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Old 11th August 2022, 09:55 AM   #1
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Right Wing Terrorism

Right wing terrorism has been on the rise for a while now and it's only going to accelerate with the Republican politicians and propaganda outlets encouragement of such violent actions from their base.

This thread is to catalog and discuss these incidents.

To start us off we have a terrorist action against the FBI.

Suspect Threatens FBI In Cincinnati, Trades Gunfire With Police
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/shots...a517ef67b65?wt
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Police have exchanged gunfire with an armed man after he made threats at an FBI building in Cincinnati, according to reports.
And then there is the judge who signed the Trump warrant receiving death threats.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy73...einhart-doxxed

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Far-right extremists on pro-Donald Trump message boards and social networks are making violent, antisemitic threats against the judge who reportedly signed the warrant that allowed the FBI to search the former president's Mar-a-Lago property in Florida.

Multiple members of these toxic online communities are even posting what appears to be Judge Bruce Reinhart’s home address, phone numbers, and names of his family members alongside threats of extreme violence.
Also apologies for the poor formatting. Limited time and trying to do this from my phone.
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Old 11th August 2022, 09:57 AM   #2
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Yeah but Antifa knocked over a trashcan once...
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Old 11th August 2022, 10:00 AM   #3
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Imagine if we pursued and publicized these incidents as much as we do foreign terrorists who threaten Americans.
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The first one is really really bad.

The death threats thing just seems like what happens to every public figure. it is depressing, but maybe not predictive?
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The first one is really really bad.

The death threats thing just seems like what happens to every public figure. it is depressing, but maybe not predictive?
Tell you what Bob, go send some death threats to public figures as a "philosophy experiment." Tell them you're just being Socratic. Let us know how it goes.
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Old 11th August 2022, 10:19 AM   #6
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Tell you what Bob, go send some death threats to public figures as a "philosophy experiment." Tell them you're just being Socratic. Let us know how it goes.
they all already have death threats
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Ever since the FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago, I have seen a series of nasty messages stating things like:

Abolish the FBI.
Get your guns ready.
Death to Biden.
We are in a police state and we must fight the police state.


And so on.

I expect that most of this nonsense is just nonsense.

However, I also expect that there will be at least a few nut-jobs who will take these screeds seriously, and as such, they will try to do and/or actually do some really horrible things.
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Originally Posted by Crossbow View Post
Ever since the FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago, I have seen a series of nasty messages stating things like:

Abolish the FBI.
Get your guns ready.
Death to Biden.
We are in a police state and we must fight the police state.


And so on.

I expect that most of this nonsense is just nonsense.

However, I also expect that there will be at least a few nut-jobs who will take these screeds seriously, and as such, they will try to do and/or actually do some really horrible things.
Cruz, Greene, and Boebert are spreading that stuff on Twitter "bigly".
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they all already have death threats
From an enemy force that already attempted a coup? I think not.
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Originally Posted by Crossbow View Post
Ever since the FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago, I have seen a series of nasty messages stating things like:

Abolish the FBI.
Get your guns ready.
Death to Biden.
We are in a police state and we must fight the police state.


And so on.

I expect that most of this nonsense is just nonsense.

However, I also expect that there will be at least a few nut-jobs who will take these screeds seriously, and as such, they will try to do and/or actually do some really horrible things.
We've already seen the evidence of just what these nutjobs are capable of: Jan. 6.
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From an enemy force that already attempted a coup? I think not.
If a person wasn't threatened by them, then by some other person. Simply being a public figure brings death threats. Saying someone has death threats from a group that doesn't like them is given
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If a person wasn't threatened by them, then by some other person. Simply being a public figure brings death threats. Saying someone has death threats from a group that doesn't like them is given

So you think death threats should not be investigated?
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So you think death threats should not be investigated?
I don't see how you can conclude a statement that death threats are common means they should not be investigated.

Is that some principle of criminology or something?
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I don't see how you can conclude a statement that death threats are common means they should not be investigated.

Is that some principle of criminology or something?
Just wanted to make sure you take these death threats seriously and feel they should be investigated.
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Just wanted to make sure you take these death threats seriously and feel they should be investigated.
Maybe I don't? Maybe I take these more seriously than others?

I think there is a very interesting sociology and criminology question here. As preludes to actual violence, it seems most death threats are empty. It is sadly very cheap to scare someone with a death threat. So how should a system process these threats? I have no idea
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The guy who tried to shoot up the FBI office is another right-wing crazy. He was calling for war on the internet because they couldn't let the raid stand.
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Imagine if we pursued and publicized these incidents as much as we do foreign terrorists who threaten Americans.
I think Jan 6th, Charollesville, and back in the 90's Oklahoma City got plenty of attention.
Thing is except for those the Right wing terorists have not done anything that spectacular.
I don;t buy there is some conspiracy by the evil media to hide Right wing terrorism.
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We've already seen the evidence of just what these nutjobs are capable of: Jan. 6.
TO go back a few years, Oklahoma City comes to mind.
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If a person wasn't threatened by them, then by some other person. Simply being a public figure brings death threats. Saying someone has death threats from a group that doesn't like them is given
The enemy in this case already demonstrated a willingness to use violence against their own government. That's different than some random yahoo. We know what this enemy is capable of because we've watched them do it. Not the same thing at all.
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Originally Posted by Crossbow View Post
Ever since the FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago, I have seen a series of nasty messages stating things like:

Abolish the FBI.
Get your guns ready.
Death to Biden.
We are in a police state and we must fight the police state.


And so on.

I expect that most of this nonsense is just nonsense.

However, I also expect that there will be at least a few nut-jobs who will take these screeds seriously, and as such, they will try to do and/or actually do some really horrible things.
FWIW, the same voices that were making noise yesterday about "the civil war has begun" and publishing the home addresses of the warrant-signing judge and their family members and the like, today are calling this attack on an FBI office a "false flag by the FBI".

It is amusing how quickly MAGA-types leap to explicitly advocating for murder and violence against elected officials, law enforcement, judges, etc and yet whenever someone follows through on those words the crowd's first instinct is to distance itself from the very actions they agitate for, usually by proclaiming themselves spineless. "It couldn't have been us, we only talk the talk, we would never walk the walk."
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Back on topic... FBI put an end to the Cincinnati standoff.

Reuters: Police shoot dead armed man who tried to breach Ohio FBI building.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fbi...ng-2022-08-11/
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It's messed up that I laughed at this tweet but it does really illustrate the derangement inherent to right-wing politics today.
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some dude woke up today and decided to commit suicide by cop bc the former host of celebrity apprentice wasnt allowed to keep the top secret documents he stole from the white house
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Back on topic... FBI put an end to the Cincinnati standoff.

Reuters: Police shoot dead armed man who tried to breach Ohio FBI building.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fbi...ng-2022-08-11/
This is why police should have opened fire on the enemy on January 6th. We could have killed and maimed people we're going to have to kill and maim later.
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It's messed up that I laughed at this tweet but it does really illustrate the derangement inherent to right-wing politics today.
It's started decades ago crazy conspiracy theorists are crazy.
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This is why police should have opened fire on the enemy on January 6th. We could have killed and maimed people we're going to have to kill and maim later.
Maybe I was wrong to think we could avoid a Civil War, it seems like idiots are going to start one anyway.
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"the title was meant to be tongue-in-cheek"
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Maybe I was wrong to think we could avoid a Civil War, it seems like idiots are going to start one anyway.
If they're going to start a civil war, bring the enemy to battle at times and places of our choosing. If Trump gets indicted, draw the enemy in and destroy them in detail.
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It is unfortunate that for the shooting of a right wing terrorist I have to rely so much on a briefing by cops for details. Because one place with a lot of lies is a briefing by cops following a police shooting.
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It's messed up that I laughed at this tweet but it does really illustrate the derangement inherent to right-wing politics today.
He didn't try for the gold reserve at Fort Knox?
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If they're going to start a civil war, bring the enemy to battle at times and places of our choosing. If Trump gets indicted, draw the enemy in and destroy them in detail.
That won't be hard they surround me here in Kentucky by the Thousands.
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That won't be hard they surround me here in Kentucky by the Thousands.
That's not what destroy in detail means.
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It is unfortunate that for the shooting of a right wing terrorist I have to rely so much on a briefing by cops for details. Because one place with a lot of lies is a briefing by cops following a police shooting.
I'm not too worried in this instance. The attrition of an enemy force is never a negative outcome.
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It's started decades ago crazy conspiracy theorists are crazy.
Even so. If you go back to 2012, claim to be from the future, and start reading headlines from now you'd look ten kinds of insane.

Here's a thought experiment: You can pick any year in US history where you can tell people actual news stories from ten years in the future. Is there a weirder date to do it than ten years ago today, and how long has that been true?

Maybe that should be a thread. I dunno. If someone wants to start one feel free...
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Liberals really need to be armed cause when the **** hits the fan and armed MAGA outnumber us 50 to 1, we're gonna be really sad.
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Liberals really need to be armed cause when the **** hits the fan and armed MAGA outnumber us 50 to 1, we're gonna be really sad.
The need to be prepared for violent backlash is real. But if militant right-wingers outnumbered everyone 50-1 it would already be over. Meet the threat, don't puff it up.
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This is why police should have opened fire on the enemy on January 6th. We could have killed and maimed people we're going to have to kill and maim later.
Not many would have been killed. As soon as the first volley of shots was fired, almost all of them would have bravely run away.
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Liberals really need to be armed cause when the **** hits the fan and armed MAGA outnumber us 50 to 1, we're gonna be really sad.
I have been saying that for some time.
Problem is the "All Gun Ownership Is Evil" has become pure Dogma and is not to be questioned.
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The need to be prepared for violent backlash is real. But if militant right-wingers outnumbered everyone 50-1 it would already be over. Meet the threat, don't puff it up.
If somebody is out to kill you you have every right to take steps to protect yourself.
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Listen we need to have a real talk here. If it comes down to it, we're screwed.

Listen I love and adore my liberal friends. They are kind and wonderful and smart and caring and the world is a better place for them being in it.

What they are NOT is scary or threatening or tough. Nobody is scared of people who posts memes about how they can't order their own pizza because of anxiety.

At least the Right can still fire a gun from their mobility scooters.
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