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10th July 2012, 07:55 PM | #8801 |
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I dont remember the Hat GT.. perhaps I should go back again and read his posts.
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What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break? |
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10th July 2012, 08:23 PM | #8804 |
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I just dug for 30. I havent seen the Hat ? Help me out
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10th July 2012, 08:26 PM | #8805 |
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From my research this is what I know about Bigfoot. Let me explain: When the Bigfoot hit a tree with a stick what they are doing is letting the other know there are humans around. Like 1 knock means 1 human. 2 knocks means 2 humans and so on. This is to let all the other Bigfoot know that people are around them. The better cry they make is when they are upset about something. They love eating lentil beans. This is why most of the reports on Bigfoot are in areas that grow lentil. The Bigfoot when they make tracks they do this to through the human off of their trail. Let me explain: As you know these research go out looking for Bigfoot then they come up on these tracks and they follow them and then out of no where the tracks disappear. What people don't know is what they do is back track themselves on their same tracks and then head off to another direction just to through off the humans and take them into another direction and keep the humans away from their families. Just like what people don't know is when they set up their trail camera they let off a flash and this is why no one can get a Bigfoot on a trail camera for they see this big flash at night when these small animals go around them so they stay away from that area. There is more I can say by my research on them but, I don't like to post a lot of it because I have had in the past other researchers steal my research and claim it as their own research. |
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10th July 2012, 08:31 PM | #8807 |
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10th July 2012, 08:32 PM | #8808 |
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10th July 2012, 08:37 PM | #8809 |
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It's amazing how - after nearly 50 years - fake footprints and men in monkey suits still fail to impress, yet this thread is going on and on.
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10th July 2012, 08:40 PM | #8810 |
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I have posted a article in the past called Bigfoot in the Bible where I talked about the first Bigfoot and what they are. They are Edomites and the first Bigfoot was Esau. I post this about 4 or 5 years ago. Now in the last 2 month someone else came out claiming he came up with Bigfoot from the Bible and talked about the same thing I did years ago. So I gone on that site and post that I was the first one that talked about Bigfoot are Edomites and that Esau was the first Bigfoot but I got a lot of emails from these people saying no I did not bring this out and more BS. I gone through this with my research on Noah's ark and the garden of Eden and even the JFK Assassination. These researchers will say BS about my research then at the right time they take my research and claim it as their own. |
10th July 2012, 08:45 PM | #8811 |
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I also like to add that even when I copyright my images and research and I even post it and mark on the sites and email that my research is copyright and no one can use any information or images without a written consent they still us my images and they still use my research.
This is why I don't like posting some of my research for these people keep stealing it from me. |
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10th July 2012, 08:48 PM | #8813 |
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Uh, no. He's serious.
But at least he came to that conclusion through research instead of just skimming bigfoot sites. |
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10th July 2012, 08:52 PM | #8814 |
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You think you know so much then what are they? where they came from? and how can you get one on film? and have to really seen one? So before you can say anything about my research why don't you prove me wrong what is your proof what can you really say what they do or where they came from. |
10th July 2012, 08:57 PM | #8815 |
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Do you believe in science or the whole god sent us down to earth thing?
ETA - Nevermind, these theories just keep coming, but using the bible to explain what we don't understand is no way to get to the truth. There's so much information out there to put together. Why resort to the bible? |
10th July 2012, 09:07 PM | #8816 |
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10th July 2012, 10:31 PM | #8817 |
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There are people who seriously believe they are from the star Deneb. It's like no one wants to get to the bottom of this thing. Next time you meet a legit Bigfoot researcher, thank them for their good efforts.
Going back to the PGF, Bob Gimlin was offered 1 million dollars to "confess" that the PGF is a hoax. Guess what he said? |
10th July 2012, 10:44 PM | #8818 |
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Because to date, NO ONE has presented ANY evidence of such a creature existing?
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As you may recall I spoke on Tom Biscardi's show with you about the PGF film. Also, people claim to see a lot of things. Ghosts, mermaids, aliens, elvis etc. Does it mean they are lying? It might, but it could also mean they are mistaken, or delusional, or maybe they want to tell a great story for a laugh. All social constructs have very interesting followers, and proponents.
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Where is an example of ANY specific bigfoot evidence? Perhaps that is why they are hard to prove as real.
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Exactly what are you claiming is a fact? Can you list them and also show or explain how you came to those conclusions? I've yet to see anything backing up your claims about the films being related, (green, and pgf) or any other of your claims mentioned. Your work must be duplicable, or at least you must be able to prove your points/claims.
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How much money have I been paid for my "research" on the film Leroy?
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Leroy, I'm not going to "back off". I'm going to continue to ask you to prove your unsubstantiated claims. I'm also going to do the same of those promoting the film as authentic, or other bigfoot claims. I enjoy the subject, and am fairly well caught up on PGF rumor and speculation. Ask Meldrum if I "backed off" in our email exchange, or Murphy, or anyone else. Instead, I'd ask you to clarify your points, or be willing to submit that they are only speculation on your part. |
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10th July 2012, 10:47 PM | #8819 |
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10th July 2012, 11:08 PM | #8820 |
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"Bigfoot does not leave hair samples for us unless he is in our dimension to begin with, obviously. Once the hair is separated from the electrical field associated with the Bigfoot's free quanta energy loops, the hair becomes independant and remains in it's most stable dimension, which presumably is our dimension."(Historian) |
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11th July 2012, 03:03 AM | #8821 |
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11th July 2012, 04:52 AM | #8823 |
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OS, when you realize, that both the Deneb-Bigfoot believers, and the PNW- Relic Apeman believers, have the exact same amount of verifiable evidence for each of their beliefs, then you will realize how silly the idea of a Bigfoot being real, actually is.
You believe that BF is a real, living, evolved creature, they believe Bigfoot is an interdimensional, space travelling, envoy from the 4th dimension, and resides at the center of Mars. (And in the game of providing evidence... You're tied) oops. |
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11th July 2012, 06:32 AM | #8824 |
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The only people I talk to about the PGF on Tom show with was Mr.Morris, Bob Heironimus, Graig Long, John Johnson, Jeff Hilling. So you must be Jeff. Here is the run down on the PGF. John Green and Rene Dahinden and Roger Patterson was on a Bigfoot expedition in 1967. The tracking dog film that shows John Green and Jim McClarin at Blue Creek Mount and Bluff Creek was filmed from August 28 through September 3, 1967. I have a letter to prove these dates, a letter John Green wrote to bob Titmus on September 7 1967 telling him about what they did in the blue Creek Mount. They also filmed Jim McClarin walking the path of the Bigfoot before they film the Bigfoot. Then on that labor day weekend they Filmed the Bigfoot. Now on September 4 when the workers got back to that area to work they seen all these new Bigfoot tracks in the Blue Creek Mount and Bluff Creek this was reported. But what people did not knew was John Green and Rene Dahinden and Roger Patterson and Jim McClarin was there when these tracks was made on that labor day weekend. Then as it was told Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin was at Mt.St.Helen's at the time John Green and Rene Dahinden was down in the Bluff Creek area, However the story of Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin going to Mt.St. Helen's is told in a book Roger Patterson wrote in 1966. And the first people to have seen the Bigfoot film was John Green, Rene Dahinden, Roger Patterson, Al DeAtly and Jim McClarin. In 1968 Roger Patterson and John Green met Ron Olson of ANE. Roger and John gave the film to Ron and he remade the film for them and gave both Roger and John a copy of the remade film. And this is the film that people been researching is a remade film by Ron Olson and ANE now my proof. As you see what is marked at the end of the PG film the date Nov 7,1968 this is the date the film was made. The name of the film is American Bigfoot. It is marked as a Science Fiction Subject. there was editing done to the film. As I have pointed out in the past they took out a man from the film. The man they took out was John Green. I have other images where I took the so called S tree and overlapped it on this blurry images and it shows it did not match. The blurry images was bigger then the S tree. Then I took the side images from the tracking dog film of John Green and overlapped on this same images and John Green line up with the blurry image to a T and the both profiles match up. http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...2497160&type=1 I have these images on my facebook account. Now this image here I have gone over time and time again. I know people has claim this is not a face. However as you see even by the close up of the face I found it is a face no matter what anyone said. And that face in fact match Bob Gimlin face as you also see. Here is another image where you can clearly see Bob Gimlin behind the brush. And as you see in this image here on the left I marked the location in this frame and as you see there is nothing there to form a face but on the right 3 frames latter here in the same location now you see the face. So when you talk about proof you are basing your proof on what other people claim in the past and going on words. I base my research on what can be seen and not what is told in words. Here is 2 frames from 2 different films. The top frame is from the film of Jim Mcclarin walking the path of the Bigfoot. The bottom frame is frame 352 of the PG film. Again here are those same frames. As you see I marked the differences between the 2 frames. And by going on this find I found that the film of Jim McClarin walking the path of the Bigfoot was filmed before the PG film. And to back this up I ask Jim Mcclarin about this and he had no answer for me. Now with that in mind how did Jim Mcclarin walk the path of the Bigfoot before the Bigfoot was filmed? Again I find the proof I need by the films and images I have films that no one knows about I have a full copy of the PG film I have a full copy of the Tracking dog film I even have a full copy of another film that I can not go into at this time. |
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Leroy, you've done one interesting thing in the world of bigfootery: You've demonstrated that a person of modest means and no formal training could make a "Patty"-type bigfoot suit. Your example destroys all suggestions that the suit seen in the PGF would have been impossible for Roger Patterson to construct.
Other than that, you're no less woo-challenged than any bigfoot believer, and you haven't a speck of evidence to corroborate these "facts" you like to tout. Claiming bigfoot to be descended from the biblical character of Esau is not only scientifically untenable, it displays very little understanding of the biblical mythology: Esau was a man. He was Jacob's brother; Isaac's son. He was a shepherd who was very interested in inheriting Isaac's wealth. He is described as strong and hairy - is that all it takes be bigfoot? Esau wore clothing, spoke language, used tools, made fire. He was a dude, dude. You're grasping at imaginary straws to try to explain an imaginary creature with an imaginary story. |
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11th July 2012, 07:04 AM | #8828 |
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You forgot 2 things. 1 the face match Bob Gimlin and not John Green 2 Bob Gimlin height also match the height of the man behind the brush and John Green is taller then the man behind the bush. So the next time you make fun at my research at least try a little harder. |
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11th July 2012, 07:12 AM | #8830 |
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No Bob Gimlin was on John Green shoulders. As you know the Bigfoot in the film is over 8ft tall now |
11th July 2012, 07:17 AM | #8831 |
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No one wants to get to the bottom of this thing? Wouldn't you think legit Bigfoot researchers (a quintessential example of an oxymoron, btw) would? And their good efforts? Really? They have achieved absolutely no success in their pursuit. You'll agree, of course, that all these Bigfoot researchers must be completely incompetent. After all, they haven't come up with a single mote of objective evidence. Maybe the believers should be helping the researchers instead of thanking them for their failure. |
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How can you see BobG but not see John Green? You have selective paradolia or something? Uploaded with ImageShack.us |
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11th July 2012, 07:59 AM | #8833 |
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Wow, I never saw that before.
Way to go Drew! |
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11th July 2012, 08:05 AM | #8834 |
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By the way I thought there was adults here on this site but what I see are some kids doing outline with crayons.
I am out of here. |
11th July 2012, 09:02 AM | #8835 |
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I just did a better job of pointing out John Green in the bushes in three minutes, than you did of showing BG in the bushes, How many months have you been trying to prove BG was in the Bushes oh great paradolia master?
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Leroy, why didn't Roger and Al edit out John Green? Did they think you wouldn't notice him?
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11th July 2012, 10:57 AM | #8838 |
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Here is the rundown on the PGF. on the original film you did not see this part of the film. What people did not knew again is on the original film they only shown Roger Patterson with the blue shirt on and only 30sec of the Bigfoot walking away this is the second part of the walk. And the part of the film that shows Roger Patterson with the stripped shirt on and the first part of the Bigfoot walking was from another film. You see they filmed the Bigfoot 2 times in the same location. The first time they filmed the Bigfoot it was with Bob Heironimus in the suit and the second time they filmed the Bigfoot was another man in the suit. This is why the film shows two different colors in the film. And this is why Bob Heironimus was not paid the $1000 for he was not seen in the original film. Now when Roger and John met Ron Olson in 1968 this is when they gave the film to him and other films and Ron Olson made the Bigfoot walking from 30sec to 57 sec. He also add Roger Patterson in the film again with the stripped shirt on. Bob Gimlin is not even seen in the film that is Roger Patterson but, they claim it was Bob Gimlin. This is why they never shown the face and only the back of the man with the blue shirt on. This is one reason why when they do their test on the height of the Bigfoot they only use the Bigfoot you see looking back and from the second part of the walk. As for me I did the height test on both parts of the walk and i found that the first Bigfoot you see in the first part of the walk was around 6'2" to 6'3" and the Bigfoot in the second walk was around 6'7" to 6'8". They used 2 different men in the suit. And this is why there was 3 different set of tracks at the film site for they may have filmed the Bigfoot 3 times with 3 different people. you see this is why people over looked these things is because they only study the second part of the walk and they only look at this one film as for me I looked at all films that was filmed there and even looked at the people behind the scenes of this film. There is a lot of things out there and all it took was some time and piecing it together. |
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I also like to add.
When they made this film they had John Green in it. But when they gave the film to Ron Olson and ANE that is when they did their editing and took out john Green and added different films together. |
11th July 2012, 11:17 AM | #8840 |
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Can you show us 1 frame that you have, that is not in the standard PGF film that we all know?
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