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Old 9th June 2017, 09:20 AM   #1
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Alchemy and cold fusion

I don't know much chemistry or physics but it seems to me like naturehacker is mixing up the two to come up with MOVI fusion

http://www.naturehackerproducts.com/?m=1

He also has some videos on the subject of turning iron into gold on his YouTube channel and claims to be an expert in chemistry and physics among a lot of other subjects, does any of this really mean anything at all?

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MOVI Fusion: Muon Oxygen Vacancy Implosion Fusion
Can be any type of fusion using any element compound in which vacancies can exist but preferably transition metal oxides performing "s-process" type fusion. (not exactly s-process but creating heavy elements, this would be a whole new type of fusion called MOVI fusion) What this is is an oxide crystal lattice in which oxygen vacancies are present, for muons to fill those vacancies and cause a structural collapse to create heavier elements. This can be used for any purpose. Some preferable uses could be to create energy, create changes to isotopes leading to more or less radioactivity, but most preferably to create heavier elements de novo. The most preferable would be to make noble metals such as gold and others.

This is a type of muon catalyzed fusion in which oxide compounds are used to collect the muons and an implosion of the structure (catalyzed by the muons filling the vacancies) occurs creating nuclear fusion.

"Cold fusion" or low energy nuclear reactions (LENR) are really just catalyzed fusion where the activation energy to cause fusion is reduced. Therefore the MOVI process is also cold fusion.

This is a proposed process based on my theory of how gold is created in the earth.

The MOVI process is an explanation which would provide a theoretical framework to explain how my theory for how gold is created in the earth could potentially happen.

This is also an open source process to create fusion which includes creating gold.

The minimum requirements for this invention are an oxide mineral, oxygen vacancies, and muons. As stated before the muons fill the oxygen vacancies reducing the energy required for the atomic nuclei in the crystal structure to combine in a nuclear fusion reaction.

One example process would be to place hematite (Iron 2 oxide) between two charges that have a high potential difference. These two charges could be crystals such as quartz, metals, or anything else that can carry the charge. This can be any voltage but preferably a voltage on the order of millions of volts. The other things needed are Iron 55 hematite and muons. The muons and iron 55 may be created separately or produced in the process of the high voltage experiment. On the positive charged side/electrode oxygen vacancies would form in the hematite. These vacancies would migrate toward the negative charge/electrode since the vacancies are relatively positively charged. When these vacancies move to the negative electrode they are partially or fully filled with muons. These muons catalyze a structural implosion in the oxide mineral creating higher molecular weight atoms. These muons are released and/or decay. When they are released they can be reused creating a cascade of structural implosions and fusing of nuclei. This could be termed "nuclear melting" or "atomic melting". When they decay the release radiation which may or may not be used to create more muons and/or iron 55.

This is just an example process and will likely work with many different oxides.

In conclusion this is an open source process for creating catalyzed nuclear fusion. This is the only process proposed for creating s-type fusion (but not limited to s-type fusion) that I am aware of. The process at its minimum requires an oxide crystal lattice with vacancies and muons. However these requirements are attained is of no consequence. An example has been illustrated but is only one of many methods to accomplish muon oxygen vacancy implosion fusion. Any process that uses one or more oxides and muons to accomplish fusion are covered by this open source patent. Even more minimum requirement is any element or combination of elements, oxidizing conditions, and radiation. These could be used to create an oxide and create muons and create oxygen vacancies.

Also things besides oxides can be used like hydrides, fluorides, chlorides, bromides, iodides, astantides, sulfides, selenides, tellurides, etc. and would be covered in this open source patent.

Any type of vacancy can be used, but preferably a vacancy of a negative atom like those just mentioned. Perhaps positive muons could fill the vaciencies left by positive atoms. So any vacancy and any type of muon can be used and are covered in this open source patent.

In essence just a muon needs to be used to catalyze the collapse of a lattice to create fusion of nuclei. More external energy in the form of volts or electron volts may be required depending on the conditions.

In certain compounds like hydrides perhaps even just electrons could accomplish the goal and no muons are even needed which would also be covered by this open source patent. But preferably muons would be used.
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Old 12th June 2017, 11:25 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by alexi_drago View Post
I don't know much chemistry or physics but it seems to me like naturehacker is mixing up the two to come up with MOVI fusion

http://www.naturehackerproducts.com/?m=1

He also has some videos on the subject of turning iron into gold on his YouTube channel and claims to be an expert in chemistry and physics among a lot of other subjects, does any of this really mean anything at all?
Looks like BS to me. If he were actually an expert in chemistry, he would know that hematite is Iron(III) oxide, not iron (II) oxide.

Also, fusing iron to gold is endothermic (consumes energy), so even if catalyzed, would probably not happen spontaneously.
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Old 19th June 2017, 04:56 AM   #3
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Creating gold in the Earth sounds very improbable. It is produced in exploding stars. Not the sort of thing a mad inventor wants to cook up in his garden shed.
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Old 11th July 2017, 05:56 AM   #4
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Well he seems to think he can, he's cooking up ways to produce other elements too.
Mind you, he thinks light is a (quantum) gas and has tried making beer from his own piss so I might take what he says with a pinch of salt.
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Old 12th July 2017, 09:39 PM   #5
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To be fair, you could then use that salt to make more gold, to buy more beer.
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Old 12th July 2017, 10:44 PM   #6
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Alchemy is real and alive today:

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Old 17th July 2017, 10:13 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by alexi_drago View Post
Well he seems to think he can, he's cooking up ways to produce other elements too.
Mind you, he thinks light is a (quantum) gas and has tried making beer from his own piss so I might take what he says with a pinch of salt.
I'm pretty sure that converting beer to piss, while quite easy, is not reversible.
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I'm pretty sure that converting beer to piss, while quite easy, is not reversible.
You just need to add water, sugar and yeast. So I'm guessing the urine is just for flavour. Also, rockets don't work in space but it'd be possible to get to the moon by using 'rockets' that fire out expanding foam and riding a column of that to the moon.
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Old 19th July 2017, 11:19 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by alexi_drago View Post
...and has tried making beer from his own piss so I might take what he says with a pinch of salt.
I don't think that a pinch of salt would be sufficient to improve the flavour.
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Old 20th July 2017, 12:04 AM   #10
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Creating gold in the Earth sounds very improbable. It is produced in exploding stars. Not the sort of thing a mad inventor wants to cook up in his garden shed.
You can also create elements in particle accelerator, I would guess that by hitting Iridium Target with alphas you may be able to create some gold. Look up methods used to create in labs short lived elements with very high Z.
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Old 30th July 2017, 07:49 PM   #11
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I'm pretty sure that converting beer to piss, while quite easy, is not reversible.

Of course, it is.

Water is a finite substance on this planet. There is the same amount of water on the planet now as there was when it took it's current form. The water they use to make beer from has been re-used and re-purposed millions of times, as rain, ice, fog, sleet, as a biological catylist, etc... We just would rather not think about the fact that the major part of that Bud Light we are drinking was, at one time, dinosaur urine....

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Both cold fusion, and turning lead into gold are theoretically possible. In theory, you could simply tear apart a lead atom, and rebuild it as a gold atom, adding electrons, protons, and adjusting neutrons where necessary. However, the energy required to accomplish this would be astronomical, and hardly worth it. Gold isn't all that rare, and much of it's value, just like diamonds, is artificial, such as in jewelry.

Cold fusion, on the other hand, could, in theory, be accomplished on the quantum level, but as yet, the technology to do this is not available.
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Old 28th August 2017, 09:23 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by gigmaster View Post
Both cold fusion, and turning lead into gold are theoretically possible. In theory, you could simply tear apart a lead atom, and rebuild it as a gold atom, adding electrons, protons, and adjusting neutrons where necessary. However, the energy required to accomplish this would be astronomical, and hardly worth it. Gold isn't all that rare, and much of it's value, just like diamonds, is artificial, such as in jewelry.
As simple as that?
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What do you mean on the quantum level?

Just seen that naturehacker guy thinks humans are bonobo/angel hybrids, I think he's been drinking to much of his special beer.
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Originally Posted by gigmaster View Post
Both cold fusion, and turning lead into gold are theoretically possible. In theory, you could simply tear apart a lead atom, and rebuild it as a gold atom, adding electrons, protons, and adjusting neutrons where necessary. However, the energy required to accomplish this would be astronomical, and hardly worth it. Gold isn't all that rare, and much of it's value, just like diamonds, is artificial, such as in jewelry.

Cold fusion, on the other hand, could, in theory, be accomplished on the quantum level, but as yet, the technology to do this is not available.
Are they?
Isn't the methodology fixed for both in that if I make gold from lead by way of nuclear manipulation by bombardment - well, I'm not "doing alchemy" so it wouldn't count.

Similar for cold fusion. It's not just any old thing but a specific process - one I'm not sure even reaches the level of "theoretical." But it's been a long time, so I might be wrong about that.
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Originally Posted by alexi_drago View Post
As simple as that?

What do you mean on the quantum level?

Just seen that naturehacker guy thinks humans are bonobo/angel hybrids, I think he's been drinking to much of his special beer.
Maybe the angels have been drinking it, if they've been spending their time bonking chimpanzees.
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I duuno....I've had some beer that I think could go either way.... probably would taste the same either way....

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I'm pretty sure that converting beer to piss, while quite easy, is not reversible.
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You just need to add water, sugar and yeast. So I'm guessing the urine is just for flavour. Also, rockets don't work in space but it'd be possible to get to the moon by using 'rockets' that fire out expanding foam and riding a column of that to the moon.

Some guy named Newton showed that this is false.
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Some guy named Newton showed that this is false.

Running gag.
The claim some people make is that rockets fly by pushing against the air, so they won't work in a vacuum.
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Running gag.
The claim some people make is that rockets fly by pushing against the air, so they won't work in a vacuum.

If I recall correctly, the New York Times in 1920 actually had an editorial claiming this in response to Robert Goddard's advocating rocketry.

I did recall this: see: http://www.famousdaily.com/history/n...l-falsely.html
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If I recall correctly, the New York Times in 1920 actually had an editorial claiming this in response to Robert Goddard's advocating rocketry.

I did recall this: see: http://www.famousdaily.com/history/n...l-falsely.html

What I remembered is that it came up frequently in the Stundies, and other threads here. It seems popular for some Moon landing deniers, I think.
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Running gag.
The claim some people make is that rockets fly by pushing against the air, so they won't work in a vacuum.
That appears to be his stance, along with joules free expansion experiment where a gas moving into a vacuum does no work.
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