonoscopy and an endoscopy the same day. All I remember is telling the Doctor, right before it began, to snap a picture of me with both tubes in so I could share it on Facebook. He laughed . . .then I don't remember a damn thing. Turns out they don't put both tubes in at the same time. Damn it, that would have been a cool picture.
Due to cutbacks - many hospitals use the same systems for both the colonoscopy and endoscopy. Slipping the doctor a $20 before the procedure ensures that the endoscopy is done first.
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Old 9th October 2019, 12:36 PM   #46
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Is there pain afterwards, caused by the procedure?
I had none at all. Didn't feel different in the least.

My colonoscopy was at 10 am. I went to lunch at noon with my wife (I was completely out with propofol)
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Old 9th October 2019, 12:38 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by Loss Leader View Post
Propofol - milk of amnesia
As I was going under, I resisted the temptation to murmer, "More milk..."

(Michael Jackson's last words, reportedly)
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Old 9th October 2019, 12:46 PM   #48
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I didn't have any problem drinking the stuff for the prep. It was a lot of Miralax in Gatorade (electrolytes). The Miralax is generally painless. If I remember right, it was only 2 liters that I had to drink (one 24 hours before and one 12 hours before or less - I remember getting up in the middle of the night to go drink my second bottle)

The main problem with the prep was the constant feeling of having to go. Even as I was hooked up to the IV waiting, I had them help me to the bathroom because I didn't know what was going to come out.
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Old 9th October 2019, 01:41 PM   #49
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I have Crohn's so I have had several colonoscopies - I think I'm up to more than 20 now, but I've long stopped counting them.

The prep is worse than the actual exam in my experience. I've never had sedation as I don't like the way it makes me feel so I manage with gas and air (nitrous oxide) and a bit of healthy swearing when the surgeon is dealing with a stricture or a twist.

My most recent one had water pumped inside rather than air; it was so much quicker to recover from.

The prep - take it as cold as possible - over ice if you can, and through a straw. Keep hydrated; although the more water you drink the more you'll poop, the better you'll feel if you stay hydrated.

The procedure - if you want sedation, have it. But if you decide not to have sedation, then you'll get a fascinating insight into your insides by watching the tv monitor. Hang on to the nurse's hand and suck on the entonox if you need it.

Afterwards - I don't know about recovery from sedation because I haven't ever had it. But from the procedure itself you'll probably feel a bit tired and very hungry. You'll need to fart, don't try to avoid it. If you have crampy feelings, peppermint tea will help. If you have had polyps removed or biopsies, you might have a little rectal bleeding but that should not persist.
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Old 9th October 2019, 02:05 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by wasapi View Post
I have one scheduled soon. For some reason, I'm scared. It seems, based on other tests and symptoms, that, according to my doctor, I may have cancer.

It will be what it will be. In the mean time, I am worried about the test. Does anyone have feedback from experience? Thank you.
As I understand the relevant medical literature, finding - and treating - a cancer in Stage 1 or 2 rather dramatically reduces the later incidence of the cancer recurring, as a Stage 3 or 4 one.

Also, colonoscopies are very good at detecting Stage 1 or 2 colorectal cancers (yes, plural; there are several quite distinct kinds). But, as you probably already know, not perfect. Nor entirely risk free. As your doctor(s) have surely told you.
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Old 9th October 2019, 05:01 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by Agatha View Post
I have Crohn's so I have had several colonoscopies - I think I'm up to more than 20 now, but I've long stopped counting them.

The prep is worse than the actual exam in my experience. I've never had sedation as I don't like the way it makes me feel so I manage with gas and air (nitrous oxide) and a bit of healthy swearing when the surgeon is dealing with a stricture or a twist.

My most recent one had water pumped inside rather than air; it was so much quicker to recover from.

The prep - take it as cold as possible - over ice if you can, and through a straw. Keep hydrated; although the more water you drink the more you'll poop, the better you'll feel if you stay hydrated.

The procedure - if you want sedation, have it. But if you decide not to have sedation, then you'll get a fascinating insight into your insides by watching the tv monitor. Hang on to the nurse's hand and suck on the entonox if you need it.

Afterwards - I don't know about recovery from sedation because I haven't ever had it. But from the procedure itself you'll probably feel a bit tired and very hungry. You'll need to fart, don't try to avoid it. If you have crampy feelings, peppermint tea will help. If you have had polyps removed or biopsies, you might have a little rectal bleeding but that should not persist.
As a veteran of colonoscopy sedation I can assure you that there is no recovery required from the sedation. You just wake up and immediately have all your faculties working normally. The only potential unpleasant experience following the procedure is a bit of abdominal pain if the gas doesn’t pass easily.
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Old 9th October 2019, 07:37 PM   #52
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Old 9th October 2019, 07:49 PM   #53
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As a veteran of colonoscopy sedation I can assure you that there is no recovery required from the sedation. You just wake up and immediately have all your faculties working normally. The only potential unpleasant experience following the procedure is a bit of abdominal pain if the gas doesn’t pass easily.
I think that varies a little. As I mentioned above, my wife, who reacts to many medications and has to take baby doses of almost everything, had memory issues for a couple of hours after, although the complete loss of memory was only for a short while. She was also very hungry, but otherwise there was no effect on faculties or functions. I had no issues at all, and like you just woke up with a portion of my morning left blank. But still, one of the requirements was to have someone to drive you home other than yourself, and whether or not that's a requirement I think it's well advised.
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I think that varies a little. As I mentioned above, my wife, who reacts to many medications and has to take baby doses of almost everything, had memory issues for a couple of hours after, although the complete loss of memory was only for a short while. She was also very hungry, but otherwise there was no effect on faculties or functions. I had no issues at all, and like you just woke up with a portion of my morning left blank. But still, one of the requirements was to have someone to drive you home other than yourself, and whether or not that's a requirement I think it's well advised.
You are right of course. Some people do have out of normal reactions to meds. And needing a driver/escort is a requirement and also a good idea. For most of us after effects of the meds are minimal and not at all uncomfortable. That was the message I wanted to get across to wasapi.
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Old 11th October 2019, 09:55 AM   #55
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I think that varies a little. As I mentioned above, my wife, who reacts to many medications and has to take baby doses of almost everything, had memory issues for a couple of hours after, although the complete loss of memory was only for a short while. She was also very hungry, but otherwise there was no effect on faculties or functions. I had no issues at all, and like you just woke up with a portion of my morning left blank. But still, one of the requirements was to have someone to drive you home other than yourself, and whether or not that's a requirement I think it's well advised.
Is she a redhead?
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Is she a redhead?
No.
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Old 12th October 2019, 10:18 AM   #57
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I think this thread inspired my dream last night. I was going in to have a multioptipupiloptomy (from Hot Shots - look it up)

I woke up before it got started, but I was in position
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I had to go through 3 colonoscopies in a few months when I had ileitis.
The two done while in the hospital were miserable experiences - unflavored 4-liter bottle routine while in a shared room. The last one, done when I was at home, went much easier. It was the same amount of liquid, but the pharmacy included a packet of lemon flavouring which made it much easier to chug it down rapidly, and it was cold, which also makes a huge difference. The faster you can drink it, the sooner it's done coming back out.

I also swallowed my pride and got some diaper rash ointment, the thickest, stickiest zinc oxide one I could find, and applied a protective coat of that before I started drinking.

Those tricks plus wet wipes made all the difference in the world the third time. The prep went smoothly, so did the colonoscopy, and all they found were a couple of tiny polyps which were dealt with on the spot, and came back clean on the pathology exam. Knowing those tricks makes me perfectly calm about future exams.
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Oh, forgot to add: if the pharmacy doesn't have flavouring, apparently Crystal Light lemonade mix works without adding a bunch of sugar or colour.
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I did that three years ago, and it just expired. I've heard that the reliability is questionable, and the manufacturer explicitly states that it's definitely not suitable for people at higher risk.

I really should be having colonoscopies, because my grandfather died of an undetermined form of abdominal cancer, and he'd had some polyps removed a few years previously. (He neglected his own health to care for my grandmother during the last few years of her life, so his cancer wasn't diagnosed until it was far too late, and he died a month after she did.) However, because of my weight, I've been advised that I can't have a colonoscopy. I should have had one late last fall when I was down to 270, but I'm up over 100 lbs from that now (though still about 40 less than what I weighed three years ago). I'm going in next Friday for a consultation with my doctor's nurse practitioner about colon cancer screening.
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I should have mentioned that my younger brother just had one; he weighs about 300 lbs at the moment, and he's an inch or two shorter than I. I'm just starting a medically supervised weight loss program; possibly I'll be able to have a colonoscopy in a few months.
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What about that little electronic pill that you can swallow and it can view your insides.

What became of that? Saw it one day on Ripley's Believe it or Not, early 2000s.

It was proposed as an alternative to colonoscopy and general endoscopy.
ISTR the issue with this is that, if a polyp is found, the doctor still has to get . . . um err . . . physical access to your insides to remove it. So the technology may have been OK but the savings (if any) were small.
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I have one scheduled soon. For some reason, I'm scared. It seems, based on other tests and symptoms, that, according to my doctor, I may have cancer.
I hope it isn't. Good luck!
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