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12th December 2010, 11:58 AM | #881 |
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I could point out that Diana's death was just as insignificant...but there seems to be little point. You don't come here to consider legitimate counterpoints to your misguided thinking...or even read them.
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12th December 2010, 12:18 PM | #883 |
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Not the unsinkable rubber duck known as Nostradamus again. People read all sorts of stuff in his quatrains but in variably always find the prediction of events after the event had occurred. I remember reading books about Nostradamus in the 1970's and 80's and they were predicting based on interpretation of the quatrains that this or that event would happen in the future. Like the world would end in 1999, or a large asteroid would strikee in 1988 and so on and so forth. What was virtually certain was that the events predicted from his quatrains to occur in the future never happened and yet regarding past events Nostradamus was right.
Isn't it amazing what you can read into vague poetry. More than a decade ago a show here in Canada called History Bites had an episode in which Nostradamus was a psychic selling his quatrains on a 16th century Home Shopping Network. Sums up Natradamus perfectly. |
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Language is amazing. Maybe you should branch out. Nostradamus isn't the only person to have written in the 16th century. There's also Shakespeare (Might I recommend the Tempest); Miguel de Cervantes (Don Quixote, I think you'll relate); and my favorite, Boccaccio's Decameron.
If you want that translator thrill, go back a hundred years and check out Chaucer. There are a few different annotated Canterbury Tales but if you pick up an edition without the notes, it'll keep you entertained for months. |
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12th December 2010, 02:18 PM | #885 |
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Rwalsh, why not find something that you think is a prediction of a future event and share it with us? Include date, time, location and other details of the putative occurrence; that way we'll have a baseline to work against.
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12th December 2010, 04:33 PM | #887 |
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Love is blind... Becuase people like you folks are ignorant.
@Apology Its states here Century X Quatrain 67 A very mighty trembling in the month of May, Saturn in Capricorn, Jupiter and Mercury in Taurus: Venus also, Cancer, Mars in Virgo, Hail will fall larger than an egg. |
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No, love is "blind" because we tend to focus on only the best features in the people we love. The term has absolutely nothing to do with whether anyone here is "ignorant".
Incidentally, please define "ignorant". Are we ignorant because, unlike you, we are not wasting our lives with sitting at home trying to retrofit the quatrains of Nostradamus into events they didn't predict? |
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See what does that even mean? The last time that these constellations aligned like that was in April 1929, and it won't happen again until May 3755, which is after Nostradamus' predicted end of the world, depending on which interpreter you believe. There was a big earthquake in 1929, but it wasn't in May, when Nostradamus talks about a great trembling. In addition, I haven't been able to find any record of egg-sized hail anywhere in 1929, although plenty of places were keeping records that far back.
The prediction in Nostradumber's book makes more sense. |
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Jean Jacques Rousseau It isnt all that bad now is it? When I got the wise crack jokes from you to entertain me during this course. @Apology, Since when have you become a Decipher Seems u studied something?? Im not aware of your research, do tell- Becuase according to this quatrain, and many ALIKE! that mention planetary things. Its best to ask- Slooh Friend over on facebook. Whenever I have a question, Those professionals usually tell me. http://www.facebook.com/#!/slooh You may also wish to add me on facebook if you are so inclined to do so. http://www.facebook.com/#!/LionsPride You may look at some of my artwork, in a sketchbook on Concept art.org http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=195869 |
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Yikes.
You managed to take vague Middle Ages gobbledygook and decipher some kind of modern-day example that fits the pattern. You should really have your own religious TV show. Jack Van Impe does this every day, albeit he has much nicer hair than you. |
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Indeed; for example, since the British Royal Family is apparently so significant, are there any verses prophesying that the wife of the heir to the throne would be poked with a stick, as happened last week? Decoded before the event, of course.
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Rwalsh,can you take a look at the quatrains and predict something instead of retro-fitting events? Tell us about something that will happen,say,next year.
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According to the price tag on the back of my Nostradamus book, I became interested in Nostradamus around 1992 and I know I realized it was all a crock by 1996 at the latest because that's when I left college.
What made me realize that Nostradamus was a crock? I took a mandatory class on critical thinking while I was in college. This class taught me the basics of logic, which in turn taught me how to realize when people are lying to me, telling me what I want to hear, or stretching the truth to fit their own agenda. As part of that class, we watched this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dp2Zqk8vHw I know it's about astrology, but Nostradamus was an astrologer, as well as using the same type of writing in order to make his "predictions". I also know that this video may seem like a "trick" being played on the students, but it makes an important point. Vaguely-worded predictions can be interpreted to apply to anyone or any situation so that they seem to be accurate and real. What I really want is for you to direct the time and energy you're spending on Nostradamus studying something really worthwhile that will pay you back some real benefits in the future. I can guarantee you that Nostradamus never will. In the amount of time you've spent studying Nostradamus you could have taken art classes or learned the basics of a foreign language. You might have been able to decode half of the French in any Nostradamus quatrain on your own instead of depending on someone else to do it for you. You could have learned the basics of playing the guitar. You could have read the top 20 best English literature novels. You could have learned a computer language so that you could design your own websites and written your own programs. Any one of these things would have been more useful than reading Nostradamus. I don't really "do" facebook or social networking sites, but if you'd like to discuss a quatrain you can post about it here or send me a PM and I will discuss it with you without making fun of you (although I will make fun of Nostradamus himself). I've been very busy with the Wikileaks cable thing and taking care of my elderly parents, but I should be able to get back to you in a day or two. BTW I've looked at your artwork and you are really good! The only thing I'd say in criticism is that some of it is kind of scary and wouldn't match people's couches very well, so if you're having trouble selling it, that's why. However, I think it's better to stay true to yourself rather than become the next Thomas Kinkade. It's more important to have fun and feel inspired than it is to make money anyway. Spend more time on art and less time on Nostradamus please. Your art can still be scary and not match people's couches and I'll still like it and so will a lot of other people! |
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I KNOW ITS REAL. THERE IS NO ILLUSION AS TO WHAT NOSTRADAMUS WAS. In time he will present to me knowledge. But right now is not that time YET. It shall come. Not as soon as you hope but it will present itself before you, non-believers.
Infact' Who would you believe more. God Or Nostradamus to be more correct? You Believe in God do you not? Its crossed everyones mind at one point, Everyones mind. The only reason Men complain, is that Men Die' God is a Prophecy itself, The Whole Universe is Prophecy. Its Beyond your understanding. Do you believe that all men were designed equally' That all mens Minds are alike? No they are not, Some peoples minds are powerful unique in its task of individualism Sure All this Nostradamus stuff Baffles the mind, I agree. But without the persuit of mystery- Then what is left to keep a person on edge, To think strong, to know decisions, to create- To manifest to learn, To do anything? Like a 8 year old that can count numbers like a Calculator could. Or a Child who constructs Canvas masterpieces. You are baffled then are you not? Then what makes Nostradamus so far from that construct. Nostradamus mind was completly diverse, diametrical, calculatory, even imaginatory- Who understands the mind? You only tend to understand your own mind, And to think that we are all alike, But that is simply not. Some Plants grow different and the same with humans. JAMES RANDI, He eats off the common peoples minds to make him belief his skepticism, and He desecrates Nostradamus as if he was some Ripped up clothing ready to be tossed to the curb- WHO IS HE TO TAKE AWAY. Hes like the Guy who goes around Saying "THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUSE" To a Group of 2 Year olds. In this Case, He is simply ATTACKING PROPHECY Becuase his mind was No way near Grown to know how to understand it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVq02...eature=related |
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First of all, I'm fairly certain Randi wouldn't do such a thing to children, but it is interesting that you chose that particular comparison. You do realize that in that example you are putting yourself (and others like you) in the roles of the two year olds? Is it that maybe, deep down you know Nostradamus' powers weren't real and while you know it you don't want to believe it and in any case you don't want someone (I assume) you take to be a smug, mean-spirited know-it-all rubbing your face in it? I, too have taken a look at your artwork and you have genuine talent. I sincerely suggest that you devote more time to that and less time to this Nostradamus nonsense. |
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I note you ducked the first part of my post. Did I pose an uncomfortable question?
As far as "everything" being prophetic, if that really is true, why not stick with art? You are genuinely good at that and it is clear that that is your best mode of expression. Your attempts at both interpreting and defending Nostradamus on the other hand are confusing and embarrassing. |
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If you believe this, then you must believe that future events are already in place, waiting for time to catch up. But if you think that, then it follows that everything that every one of us is doing is simply following a laid down path; in which case we are all controlled puppets, not creatively-thinking individuals; which means, therefore, that your art work is not the product of your creative mind, but something you have already been programmed to do.
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You know what is real? You have yet to offer any evidence that what Nosti "predicted" has ever come true.
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I keep telling myself there is no Santa Clause.
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My mom says that when I saw the Christmas tree at 2 I was terrified, and I screamed and ran away, so I guess I'd have been relieved if someone had told me there was no Santa Clause. Apparently I took the presence of such a large amount of foliage inside the house as a sign that something sinister was afoot
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I hereby shamefully admit that I only read the first and last couple of pages of this thread, so if I'm not the first to point this out, I'm sorry.
But some seem to score this as a sort-of hit:
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That, friends and neighbors, is a clear MISS. Diana was born the same year as me, 1961, on July 1. She died August 31, 1997, about two months after her 36th birthday. Now, students, a pop quiz: When does your first year end? Answer: On your first birthday. Question the second: when does your thirty-sixth year end? Diana absolutely lived beyond her thirty-sixth year. Almost two months beyond it, in fact. Yeah, I know, very small point. I'm just sayin', even the hit ain't a hit. |
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