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Old 23rd March 2017, 10:49 AM   #321
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I'm disappointed in Les. His Survivorman series was decent. He taped it himself, and most of what he did made sense for someone actually in a survival situation, unlike others who went somewhere just off the highway with a big camera crew and did really stupid dangerous stuff to show how tough they were. I have no idea whether he really believes the bigfoot nonsense or it's just a gimmick to make money, but either way, I've lost a lot of the respect I once had for him.
Meh, he hosts an edited, partially scripted reality show, which means a some of it is staged. He's got a safety team and a dustoff helicopter a satellite phone call away, and much of what he does can be pulled of by any reasonably experienced outdoors enthusiast with a calm mind.

Now, I couldn't out-survive him by any stretch of the imagination, but many others could; I never understood his appeal.
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Old 23rd March 2017, 12:20 PM   #322
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Original meaning was the point when a television series shows it has run out of ideas and must resort to stunts to retain viewer interest. Derived from a scene in the last years of Happy Days when the Fonz waterskied over a shark. Includes actions such as "it was all a dream" episodes, live episodes, lead actors playing guest characters, and putting entire cast into a parody of some pop cultural event.
It looks like "Will and Grace" decided to jump the shark. They are doing a live episode in black and white where they are all characters from Star Wars. Elton John will play Jabba the Hut who shoots Jack with a "straight ray" gun.
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Say, maybe Life Below Zero will have a footie angle this year. That Sue Aikens, who thinks everything from wolverines to wolves are constantly trying to kill her*, could have a stalking bigfoot storyline.



*To be fair, Aikens says she is a bear attack survivor, so her paranoia is understandable.
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Some bigfoot crazy.
http://bigfootforums.com/index.php?/...travel/&page=5
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SWWASAS, you said.."Humans must have done something very bad as a species to BF to get that sort of total avoidance behavior."

Many of us, and I think you included, assume this "something" was our attempting to exterminate them. Looks like we failed (so far), although we succeeded with plenty of other hominid species. I believe this adaptive pressure explains most of the BF behavior witnesses report. Our technology gave us the upper hand in so many evolutionary struggles. Now, we modern humans are like somebody born on third base and who assumes they've hit a triple. Who knows how close a struggle it really was (and probably still is)? We could have narrowly edged our extinct competition out, or it could have been a complete slaughter. At the least, we co-opted their food supply and out reproduced them. Dominating the competition at all costs is what we do. Look out you other monkey peoples, we are going to mess you up but good!
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WSA you very well could be right. If we take archaeological reports from the Mississippi mount builder culture at face value, and hypothesize that the large skeletons found there were first of all BF and secondly were coexisting with humans during that period, one event happened which might explain BF behavior. The Mayan invasion is thought to be the end of the Mound Culture. One Mount culture burial site had large skeleton humanoids laid out with human size bodies in an apparent burial after a massive battle. It appeared that both were fighting on the same side with a common enemy. Mayans killed or captured enemies they encountered during their expansions. Since it is unlikely the small statured Mayans could have captured BF size tribes, what they could not kill outright, probably scattered to the winds avoiding the marauders. The Mound builders were studied by Smithsonian types and suddenly that research came to a screeching halt. The Mound Builders had an advanced new world culture, studied astronomy, predicted astronomical events, had pyramids, and one would think that North American Scientists would be interested in studying that. But it appears to me that something found shut that down. That Mound Culture flies in the face of the Manifest Destiny policy the Smithsonian supported, that Native Americans were nomadic hunter gatherers who had no real ties to real estate. Heaven forbid that the Mound Culture peoples rivaled the Mayans and perhaps the Egyptions much earlier. Throw in a giant people, religious beliefs at the time, especially within the Smithsonian staff, and you have something that the Smithsonian and the US Government did not want to be known. Archaeologists will travel half way around the world to study ancient civilizations in Egypt and ignore something similar in there very own back yard?. Why is that? Does study of the Mound Culture lead to BF? Is that the reason the Government refuses to acknowledge existence of BF? Does a big lie of Manifest Destiny in the 1800s lead to cover up since? Does present day discovery of BF lead backwards to the big lie and cover up in the 1800s? Would the public or scientists demand to know what happened to all the big skeletons? You can be sure they were examined and lab notes created at the time. Are they hidden away in the bowels of the Smithsonian? Or have they been destroyed?

All of that is my personal conjecture, based on history, and what is known. Did BF for long periods in time live in harmony with the Native American people? Did that change with the Mayan invasion, and the soon to fallow European migration of firearm toting white people? Did the human BF equation change from trade and cooperation to one of constant conflict with the European settlers? After all, the Native American culture was under the same pressures at the same time. Armed European origin settlers were hell bent on destroying the Native Americans too. Native Americans in most cases fought back. Was the BF solution just to fade back into the woods and disappear, upon seeing the Native American solution was not working? And then there was the introduction of disease with little or no immunity within the Native American peoples. BF had to have watched as whole Native American tribes died off and perhaps made the connection of white men and disease. If you were a sentient being and watched all of this happen over several hundred years, perhaps you would avoid contact with human beings at all cost too? Is their present recluse behavior simply a manifestation of their tribal oral history? I don't blame them if it is.
I'll be none of you knew this secret natural history of North America. Those ebil, ebil Smithsonians!
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Bowels of the Smithsonian.
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Why do these chuckleheads imagine the Smithsonian is the be-all, end-all repository for the product of all scientific/archeological investigations?
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Another take down of Melba Ketchum's DNA paper:

http://www.dietiefe.com/?p=1870
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Another take down of Melba Ketchum's DNA paper:

http://www.dietiefe.com/?p=1870
Ketchum is a krackpot.
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From Hart's bio...

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A life-long amateur naturalist, Dr. Hart has followed the bigfoot/sasquatch news since the Patterson-Gimlin film.


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Q: Haskell, what’s your take on the Bigfoot phenomenon in general? What are the most likely explanations for the sasquatch in your view?

A: I draw no conclusions so far. So many personal accounts, but so little scientific evidence. I hold out for a documented body or body part.
Been in it since 1967 and still can't recognize it as a myth.
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From Hart's bio...





From the article...


Been in it since 1967 and still can't recognize it as a myth.
He's a member here, no?
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I'm unaware of that.
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I don't know, but I do know that Team Bigfootology advertises the fact that one of their researchers is :
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Somebody pulled a funny...

http://bigfootology.com/?page_id=248
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I don't know, but I do know that Team Bigfootology advertises the fact that one of their researchers is :

Somebody pulled a funny...

http://bigfootology.com/?page_id=248
I am entertained.
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I don't know, but I do know that Team Bigfootology advertises the fact that one of their researchers is :

Somebody pulled a funny...

http://bigfootology.com/?page_id=248
That's an awful lot of people on a team that isn't finding any bigfoots.
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That's an awful lot of [supposedly important] people on a team that isn't finding any bigfoots.
Yet their knowledge and skill in finding Bigfoot is unsurpassed.

"Each person on this team is a valuable member of the team and brings unique skills, knowledge, and understanding, and we are privileged to have their voice as part of this great endeavor of understanding the Bigfoot phenomenon."

FTFY and no I'm not stalking you.
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Motorcyclists come across naked tribesman in Indonesia.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/319500...tribe-picture/

Waiting for Bigfoot must therefore exist threads.
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Mythical Mante tribe? I can't find anything on the web about that myth other than articles about this video. I'm confused.
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Yeah, nothing in google scholar either.
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I suspect that his tribe isn't unknown or mythical and lives near that dirt road for motor vehicles. A fake story to add intrigue to the video. Because it's pretty boring if you title the YouTube video, "Local dude runs away from douchebag bikers".
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Craig Woolheater at Cryptomundo is asking if the guy in the video is an Orang Pendek.
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So he takes "Human from lost tribe of Mante" and turns it into:

"Indonesian Bigfoot"
Which, I might add, is said to possess the following:
*blackish-brown, red-brown, golden-brown, yellow,or orange fur
*short-legged with long, powerful arms
*seen in trees
*inverted feet, to hide direction of travel

0 for 4 on my scoresheet.
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Motorcyclists come across naked tribesman in Indonesia.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/319500...tribe-picture/

Waiting for Bigfoot must therefore exist threads.
Since it's the reputed home of the Orang Pendek I was awaiting similar "Orang Pendek must surely be real" comments.
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Craig Woolheater at Cryptomundo is asking if the guy in the video is an Orang Pendek.
Never saw that before I posted, lol. Craig Woolheater, that guy is a true woo-peddler. Trust him to start waffling on about the Orang Pendek.
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I suspect that his tribe isn't unknown or mythical and lives near that dirt road for motor vehicles. A fake story to add intrigue to the video. Because it's pretty boring if you title the YouTube video, "Local dude runs away from douchebag bikers".
It looks staged to me.
Is it implied that the biker on the ground at the start of the video was knocked off by the guy they then chase?

My BiL and his sons ride bike and their GoPro videos are of really high quality - even as they slam into a tree or drop the bike in a dirty great mud hole.
These guys are professional videographers (if I have the correct bunch, Fredography) and what do we get? Video that would shame the quality of a 15yr old Nokia.
Hell, I have a 10yr old Veho Muvi that takes better video that these jokers.

Typical cryptos - use the crappiest quality equipment you can find and film blobsquatch.
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It looks staged to me. Is it implied that the biker on the ground at the start of the video was knocked off by the guy they then chase?
I don't know what the filmers are claiming happened. It sure could be a staged hoax. There ought to be footage before and after the short scene.

Regardless, I don't think it's a remarkable thing for most viewers. We already know that that country has little forest tribe guys who carry things like sticks.

If you want to make an impressive hoax then put him in a hairy costume.
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As I've said before, Bigfoot's days are numbered in terms of it being a hot-topic in the world of pop culture and interest. At the height of Monster-Quest and (Never) Finding Bigfoot, Bigfoot was riding a wave of popularity (in terms of entertainment, anyway) and now it's slowly sinking back into its dusty corner, next to Mermaids and Mothman.

When you'd see those town meetings on episodes of FB, those people in attendance are likely the kind of people I'd imagine to get bored of the whole game after a year or so, and move onto ghosts, or UFOs. There's so much more room for continued entertainment and hijinx with ghosts and aliens.
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As I've said before, Bigfoot's days are numbered in terms of it being a hot-topic in the world of pop culture and interest. At the height of Monster-Quest and (Never) Finding Bigfoot, Bigfoot was riding a wave of popularity (in terms of entertainment, anyway) and now it's slowly sinking back into its dusty corner, next to Mermaids and Mothman.

When you'd see those town meetings on episodes of FB, those people in attendance are likely the kind of people I'd imagine to get bored of the whole game after a year or so, and move onto ghosts, or UFOs. There's so much more room for continued entertainment and hijinx with ghosts and aliens.
There is no short supply of the credulous though. Like any fringe belief, bigfoot is a niche market and there will always be folks trying to sell, say, a candy or pig-tossing footie, as well as someone wiling to buy. Sometimes the buyer/seller is the same person. It's been my experience that footers, like most fringe believers, are fabulists with a built-in mechanism to believe. It's how they sell themselves the idea of a forest ninja that's seen or heard or smelled or felt, but never documented. Silly people will always find silliness.
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There is no short supply of the credulous though. Like any fringe belief, bigfoot is a niche market and there will always be folks trying to sell, say, a candy or pig-tossing footie, as well as someone wiling to buy. Sometimes the buyer/seller is the same person. It's been my experience that footers, like most fringe believers, are fabulists with a built-in mechanism to believe. It's how they sell themselves the idea of a forest ninja that's seen or heard or smelled or felt, but never documented. Silly people will always find silliness.
Definitely. I think there'll always be a subculture of people devoted to all things Bigfoot, and I guess we're in some way part of that subculture. Although it's definitely not what it once was. That being said, I don't participate on the BFF, so I rarely get to encounter Footers much anymore, which is a bloody shame, tbh!

I just wish we'd see more active participation from these groups of Weekend Warriors. There seems to be a total lack of effort with regards to hoaxing these days, and they all opt to go for the "camouflaged habituation detective" game instead, which requires less skill, less effort and is more akin to actual role-playing games than the kind of "Bigfootin'" that Roger Patterson was keen on. Hell, even Rick Dyer went balls-to-the-walls and did it the old way, despite it being silly. He at least tried, and that's what I commend him for.

These Footers need to up their games, as it's getting stale and it's losing the interest of passionate monster-fans worldwide, myself included.
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Well that did it for me. Bigfoot is real, obviously.
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Anyone know if DWA got caught up in another footie April Fools gag?
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Never saw that before I posted, lol. Craig Woolheater, that guy is a true woo-peddler. Trust him to start waffling on about the Orang Pendek.
A little humorous aside: A few years back I went on a tour of the infamous Fouke Monster sighting locations in Arkansas. Folks were supposed to hook up in Jefferson, Texas where a weekend crypto conference was coming to a close.

A buddy and I went and met up with Woolheater, Loren Coleman, a couple of NAWAC folks, the author of a new book, The Beast of Boggy Creek, and attendees of the conference. We all took our own vehicles to drive the 20 or so miles to Fouke and to the Monster Mart there.

Well, we all made it there in staggered time, except one vehicle. We waited, and waited, and waited. Finally, the last vehicle showed up; the driver claimed he had gotten lost.

The driver was Craig Woolheater and his passenger was Loren Coleman.

Obviously, there was some symbolism or metaphor at play that day.
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Maybe Bigfoot encounter debriefings should concentrate more on questions like "Did you ingest the 16 drugs in your system before or after the encounter?" and "Do you realize the bigger the Bigfoot the higher tier Bigfoot Chickô you're eligible for?" and of course "Why does it show here you've been incarcerated at Patton State Hospital three different times for phoning in threats to zoo animals?"
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Anyone know if DWA got caught up in another footie April Fools gag?
Curiously, it's also true that April 1st is the least of that guy's problems.
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Old 4th April 2017, 04:46 AM   #354
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So, I guess the new Ghost Recon game has a Yeti/sasquatch easter egg imbedded in it.

They have Yeti-hunting gear and clues to the Yeti.

On youtube, all of these gamers are trying to find the yeti, to no avail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DjePqqFb64


You can searh Yeti Ghost Recon on Youtube to find other videos.
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Originally Posted by jerrywayne View Post
A little humorous aside: A few years back I went on a tour of the infamous Fouke Monster sighting locations in Arkansas. Folks were supposed to hook up in Jefferson, Texas where a weekend crypto conference was coming to a close.

A buddy and I went and met up with Woolheater, Loren Coleman, a couple of NAWAC folks, the author of a new book, The Beast of Boggy Creek, and attendees of the conference. We all took our own vehicles to drive the 20 or so miles to Fouke and to the Monster Mart there.

Well, we all made it there in staggered time, except one vehicle. We waited, and waited, and waited. Finally, the last vehicle showed up; the driver claimed he had gotten lost.

The driver was Craig Woolheater and his passenger was Loren Coleman.

Obviously, there was some symbolism or metaphor at play that day.
There's definitely a fitting metaphor there indeed. I'm surprised you didn't see that other bloody sap, Lyle Blackburn, lol. Wherever those two go, he's normally not that far behind. That'd have been a right Trio of Tripe!
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There's definitely a fitting metaphor there indeed. I'm surprised you didn't see that other bloody sap, Lyle Blackburn, lol. Wherever those two go, he's normally not that far behind. That'd have been a right Trio of Tripe!
There's the entire Bigfoot problem in one word, somebody named Lyle is involved.
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There's definitely a fitting metaphor there indeed. I'm surprised you didn't see that other bloody sap, Lyle Blackburn, lol. Wherever those two go, he's normally not that far behind. That'd have been a right Trio of Tripe!
Funny. Blackburn was there -- he's the author of The Beast of Boggy Creek. Jerry Halstead was there, as was Kathy Strain. I talked briefly with Lyle and Loren and they were kind enough to autograph my copy of Lyle's book. (Loren wrote the introduction).

A few things I learned:

-- Lyle seemed sincere, but too gullible. When he arrived at the Monster Mart, an employee told him that someone wanting to remain anonymous had come into the store a couple of days earlier with a sighting story on a nearby road that had had previous monster encounter stories based there. When we all went to this road later, wooded forest on one side and heavy brush on the other, Lyle mentioned the sightings there, including the one he just heard about. What's worse, within the week he published this unvetted sighting story on his web page as the most current encounter.

-- The Legend of Boggy Creek movie seems to be responsible for a lot of folks interest in Bigfoot. The climax of the film was the Ford Family Incident: two families in a rental house in Fouke were terrorized one night by a hairy intruder, as based on press clippings of the event. The location portrayed in the film seemed spookily remote. Our tour finished up at the location, although the house no longer stands. To my surprise, the house was located a football pass (by Brett Favre) distance from the main high-way. And not near any body of water that would draw in an alleged monster.

-- As a bonus, we visited (the now late) Smokey Crabtree's home, where he had a trailer bookstore and an exhibit of the skeletal remains of some large animal discovered in the woods between Fouke and Shreveport. Smokey was pawning off the remains as possibly from the Fouke Monster itself and charging a modest fee to view the exhibit. The funny thing is, I once tangled with Strain (Hairy Man) at BFF over the issue of Crabtree's profit motive in promoting monster lore in Fouke and mentioned the skeleton exhibit (btw, the remains are that of a tiger, minus its head). Strain assured BFF that she had visited Crabtree previously, viewed the skeleton exhibit uncharged, and that Smokey was a straight up guy. That day in Fouke, I wondered what Kathy was thinking when Smokey mentioned the remains and the fee to see it.

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-- As a bonus, we visited (the now late) Smokey Crabtree's home . . .
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Kin to Rancid?
Rancid now, I'm guessing. (Pardon the dark humor).
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Originally Posted by HarryHenderson View Post
There's the entire Bigfoot problem in one word, somebody named Lyle is involved.
I always think of Tate and Lyle, whenever I heard or read the name "Lyle," well...I used to, now I just think of that Blackburn bloke, the Hanoi Rocks lookalike who always takes "moody" selfies of himself looking wise and troubled, lol.
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