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Old 27th June 2017, 06:46 PM   #2561
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
I don't find that peculiar. Why do you find it peculiar?

Especially considering the interference he suggested was not the interference they performed.

Trump invited the Russians to interfere in our election and once again, that is unacceptable. Can you imagine Reagan asking the Soviet Union to go public witih negative information on Carter during the 1980 presidential election?
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Old 27th June 2017, 06:58 PM   #2562
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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjets View Post
You don't understand. Russia is not the enemy, liberals are.

Thanks for the clarification. I guess that makes Putin an honorary Republican Party member. Now, I see that light and thank goodness it wasn't from a nuclear detonation.
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Old 27th June 2017, 07:03 PM   #2563
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Originally Posted by skyeagle409 View Post
Trump invited the Russians to interfere in our election and once again, that is unacceptable. Can you imagine Reagan asking the Soviet Union to go public witih negative information on Carter during the 1980 presidential election?
That doesn't strike me as peculiar. That seems malicious. But it isn't odd for a malicious person.
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Old 27th June 2017, 07:18 PM   #2564
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
That doesn't strike me as peculiar. That seems malicious. But it isn't odd for a malicious person.

I think there is more to the story between Russia and Trump, but let's see what multiple investigations reveal in the coming months. Perhaps, they might provide a clue as to why Trump failed to take action against the Russians for their meddling.
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Old Yesterday, 05:21 AM   #2565
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
That's all it took to convince Trump fans that all things Trump and Russia are fake. Anything more coming out will be labeled fake.
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Old Yesterday, 08:10 AM   #2566
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Originally Posted by d4m10n View Post
Are any of those teams coordinating their strategy in order to maximize their effectiveness against the Pats?

(Side note: Is that even possible in the NFL?)
Yes. One team agrees to end Brady's season and deal with the inevitable suspensions, the rest have a much imptoved chance of winning.
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Old Yesterday, 08:16 AM   #2567
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Originally Posted by timhau View Post
Yes. One team agrees to end Brady's season and deal with the inevitable suspensions, the rest have a much imptoved chance of winning.
Fair example. It would be pretty awful if one of the other coaches publicly called for a season-ending injury to happen like that. Career-ending, one might hope.
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Old Yesterday, 02:17 PM   #2568
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The attempts by the GOP to accuse Obama of inaction over Russian Interference are pathetic.
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Old Yesterday, 02:47 PM   #2569
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It's fake news from the lame stream media, and moreover, why didn't Obama do something about it?!
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
The attempts by the GOP to accuse Obama of inaction over Russian Interference are pathetic.
It's par for the course, though? It's hardly the first time that they were doing everything they could to prevent him from doing something, then blaming him for not doing enough.
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Old Yesterday, 08:34 PM   #2571
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Originally Posted by Aridas View Post
It's par for the course, though? It's hardly the first time that they were doing everything they could to prevent him from doing something, then blaming him for not doing enough.
While benefiting from it. It brings us around to more kettle logic from the GOP. Trump did not benefit from Russian interference but Obama did not do enough to stop their interference on Trump's behalf. Also, please don't notice Trump attempting to block bipartisan efforts to address this.
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Old Yesterday, 10:26 PM   #2572
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Originally Posted by d4m10n View Post
It's fake news from the lame stream media, and moreover, why didn't Obama do something about it?!

Actually, Obama did take action, but it was too little too late. The question now, what is Trump going to do about it? He has done nothing and that is a threat to national security.

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Officials struggle to convince Trump that Russia remains a threat

Washington (CNN)As President Donald Trump lashes out at former President Barack Obama for failing to take a harder line against Russia for election meddling, Trump's own advisers are struggling to convince him that Russia still poses a threat, according to multiple senior administration officials.

op intelligence officials have raised alarm about Russia's cyberattacks, calling them a "major threat" to the US election system. In public hearings on Capitol Hill and classified briefings behind closed doors, intelligence officials have drawn the same conclusions: Russia launched an unprecedented attack on America's electoral process during the 2016 presidential campaign and -- barring a full-throated response from the US -- the Russians are almost certain to do so again.

It's a warning some fear the White House isn't taking seriously.

Schiff: If Trump doesn't act on Russia, could be dereliction of duty


(CNN)The top Democrat on the House intelligence committee said that if President Donald Trump doesn't act on the threat Russia poses, he could be derelict in his duty to protect the United States.

Earlier Wednesday, former US ambassador to NATO and George W. Bush administration official Nicholas Burns had accused Trump of "dereliction of the basic duty to defend the country" for what he said was Trump's apparent disinterest in Russia's meddling in the 2016 presidential election.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/28/politi...ntv/index.html
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Old Today, 04:33 AM   #2573
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House Russia probe eyes longtime Trump bodyguard-turned-White House aide Keith Schiller

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Congressional investigators now want to interview Keith Schiller, President Donald Trump’s longtime bodyguard-turned-White House aide, as part of their investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign, sources familiar with the investigation told ABC News.

Schiller, the former head of security for the Trump Organization who now serves as the White House director of Oval Office operations, is one of several Trump associates on the House Intelligence Committee’s witness list in its ongoing investigation into Russian election interference.

The committee’s focus on Schiller and other Trump campaign officials and associates marks a new phase in the investigation -- which is examining how Russia attempted to influence the election, the Obama administration’s response and allegations of collusion between Trump associates and Russian officials.

It's the latest indication that the investigations are touching Trump's inner circle. In late July, longtime Trump associate Roger Stone is expected to appear before congressional investigators for a closed-door interview. The growing list of other Trump associates the committee has said they want to meet includes former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, Trump son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner, and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.
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