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28th June 2012, 12:22 PM | #8601 |
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"Take the children, but LEAVE ME MY MONKEY!" --Dewey Cox, in "Walk Hard: the Dewey Cox Story." "The main skill of bigfoot investigators is finding ways to deny the obvious." --DFoot |
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28th June 2012, 01:09 PM | #8602 |
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Ah, yes. Another one straight from the footer bible.
Inhuman proportions, proportions can't be masked, blahblahblahblah. Barney the Dinosaur must be real. See those arms! Inhuman, I'll tell you! |
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28th June 2012, 01:09 PM | #8603 |
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Parn, I think Ontario is trying to make the claim that the proportions of the upper leg to the lower leg are not consistent with a human. The flaw in the thinking is that it's difficult to determine the correct location of the hip in the PGF due to the ill fitting waders Bob H is wearing, and the disconnect in the suit in the area of the gluteus maximus. To walk upright, an animal of the "supposed" size of Patty would have to have a massive posterior chain of muscles. Those just don't show up in the pictures.
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28th June 2012, 01:40 PM | #8604 |
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I don't think he knows what proportions he's talking about. and I don't think he knows what skeletal overlays he's talking about either. But I'll await his input. |
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28th June 2012, 02:14 PM | #8605 |
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28th June 2012, 02:49 PM | #8608 |
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Re-defining your own language. This is a feature of cults, by the way. So the perpetrators have to agree in order for a confession by one of them to be accepted, eh? If they disagree, then we ignore the one saying it is a hoax, and trust the one who says it is real.
Because that's so reasonable.
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28th June 2012, 03:18 PM | #8609 |
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28th June 2012, 04:08 PM | #8610 |
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So you are in fact a liar then?
You gave us a challenge, and that challenge was met pretty much immediately by me and now you are saying it doesn't count because of reasons you just made up. So what is it you want? And by the way, both people don't say the PGF is real, therefore until both say it is real, we can dismiss it, right? And on a side note, does anyone know of a website that has transcripts from pretty much everything Gimlin and Patterson have said about the PGF? |
28th June 2012, 04:39 PM | #8611 |
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Bigfoot encounters prolly has the most.
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28th June 2012, 07:26 PM | #8612 |
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28th June 2012, 09:40 PM | #8613 |
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28th June 2012, 11:54 PM | #8614 |
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Wow, that's a good set of pictures. To show that point. It's just so far away you do not have the resolution to be talking about how much anatomical detail you can see.
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No Bigfoots were harmed during the making of this thread.
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29th June 2012, 04:40 AM | #8616 |
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29th June 2012, 04:50 AM | #8617 |
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Where is the one with the burn-through hole on the face?
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29th June 2012, 05:16 AM | #8618 |
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u choose!
Oh, and remember, Patty as a member of the Homo genus is trendy nowadays... |
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29th June 2012, 06:54 AM | #8619 |
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E-3 is my rendition of Patty!
E-2 is so absolutely MONEY though. |
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29th June 2012, 09:59 AM | #8620 |
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29th June 2012, 10:05 AM | #8621 |
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i dont understand why people think bill munns is the be all and all when talking about the pgf..and keep saying oh bill can tell if its the suit ...its one opinion.hes not god of the pgf .nobody is.
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29th June 2012, 10:09 AM | #8622 |
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I don't think he's some PGF god, but I know he has a ton of knowledge on the creation of suits and costumes. If he was to promote the PGF as a hoax he wouldn't be accused of Bias.
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29th June 2012, 10:47 AM | #8623 |
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Munns has stated that his goal is to prove Patty to be a real bigfoot, so knowing that why do you think his research is unbiased, or even legitimate?
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29th June 2012, 10:49 AM | #8624 |
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You did not address my earlier question, asking you why there are no other reputable FX people who think the PGF is real ?
Munns has been shown to be wrong on many points regarding the suit... ( No, I won't give you examples - they are buried in the thousands of posts where this hoax has been thoroughly debunked... ) Well, maybe one example.. |
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29th June 2012, 10:50 AM | #8625 |
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Why do you keep referring only to Bill Munns? He is not the only hollywood suit maker/makeup guy. In fact on the old version of the BFF I listed 12 other suiit maker/makeup guys that thought the PGF was a hoax and a man in a suit. Why does Munns opinion matter more than theirs? What makes him more qualified? Because he will say its real? IMHO, that makes his opinion less credible according to the evidence, and his claims it represents a real animal. Seems to me his opinions just might be biased. All of his peers say the opposite about the film, yet you only referring to his opinion shows your own bias as well. If you were truly interested in suit makers opinions, you'd not blindly embrace the opnion of the only one saying it is a real animal. |
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Just because most Hollywood artists believe it's hoaxed doesn't mean it is hoaxed, nor does it mean I should take their side. If I were to operate like that I wouldn't even know Bigfoot exists right now.
ETA - No other Hollywood artist has analysed the PGF like Bill Munns has. Their quick opinions on the film are disappointing to say the least. |
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Then why are you taking the side of ONE FX artist ?
Since when does Bigfoot exist ? |
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Since OntarioSquatch has no interest in evidence, it is pointless to present it..
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And Bill is the god of fantasy camera mathematics.
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29th June 2012, 11:55 AM | #8635 |
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Fixed that for you. It's the same kind of "know" like in, "I know Jesus is the son of God," or "I know Sylvia Brown finds missing people with her magical powers," or "I know aliens crashed at Roswell." Ironically there is evidence to support your comment. |
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29th June 2012, 08:14 PM | #8637 |
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29th June 2012, 08:18 PM | #8638 |
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I am too lazy to go back and find the post with the pictures that Patterson took on the day of the supposed sighting, and the ones that were supposedly taken a year after the sighting in the exact same location; but the debris pile speaks volumes to me. No, not that bark has fallen off or some twig looks broken; it's that the debris pile is still there a year later, supposedly AFTER a huge deluge the day following the sighting by Patterson. We aren't talking big piles of trees, but small debris that is essentially the same in both photographs taken supposedly a year apart. That for me is physical proof the film was hoaxed, the timeline is cooked, and the wool has been pulled over a whole bunch of people's eyes. Hey, but I could be wrong, and was confused between the falling bark, breaking twigs, whose dog belonged to whom, who borrowed which horse, etc.
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29th June 2012, 08:23 PM | #8639 |
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i could be in that suit.
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