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He assumed his father's title after he was executed? Tricky.
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Rwalsh, Are you going to try and address the problem of the multitude of interpretations possible with Nostradamus' quatrains?
My prediction is that for as long as you continue to post in this thread the problem will be raised by various people, but you will continue to ignore/fail to understand it. |
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Do we really need to analyze a bunch of random prose to know that mystical prophesy is bunk? If somebody said the Pentagon was developing a simulation of the entire world and everyone in it so they could predict what people will do in the future, that I might buy, but this baloney of staring into a pot, come on, I think we all know what kind of pot he was staring it. That's assuming this person really even existed, for all any of us know he was just a literary invention, like Jesus or Osiris.
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Name any incident where any writing of Nostradamus was used to predict an event before it actually happened.
Oh, right you can't If the prophecy only becomes apparent after the event it is a bit of a failure as a prophecy really |
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Equally, when the same prophesy can be used to postdict multiple events, it is a bit of a failure as prophesy.
Any of Nosti's predictions can be shown to postdict anything, a point that flies right over the head of Rwalsh despite all the evidence in this thread to the contrary. Norm |
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Well, we have the resident expert on Board, so let us, as julie Andrews famously espoused start at the very beginning... a very good place to start... Here is Quatrain 1:1
Sitting alone at night in secret study; it is placed on the brass tripod. A slight flame comes out of the emptiness and makes successful that which should not be believed in vain. Estant assis de nuict secret estude Seul reposé sur la selle d'œrain; Flambe exigue sortant de solitude Fait prosperer qui n'est à croire vain. What does this mean, and what does it postdict? Rwalsh? Anyone? Norm |
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Isn't it obvious? It's predicting the discovery of the Higgs boson...
Sitting alone at night in secret study; The LHC is hidden away underground - 'at night' being poetic for in the dark. it is placed on the brass tripod. Well, you wouldn't expect old Nozzer to know about toroidal doohickeys, would you? A slight flame comes out of the emptiness and The protons smash together, generating energy and stuff makes successful that which should not be believed in vain. and there is the Higgs! Simples! |
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Now *that's* spooky - two posters come up with the same idea as to the meaning.
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Someone tell me that Rwalsh is doing some kind of wierd Andy Kauffman style performance art here.
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Wow! Talk about drawing a conclusion out of nothing! What exactly is this wisdom that a hypothetical somebody may fail to learn?
BTW, here's some stuff to help you: 1. Wisdom is the combination of knowledge and experience 2. Knowledge is information in context that allows you to make better decisions in the future based upon past outcomes in similar contexts 3. Information is data in context that gives it meaning or relevance 4. Data is discrete facts, numbers. Ergo, this is not wisdom in prophecy at it lacks context at all levels and the source data stands in isolation. |
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Century 1 Quatrain 47
The speeches of Lake Leman will become angered, the days will drag out into weeks, then months, then years, then all will fail. The authorities will condemn their useless powers. Lac Léman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Leman some timeline information http://www.google.ca/#q=lake+leman&h...f278915a9b6816 Lake Leman otherwise known as Lake Geneva - Largest Lake in Eastern Europe |
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Century 1 Quatrain 46
Very near Auch, Lectoure and Mirande a great fire will fall from the sky for three nights. The cause will appear both stupefying and marvellous; shortly afterwards there will be an earthquake. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lectoure http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirande |
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Century 1 Quatrain 24
At the New City he is thoughtfil to condemn; the bird of prey offers himself to the gods. After victory he pardons his captives. At Cremona and Mantua great hardships will be suffered. |
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And? Most of us are aware of these places and where they are, particularly those of us in Europe.
Lac Léman/Lake Geneva is in Western Europe, by the way, not Eastern Europe. Can you point to events that were predicted by these quatrains, occurring after they were written? For example, can you show us that there has been an event in Gers (after the quatrain was written) where fire rained from the sky, followed by an earthquake? |
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Ive only deciphered perhaps 10 of the Hundreds of quatrains still left.. In theory the practice of learning prophetic from the Great Prophecy takes a great deal of study. If at all to reveal any futuristic matters or just to simply display historical matters which prove future sightings by nostradame. But it takes a great deal to understand these things. If at all the works reveal anything for our time. Yet, I am staying strongly away from those at the moment, and focusing more at the beginning. in Century 1
The listed geological maps which I put together myself, is the locations in which one must learn and study yet understand all within the perimeters of prophetic communication. Fire rained from the sky followed by an earthquake could mean several different things. But to me, it sounds nothing on a positive note. Its best to understand the locations first mentioned. And not all quatrains will have locations written, but I focus on the quatrains that are descriptive, for it provides actual facts and for understanding, rather than misinterpretation. Again, YES! Still fluently speaking of the matters of France, But it will not always be on discussion and location of France, Ive found some locations to be elsewhere as well... "But even for the Oracle of Delphi, the predictions were made around her established area. Seems to me that the, prophets then were not that far sighted to see matters of global aspects. But surrounding aspects. But I could be very wrong" Yet- all these things needs recording' |
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I really don't know what you are trying to say, Rwalsh.
Take Century 1 Quatrain 46 - it mentions three real places in Gers. Now what? If you visit those places you'll just find normal French communes. There is nothing magical about the places or their inhabitants, who are just getting on with their lives same as everyone else. |
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Rwalsh: Serious question for you: Allow yourself to briefly assume that Nostradamus did not predict the future in his writings. How would that lack of prognostic ability have manifested itself in his quatrains to such a degree to where you would be unconvinced of his abilities? Assuming he was either just making stuff up as he went along or that he sincerely believed that he was predicting the future, but was just wrong, is it even possible to write the kinds of things he wrote without somebody somewhere at some time interpreting (or mangling) his words to "postdict" some event?
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He would have nothing to say about such small and minor events, no matter how large it may seem to you.
But what I can tell you with certainty... That his ruling and his son. Will not be in favor of the common people. And for the people, would not be too satisfied without a female monarch when she is gone. The Epistle to Henry II. I feel that the Epistle itself is written for... Epistle to Queen Elizabeth II |
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