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3rd November 2020, 05:28 AM | #2321 |
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For a laugh, and because PartSkeptic was kind enough to supply the rope with which to hang himself, I looked up these cards.
The King of Cups
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That is about as far away from Donald Trump as it's possible to go. The Ace of Swords
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3rd November 2020, 08:08 AM | #2322 |
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3rd November 2020, 04:07 PM | #2323 |
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3rd November 2020, 05:29 PM | #2324 |
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Re: the highlighted.. Previously you claimed that people, including you, could detect said exposure. Within 15 minutes was your claim i think. You retracted said claim after being in the position to demonstrate it, but choosing not to, yeah. I don't understand why you think you can just pretend it didn't happen? Resetting yourself does not reset everyone else. |
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4th November 2020, 01:09 AM | #2326 |
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Oops!
Still doesn't matter as far as the description of Trump goes. Here's the Knight:
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Still no idea where PS got his 'intelligent hopeful' idea from. Maybe god told him. "Don't worry about the real meanings of the cards, oh special and chosen one. Invent your own meanings, oh most favoured in my eyes, and let the unbelievers scoff. We know the truth, precious, don't we?" |
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4th November 2020, 06:26 AM | #2327 |
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Too busy to read replies so far. Having to fix the results of a bad lightning strike on a factory. Computer, modem, CCTV system, alarm system and other things all damaged. And problems with companies (like Microsoft) who issues make like re-registering software very difficult. Even the dealer could not get it right. I had to buy a new license.
Anyhow. Once more a close race. But Trump is asking for money to go to Court. Trump may win, and if so, I will concede that the cards were wrong. And no, I will not forget I was wrong if I am wrong. I still have faith the cards are correct. I do not need to see what will happen under a Biden presidency. Would be interesting, but I only use the cards on a need to know basis and not to entertain myself or others. I think that the media has been so against Trump that they may have swayed enough undecided voters. Besides, his foreign policy, belligerence and anti-climate views are problematic for both me and many voters. |
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4th November 2020, 10:53 AM | #2328 |
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4th November 2020, 04:03 PM | #2329 |
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False. You simply do not want to deal with replies because you cannot.
That was your god smiting you, right? It is trivially easy. You will find some arbitrary way to claim you are correct. It is not your country nor mine, so you do not need to know at all. But you do it anyway. You are not a voter in the US election. |
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4th November 2020, 11:54 PM | #2330 |
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You got some info. Feel free to discuss it in the group. Do you avoid watching/reading the mainstream media because they do not respond to you? Odd. I am doing a prediction once more based on Tarot cards. Take it or leave it. BTW. I do not need others to give me approval. I do not need ego stroking. Yes, I have used this platform to publicly put on record a prediction - but so what. I have a record of being right. Others manipulate the truth to make it seem I am not correct but people can make up their own minds. |
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5th November 2020, 12:15 AM | #2331 |
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No, it was God giving me new lessons. And possibly slowing me down on some other projects that may need a slower pace.
I never see problems as being "smited". Life is suffering (like Buddha says), and life is learning. I just work harder. The benefit to me was that the obligations and work made me stronger and more healthy. I had been suffering more than usual in the last few months. Yesterday I got the CNC wire bending machine working in emergency mode until we get a replacement part, and I got a legal notice done to oppose legal costs against me. I said "Thank you God". The hassles also delayed my installation of a drainage system around the house. Luckily it did. I had not cast the shed concrete slab either. It will over the drainage piping. We had our first heavy rain. I am going to have to lift up the small amount of drain pipe I installed because the outflow is too low. Instead of a massive project, it is now easily correctable. Another thank you due. Another example. My uncle went to the USA in November 2019 to visit his daughter. They tried twice to get a US visa and twice they were rejected. He is 91 and his wife passed away in May 2019. He had to return, but Covid stopped that. They, and the family, prayed hard he would get a visa. They were disappointed it did not happen. Then he needed an operation to remove a skin cancer. Complications with his heart happened and he needed extensive medical care and still does. The bills were $300,000 and rising and his daughter could not afford them. They applied for a charitable grant from the US. He got it. All past and future expenses paid, and a 1 year visa. Had he got the visa that they applied for, they would have had some serious medical bills. They are convinced that God did not help with the original visa because God could see what was coming. The whole extended family feels that God truly blessed them. |
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5th November 2020, 12:30 AM | #2332 |
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You have a different book. Mine says. " A young man of high intelligence". Trump is intelligent. He has the looks and energy of a young man. Mine also says "The coming or going of a matter involving the emotions". I also look at the picture and "feel" the message. Here is a warrior going into battle, and he is hoping for a good outcome. He rides a horse which one could interpret as his supporters. The direction has a possible mountain in front which means he has a possible uphill struggle.
There are two aspects to reading the cards. One is getting the right cards, and the other is interpreting the words and the picture and getting feelings. If I have some personal information about the situation (sometimes I do not) then that comes into play. That is not cheating, it is like looking at a picture torn in half and getting information on the missing half (the future) using the existing half (the past). Oh yes, scoff all you like. Like fake news, it does not change the truth. |
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Thanks. The deck is designed by Pamela Smith and the book is written by Eden Gray. I find many modern decks and books too superficial and intended to get sales to novices. Tarot is not a computer program. The deck is subtly affected by the spirit intelligence to get cards that will be meaningful to the reader. Then the spirits communicate quietly with the reader to influence the reader's thoughts. My late wife tried hard to get readings and I had to point out the both the cards were wrong and so was her interpretation. |
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Once again, I thank you for providing the rope with which to hang yourself.
The book you say you are using is available as a pdf online, for free. Guess what? The description you give is nothing like the one in the book you say you're using.
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What exactly does this mean? Surely the whole point of the Tarot is you read the cards you turn over? There is, as far as I am aware (and, yes, I've studied Tarot and done readings myself), no option of rejecting the "wrong" cards and choosing again. Incidentally, the gray book lays out 3 different methods for reading the cards- the Celtic Cross, the Horoscope and the Tree of Life. It does not mention your own method of simply turning over 3 cards and doing a reading from that. Do you only rely on this book when it's convenient, or is there some rationale behind your own personal spread? If there is a difference between this and simply making it up on the fly, I fail to see it. The cards have specific meanings. You don't get to change those meanings to suit your personal biases. You may as well drop the charade of pretending to read the cards, and just admit you make it all up. You have consistently demonstrated a total inability to distinguish truth from lie, and truth from fantasy. |
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I had muesli for breakfast this morning.
It was nice. Frost last night, and a misty start to the morning. It's sunny now. I went to the supermarket and did my weekly food shop. God didn't carry my bags, which made me mildly disappointed. Seriously, PartSkeptic, enough of the rambling personal blog. |
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Guy fails to get much wanted visa, then gets cancer and extensive medical complications. Doesn't hold God responsible for any of it, even though (if he exists) he obviously is.
Following all this bad luck guy gets a single piece of good luck, and this he does decide is God's work. It's almost as if he first decided what he would like to believe and then twisted and interpreted everything that happened to him to fit that belief, no matter how obviously ridiculous his "reasoning". |
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Too busy to read replies at the moment.
I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure. |
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5th November 2020, 10:22 AM | #2340 |
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I have a pack of Tarot cards. I'm going to ask them if PartSkeptic is ever going to get round to doing his wifi/headache/whatever test.
Card 1: Death Card 2: The Fool Card 3: The Magician What does that mean for the future of PartSkeptic's test? My gut says that it means **** all, but I'd like to hear PartSkeptic's interpretation of the cards. |
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The Fool is a member here, on this forum founded by a magician, who is dead.
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There are two ways to ask a question. In the positive and in the negative. I first asked the cards whether I should ask "Will Trump win?" or "Will Trump lose". My question was the second. A "yes" is an Ace up.
So the answer was two yes cards saying Trump will lose. One was Swords, indicating lawsuits and the other was Pentacles indicating money. These would not have come up if the result was as pollsters predicted - a blowout leaving Trump no option but to concede. So even they gave information - an indication of a close race leading to litigation and lots of money being spent. I gave a short, sharp and accurate prediction. Your answer is indicative of confirmation bias. You see what you want to see. You do not want to accept that dumb cards can be intelligent (that is, influenced by a spirit intelligence such as God). And yet atheists claim that dumb matter can arrange itself into intelligent life forms. Which claim is more unbelievable? |
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Originally Posted by PartSkeptic;first of November
Originally Posted by PartSkeptic; fifth of November
http://tarotheaven.com/ace-of-swords.html You are making this up, as you go again.
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https://www.7thsensepsychics.com/sto...ntacles-tarot/ So again, as Trump already has money , you made this up. Trump is losing money at the moment. What exact "Tarot interpretation" book are you using? |
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No it is not. Reversing the card reverses the meaning of the card: that meaning is not necessarily a 'yes' or 'no'.
Utter tosh. From the book you claim to be using: Ace of Swords up:
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Note also that the book you say you are using makes no mention of lawsuits. Ace of Pentacles, up:
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Nonsense. You have no way of knowing what cards would have come up if Trump was ahead, and the cards that did come up are positive towards Trump. They also don't mean what you say they mean. No, you really didn't. You just made stuff up. No, it is not. I looked up the meaning of the cards you gave, in the book you rely on, and quoted that verbatim. You, on the other hand, have simply invented meanings for the cards, and then interpreted them in a way entirely inconsistent with what the cards actually say. Prove the influence of a 'spirit intelligence' on the cards, and explain why that spirit is not vexed with you for ignoring that influence. Strawman of atheist beliefs, coupled with an argument from incredulity. Claim rejected. |
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Given that we have mountains of evidence for, and a good understanding of, the process by which natural selection will produce complex lifeforms and have neither for your claim (plus plenty of good reasons to consider it highly unlikely), the answer is: yours, by a country mile.
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It's the way tarot works.
Learn the traditional interpretations first, then make up your own. It's facile ego stroking. I learned this back when I investigated tarot seriously many years ago. My own favoured deck is stored wrapped in silk, in a sealed wooden box to keep out the evil spirits. Why do I still do that? Because it aesthetically appeals to me and makes for a nice conversation piece in my home. Is any of it real? Nope. Bar the physical existence of the cards, the silk and the wooden box. Those are real. And there reality stops and fantasy begins. Why it is that PS has faith in the cards is rather odd given that his deity of choice forbids them. |
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Except that PartSkeptic originally said his interpretations came from a specific book. Others reading the same book find that it says something different than what PartSkeptic represents. I agree that having one's own Tarot-reading style is stock in trade. And other Tarot experts long ago pointed out that PartSkeptics' interpretations are...unique. But this is a much simpler matter of apparently lying about what the text of a book says.
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While this is what Democratic commentators were hoping for, and what they believed they needed in order to achieve an unassailable victory, this was not what "pollsters" predicted would happen. Once again the world has simply unfolded the way it was expected to, and you're trying to take credit after the fact for supposedly having predicted it.
You are not a prophet. In fact, you're not even very good at faking being a prophet.
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In what you call "dumb" matter, we can observe the kind of behavior that gives rise to increasingly complex arrangements. We don't have to invent magical beings or forces to make it happen. Having observed that it forms a chaotic system that increases in complexity with local influx of energy, it simply requires multitudes of combinations to arise over a long time, and the overwhelmingly vast majority of those combinations to be discarded via natural selection. As you do with every attempt you've made to claim supernatural powers, you ignore the discards and focus only on the accidental successes, and pretend that constitutes some kind of miracle. |
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Much more like the Moreno/USNS Mercy derailment!
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