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Old 26th October 2017, 03:49 AM   #121
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This is less understandable than the people parodying you above.
Main parody is you are not understanding me. May it be for any odd reason or for destiny need.
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Old 26th October 2017, 03:56 AM   #122
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It's for the simple reason that most of your posts are incoherent. ^^^^^^^^^ being a case in point.
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Old 26th October 2017, 04:11 AM   #123
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Originally Posted by Kumar View Post
Main parody is you are not understanding me. May it be for any odd reason or for destiny need.
Most posters don't understand you for the simple reason that the majority of your posts are incomprehensible.

Don't be misled by the fact that a few of us (mostly those who have been trying to make sense of what you say for years) are occasionally able to deduce your intended meaning. The majority of what you write is still incomprehensible, even to us.
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Old 26th October 2017, 04:21 AM   #124
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Originally Posted by Pixel42 View Post
Most posters don't understand you for the simple reason that the majority of your posts are incomprehensible.

Don't be misled by the fact that a few of us (mostly those who have been trying to make sense of what you say for years) are occasionally able to deduce your intended meaning. The majority of what you write is still incomprehensible, even to us.
Ok live in this excuse. Dynamic understanding can be incomprehensible to commons. Moreover, nature, destiny, its mediator can take its own recourse even though odd preception or ego not there.
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Old 26th October 2017, 04:23 AM   #125
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Ok live in this excuse. Dynamic understanding can be incomprehensible to commons. Moreover, nature, destiny, its mediator can take its own recourse even though odd preception or ego not there.
It's not an excuse, and it's not our egos. You writee bad English-um.
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Old 26th October 2017, 04:41 AM   #126
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It's not an excuse, and it's not our egos. You writee bad English-um.
Preception and nature to achieve it main goal i.e to balances itself can also attune. Basic nature's rule.
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Old 26th October 2017, 04:48 AM   #127
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Preception and nature to achieve it main goal i.e to balances itself can also attune. Basic nature's rule.
What is this balance?
Which elements need to be balanced?
How?
Why?
In what time frame?
How does Nature keep tally?
Why do you keep insisting that Nature has a human mind with human goals and preconceptions?
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Old 26th October 2017, 05:14 AM   #128
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Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life View Post
What is this balance?
Which elements need to be balanced?
How?
Why?
In what time frame?
How does Nature keep tally?
Why do you keep insisting that Nature has a human mind with human goals and preconceptions?
It is commonly felt. Google it. Later, we can discuss it in seprate topic. Big subject. Meantime,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_of_nature
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Old 26th October 2017, 05:21 AM   #129
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Originally Posted by Kumar View Post
It is commonly felt. Google it. Later, we can discuss it in seprate topic. Big subject.
You keep evading direct questions. If you are not willing to define your own terms, then what do we have to discuss?
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Old 26th October 2017, 05:27 AM   #130
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Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life View Post
You keep evading direct questions. If you are not willing to define your own terms, then what do we have to discuss?
I already gave a link on editing. Another one:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4188511

Enjoy reading and avoid odds. For rest do some home work.
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Old 26th October 2017, 05:37 AM   #131
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Originally Posted by Kumar View Post
I already gave a link on editing. Another one:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4188511

Enjoy reading and avoid odds. For rest do some home work.
Way ahead of you. That's why I asked you those questions...

From the article you linked to:
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the notion of a balance of nature has become passé, and the term is widely recognized as a panchreston [30]—a term that means so many different things to different people that it is useless as a theoretical framework or explanatory device.
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Today, ecologists do not even recognize a balance, and those members of the public who do, see it as something we must protect if we are ever to reap benefits from it in the future (e.g., wetlands that might help ameliorate flooding from storms and sea-level rise). This shift is clear in the writings of Bill McKibben [42],[43], who talks frequently about balance, but about balance with nature, not balance of nature, and how humankind is headed towards a catastrophic future if it does not act promptly and radically to rebalance society with nature.
How does this factor into your idea that nature is an indepentendtly acting agent with its own thoughts and goals, that will undertake action to restore some kind of preconceived balance?
How does the 'spirit of nature' determine what this balance is?
How can we know what nature wants?
How do we know nature is acting in our best interest?
Do you realize that the current consensus is that nature does not have a mind, or goals?

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Old 26th October 2017, 06:22 AM   #132
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Originally Posted by Kumar View Post
It is commonly felt. Google it. Later, we can discuss it in seprate topic. Big subject. Meantime,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_of_nature
So what?

What does it have to do with your insistence that magic is real?
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Old 26th October 2017, 06:26 AM   #133
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Originally Posted by Kumar View Post
Preception and nature to achieve it main goal i.e to balances itself can also attune. Basic nature's rule.
Nature has only ONE goal: existence. By definition it cannot be anything but in "balance" with itself.
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Old 26th October 2017, 06:47 AM   #134
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Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life View Post
Way ahead of you. That's why I asked you those questions...

From the article you linked to:



How does this factor into your idea that nature is an indepentendtly acting agent with its own thoughts and goals, that will undertake action to restore some kind of preconceived balance?
How does the 'spirit of nature' determine what this balance is?
How can we know what nature wants?
How do we know nature is acting in our best interest?
Do you realize that the current consensus is that nature does not have a mind, or goals?
If it is so, there will be no nature laws or rules. It will then also not be a self regulated mechanism. In short, nature concept will just be a fake term. Do you want to claim it?
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Old 26th October 2017, 06:50 AM   #135
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If it is so, there will be no nature laws or rules.
You are right, in a way. Nature does not obey the laws we write. We write laws in an attempt to describe the way nature behaves, regardless of what we wish it would do.

This is how we know magic like homeopathy simply does not work. No reliable evidence of nature every behaving that way exists.
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Old 26th October 2017, 06:50 AM   #136
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Nature has only ONE goal: existence. By definition it cannot be anything but in "balance" with itself.
Are you suggesting that nature balance is a reality. How it is achieved is a different debate?
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Discussions on topic are getting lost. Pls limit.
You are not a mod. Pls do not attempt to play one!!!!!!!
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Are you suggesting that nature balance is a reality. How it is achieved is a different debate?
As happens so often, your lack of understanding of actual English precludes your interpretation(s) of what is being described/pointed out to you.
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Discussions on topic are getting lost. Pls limit.
If you believe a post is off-topic report it to the moderators as such. If the moderators, who are the people in charge of the forum, deem it off-topic they will potentially move the offending posts and / or issue any relevant warnings.
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I already gave a link on editing. Another one:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4188511

Enjoy reading and avoid odds. For rest do some home work.
You do your homework!
What do you have to say about your link.
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Old 26th October 2017, 08:16 AM   #141
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Originally Posted by Kumar View Post
It is commonly felt. Google it. Later, we can discuss it in seprate topic. Big subject. Meantime,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_of_nature
Oh joy,
more argument by wikipedia page.

Which ideas and concepts do you think are important.
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Originally Posted by Kumar View Post
I already gave a link on editing. Another one:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4188511

Enjoy reading and avoid odds. For rest do some home work.
Way ahead of you. That's why I asked you those questions...

From the article you linked to:
Quote:
the notion of a balance of nature has become passé, and the term is widely recognized as a panchreston [30]—a term that means so many different things to different people that it is useless as a theoretical framework or explanatory device.
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Today, ecologists do not even recognize a balance, and those members of the public who do, see it as something we must protect if we are ever to reap benefits from it in the future (e.g., wetlands that might help ameliorate flooding from storms and sea-level rise). This shift is clear in the writings of Bill McKibben [42],[43], who talks frequently about balance, but about balance with nature, not balance of nature, and how humankind is headed towards a catastrophic future if it does not act promptly and radically to rebalance society with nature.
How does this factor into your idea that nature is an indepentendtly acting agent with its own thoughts and goals, that will undertake action to restore some kind of preconceived balance?
How does the 'spirit of nature' determine what this balance is?
How can we know what nature wants?
How do we know nature is acting in our best interest?
Do you realize that the current consensus is that nature does not have a mind, or goals?
Originally Posted by Kumar View Post
If it is so, there will be no nature laws or rules. It will then also not be a self regulated mechanism. In short, nature concept will just be a fake term. Do you want to claim it?
So when confronted with what your link actually says you engage in dodge and weave.

Is it hard to admit you didn't actually read it and that your use of terms is fallacious?
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Discussions on topic are getting lost. Pls limit.
Good - then no more irrelevant cancer or immune system posts from you (not!) !
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Discussions on topic are getting lost. Pls limit.
Oh Kumar baboo! Limit on posts very good gen! Pls limiting own posts bit damn much more & you will had achieving A&F! Think homopathologically dynamic, acause less is more (LIM from now and on). Less post, more convincing!

Think how no post at all can do?
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Oh Kumar baboo! Limit on posts very good gen! Pls limiting own posts bit damn much more & you will had achieving A&F! Think homopathologically dynamic, acause less is more (LIM from now and on). Less post, more convincing!

Think how no post at all can do?
No posts at all would be nothing at all in the bottle. Something has to go glug glug to give the placebo's cosmic flywheel a spin. It's much better, as we see, to spread a voluminous mash with a minimum of discrete kernels of content. This leads to huge homeopathic gouts of insight that bore into the very corpus of our foramen. Every once in a while some false sense of intelligibility seems to creep in but it is just noise and fortunately crackles harmlessly into the echoing void. Soon enough I expect the dilution to be so pure that God herself bursts from my screen with a pixel-popping flash of A and F. I'm waiting, fresh candles, pentacle chalked on the floor, white cape hanging by yonder nail.
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Oh Kumar baboo! Limit on posts very good gen! Pls limiting own posts bit damn much more & you will had achieving A&F! Think homopathologically dynamic, acause less is more (LIM from now and on). Less post, more convincing!

Think how no post at all can do?
Very well done!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Very well done!!!!!!!!!!!!
And, it would be great if Kumar would post an AAF post real soon!!!!!
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Originally Posted by sackett View Post
Oh Kumar baboo! Limit on posts very good gen! Pls limiting own posts bit damn much more & you will had achieving A&F! Think homopathologically dynamic, acause less is more (LIM from now and on). Less post, more convincing!

Think how no post at all can do?
Careful, there. At the top of this page Kumar used the noun "parody." It's vaguely possible he knows what it means.
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Ok live in this excuse. Dynamic understanding can be incomprehensible to commons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Em...7s_New_Clothes
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You do your homework!
What do you have to say about your link.
When something is well studies, it means that thing should be existing. Both positive and negative sides or MPOVs can be there for everything unless that is a&f. But alas, you do not anticipate or support it inspite has existance.
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So when confronted with what your link actually says you engage in dodge and weave.

Is it hard to admit you didn't actually read it and that your use of terms is fallacious?
As per my last reply.
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When something is well studies, it means that thing should be existing. Both positive and negative sides or MPOVs can be there for everything unless that is a&f. But alas, you do not anticipate or support it inspite has existance.

The link you posted contradicts your argument.
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When something is well studies, it means that thing should be existing. Both positive and negative sides or MPOVs can be there for everything unless that is a&f. But alas, you do not anticipate or support it inspite has existance.
So according to Kumar, if one studies Unicorns, then Unicorns must exist.

I wonder what he makes of this?

https://www.unicornshops.com/
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So according to Kumar, if one studies Unicorns, then Unicorns must exist.

I wonder what he makes of this?

https://www.unicornshops.com/
Probably, basis of doubt may be some hídden truth.
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Old 27th October 2017, 12:12 AM   #156
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The link you posted contradicts your argument.
Simply tell
How much we can sustain in derranged homeostatis state?
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Originally Posted by Kumar View Post
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How much we can sustain in derranged homeostatis state?

That is nothing to do with "the balance of nature" as you have been using the term here. That you are introducing homeostasis into the discussion is a perfect illustration of what your link says about the uselessness of the term.
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Probably, basis of doubt may be some hídden truth.

Do you think unicorns exist?
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Do you think unicorns exist?
I do not know, whether they are existing, existed in past or can exist in future. But if we are doubting, such possibilty could be there. Otherwise why we even thought about them.
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I do not know, whether they are existing, existed in past or can exist in future. But if we are doubting, such possibilty could be there. Otherwise why we even thought about them.
ORLY? How about mermaids?
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