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Old 15th October 2012, 02:16 AM   #961
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Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge View Post
You don't appear to understand the important difference between voltage and power.
So step-up transformers don't break the laws of thermodynamics?
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Old 15th October 2012, 02:25 AM   #962
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Originally Posted by Sideroxylon View Post
So step-up transformers don't break the laws of thermodynamics?
Awww. I was just going to offer to sell him some. Spoiler tags, please.
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Old 15th October 2012, 02:28 AM   #963
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
Why would Nostradamus mention anything exact.

Indeed, why would someone with the ability to predict the future actually predict anything instead of producing meaningless waffle?

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Its choas to understand. simply choas

If you read any medium of prophet, you wont get exact answers. im just saying

Exactly, you get a load of incoherent rambling that can be retrofitted to all sorts of things after they have happened. It doesn't actually predict anything.
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Old 15th October 2012, 06:07 AM   #964
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
Why would Nostradamus mention anything exact. Its choas to understand. simply choas


Aren't choas those things that are like alpacas only a little bit smaller?


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If you read any medium of prophet, you wont get exact answers. im just saying


Wont im saying if you read small of prophet? How about large of prophet?
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I dunno, oh Pharaoh. Are you just sayin' or are you just sayin'?
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Old 15th October 2012, 01:11 PM   #966
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Rwalsh, will you acknowledge that I am better at interpreting Nuttydonuts' writings than you are? If not, why not?
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Old 15th October 2012, 02:09 PM   #967
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
Magnification Solar Power

Ive tested this with one magnification sheet and I was able to get 3 volt out of the 1.5volt laser. Its showing promise.
Promise indeed. I promise it won't work.
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Old 15th October 2012, 02:29 PM   #968
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Been thinking about getting a prophet v lately. Should I go with a used one on EBay or a plug in one?
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Old 15th October 2012, 02:39 PM   #969
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Rwalsh, I'm curious. Why are reflections needed? Aren't enough those magnification sheets? How does one make a magnification sheet? You can take another 21 months to answer it properly should you need them.
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Old 15th October 2012, 02:56 PM   #970
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
Ive tested this with one magnification sheet and I was able to get 3 volt out of the 1.5volt laser. Its showing promise.
Big deal. I'm currently standing next to a machine that puts out 6600 V with only 690 V going in. My company has been buying these for years.
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Old 15th October 2012, 03:03 PM   #971
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Originally Posted by aleCcowaN View Post
Rwalsh, I'm curious. Why are reflections needed?
Because without the reduction in capacity due to deterioration of light source introduced by less than efficient mirrors and lenses, the current would be so immense it would simply melt the solar panel.
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Old 16th October 2012, 02:59 AM   #972
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
Whats clear is the Death in the age. Im not to say I am correct about every word of this statement, but its evident of the apparent Age of Diana's Death. Thats Enough for me to beleive furthermore.
wow! You set a really low bar there.

ETA - Old thread is old

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Old 16th October 2012, 03:23 AM   #973
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Originally Posted by Stray Cat View Post
Because without the reduction in capacity due to deterioration of light source introduced by less than efficient mirrors and lenses, the current would be so immense it would simply melt the solar panel.
That may explain it. I'm sure there's a serious technical reason that Rwalsh will explain and not a magical setup reason.

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For the past year I have been engadging in. Perpetual Concept.

Like Nostradamus, he speaks of the term "Perpetual" "Perpetual Light" perpetual perpetual perpetual
Perpetual like Duracell bunnies? Certainly Nostradamus is not enough to appease your thirst for the occult.

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Ive tested this with one magnification sheet and I was able to get 3 volt out of the 1.5volt laser. Its showing promise.
My old cathodic-tube monitor gives 25,000 volts but it's plugged to a 220 volt power system. More than 100 times higher! But I still have to pay my power bill, can you explain it? is it because of the iron and the dishwasher? How can I use a magnification sheet in this case?
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Old 16th October 2012, 03:32 AM   #974
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Originally Posted by aleCcowaN View Post
That may explain it. I'm sure there's a serious technical reason that Rwalsh will explain and not a magical setup reason.
Let's hope it includes the terms amps and watts and excludes the terms quantum and unicorn.
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Old 16th October 2012, 03:48 AM   #975
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
For the past year I have been engaging in. Perpetual Concept.

Like Nostradamus, he speaks of the term "Perpetual" "Perpetual Light" perpetual perpetual perpetual

To me, Ive always been fascinated about perpetual as well.
For the past 10 years Ive concepted, contemplated, resolving this objective, this fundemental for perpetual energy. Indeed I feel that once the world is open to the concept, it will change in favour of goodness.

So its in my efforts I wish to show something different.
I tested my concept finally. And I was much appleased'

And yes. Even my closest friends are skeptics of it. And the forums I shown it on have been very skeptic of it.

Now... There is a quatrain in Nostradamus first book. That caught my EYE, instant. And it has also helped me create the next phase in my development.

Magnification Solar Power

Ive tested this with one magnification sheet and I was able to get 3 volt out of the 1.5volt laser. Its showing promise.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d126/deathelm/MAG.jpg
Seeing as solar panels degrade at a rate of 0.7% to 9% per annum I'm afraid your perpetual sun machine has already fallen at the first hurdle.

COMMONLY OBSERVED DEGRADATION IN FIELD-AGED PHOTOVOLTAIC MODULES
M. A. Quintana and D. L. King, Sandia National Laboratories
T. J. McMahon and C. R. Osterwald, National Renewable Energy Laboratory

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Data from a multicrystalline module continuously exposed outdoors in open circuit configuration for eight years at Sandia shows about 0.5% per year performance loss [2]. A recent study at the National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) suggests that performance of both single and multi-crystalline field-aged modules degrades about 0.7% per year, primarily due to I sc losses caused by UV absorption at or near the top of the silicon surface [3]. Finally, data from the LEEE-TISO, CH-Testing Centre for Photovoltaic Modules http://leee.dct.supsi.ch/PV/Results Tested_modules.htm, reports power degradation rates on c-Si modules ranging from 0.7%-9.8% in the first year of exposure and 0.7%-4.9% in the second year of exposure.
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Old 18th October 2012, 04:19 AM   #976
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Let's hope it includes the terms amps and watts and excludes the terms quantum and unicorn.
Ah, but..

A quantum unicorn would be very impressive...
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Old 18th October 2012, 07:49 AM   #977
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Ah, but..

A quantum unicorn would be very impressive...
Unicorns are quantum, and that’s why you never see ‘em,
They can’t be put into a cage or stuffed in a museum,
‘Cause quantum theory tells us that the moment that you stare,
The observer changes the conditions, and they simply are not there!

Tra-la-la-tum!

It’s always a puzzlement with unicorns that’re quantum,
Explorers and fringe scientists and the Hist’ry channel want ‘em,
But just when a body tracks one down and finds one on its own,
The quantum theory kicks in and the blasted thing is gone!

Tra-la-la-tum!

The moral of my story is that quantum’s the explanation
Why unicorns and bigfeet and the a-li-en invasion
Will never be macroscopically observed in our universe,
‘Cause quantum theory says in terms that are so terse,

Unicorns are quantum, and that’s why you never see ‘em,
They can’t be put into a cage or stuffed in a museum,
‘Cause quantum theory tells us that the moment that you stare,
The observer changes the conditions, and they simply are not there!
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Well when you run tests. Like the ones I did.

It gives enough proof on its own you can accumilate free energy with accelerating light energy.
Infact. There are new branch of solar panels that are being implimented with a magnification Film to increase that energy.

My example shown that. with my proper technique. When I was removing just one Magnification sheet. And when the Solar panel. Plus and Negative wires connected a small fan. It infact accelerated the fan when applied. Slowed it down when you removed the mag sheet.

Im just thinking can I take it to another level. with my concept.

I plan to create this final version next month. And Will share youtube video of my concieved plans.

As for that Burning of the solar panel. You cannot expect that much light applied to create any hazard what so ever. Its taking small devices, accumilating them, multiplying them. And before you know it I can have several of these concepts before me, running just about anything. From heat, all the appliances, basically all my necessities. Even during the night.

These are closed systems. My future plans will include create small portable vehicles as such.

weather it is perpetual or not I dont give a damn. In the end I would like to see something that will be free and renewable and easily cheap to replace. Its necessity.

As to what engineers think in there labratories. I dont give a care in the world how much they get paid for how much they think they know. One of my favorite movies in this regard is "Flash of genius" how a school teacher takes on ford motor company over his conception that was stolen by engineers. If my conception is proven valid. I would let them take it knowing it would be put to greater use amongst humanity. We certainly cannot rely on the oil industry to whom Ive been employed by for over 3 years. And everything about the oil industry is destroying humanity, towards health, education, social structure, political agenda. If we removed that equation we perhaps can live life a little bit brighter.

Its about personal beliefe and I stand by it, as much as I feel nostradamus approves this, and wishes for it as well.

And again, I appreciate Skeptics becuase they are the ones that want to be given beliefe as well.

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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
Well when you run tests. Like the ones I did.


We'll just take your word for it then, will we?



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It gives enough proof on its own you can accumilate free energy with accelerating light energy.


Umm . . .

No.


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Infact. There are new branch of solar panels that are being implimented with a magnification Film to increase that energy.


Maybe you'd like to link us to a spec sheet, so we can see this marvel for ourselves?


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My example shown that. with my proper technique. When I was removing just one Magnification sheet. And when the Solar panel. Plus and Negative wires connected a small fan. It infact accelerated the fan when applied. Slowed it down when you removed the mag sheet.


Tell us about your technique for removing magnification sheets.

I'll bet it's all in the wrist action, isn't it?


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Im just thinking can I take it to another level. with my concept.


That Nobel Prize is just around the corner.


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I plan to create this final version next month. And Will share youtube video of my concieved plans.


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Ooh, there's more.


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As for that Burning of the solar panel. You cannot expect that much light applied to create any hazard what so ever.


I'm fairly confident that you're right about that bit, at least. There's not chance at all that this setup is going to produce dangerous amounts of anything.


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Its taking small devices, accumilating them, multiplying them. And before you know it I can have several of these concepts before me, running just about anything. From heat, all the appliances, basically all my necessities. Even during the night.


I don't know that this even makes enough sense to qualify as being wrong.


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These are closed systems. My future plans will include create small portable vehicles as such.


I think you might have 'closed' and 'static' mixed up, as well as about a billion other things.


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weather it is perpetual or not I dont give a damn.


I think you also have a bit of a misunderstanding about what the 'perpetual' in 'perpetual motion' actually means.


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In the end I would like to see something that will be free and renewable and easily cheap to replace. Its necessity.


TNSTAAFL


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As to what engineers think in there labratories. I dont give a care in the world how much they get paid for how much they think they know.


I"m sure the feeling would be mutual, had they ever heard of you.

I guess that Nobel Prize will jolly well make them take notice though.


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One of my favorite movies in this regard is "Flash of genius" how a school teacher takes on ford motor company over his conception that was stolen by engineers. If my conception is proven valid. I would let them take it knowing it would be put to greater use amongst humanity. We certainly cannot rely on the oil industry to whom Ive been employed by for over 3 years. And everything about the oil industry is destroying humanity, towards health, education, social structure, political agenda. If we removed that equation we perhaps can live life a little bit brighter.


Well, if it was in a movie, it must be true. How could I ever have doubted?


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Its about personal beliefe and I stand by it, as much as I feel nostradamus approves this, and wishes for it as well.


Your personal beliefs don't trump the laws of physics.

Also, Nostradamus neither approves nor disapproves. He is teh ded.


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And again, I appreciate Skeptics becuase they are the ones that want to be given beliefe as well.


I'm afraid you have this wrong as well.
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Old 22nd October 2012, 10:47 AM   #981
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It gives enough proof on its own you can accumilate free energy with accelerating light energy.
I don't know what you think you mean by 'accelerating light energy' but it's nonsense.
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There are new branch of solar panels that are being implimented with a magnification Film to increase that energy.
A magnifier in front of a solar cell does not increase energy, it just focuses the existing energy in the right place.
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I plan to create this final version next month. And Will share youtube video of my concieved plans.
I wonder if you mean you'll share video of your implemented plans. That would be better.

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As to what engineers think in there labratories. I dont give a care in the world how much they get paid for how much they think they know. One of my favorite movies in this regard is "Flash of genius" how a school teacher takes on ford motor company over his conception that was stolen by engineers.
Since, as you say, there are already photocells with magnifiers (and have been for decades, as I recall my father's old camera light meter) it seems unlikely you'll win millions from anyone for stealing your idea.

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Its about personal beliefe and I stand by it, as much as I feel nostradamus approves this, and wishes for it as well.
If the physics doesn't work then your personal belief won't change that. Nor will it change the fact that Nostradamous was just another medieval fake fortune-teller.
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You must see now, my son, that I find by my calculations, which are according to revealed inspiration, that the sword of death is now approaching us, in the shape of pestilence, war more horrible than has been known in three lifetimes, and famine. This famine will fall upon the earth, and return there often, according to the words, "I will visit their iniquities with a rod of iron, and will strike them with blows."


Why would Nostradamus write. About this third world war in the context that the sword of death approaches us? "US?"
The third world war in his time? or our time. He write when all the prophecies are fulfilled. The removal of ignorance

The removal of ignorance.

Is this not the qoute from Psalms even to look into it what dose it mean

"I will visit their iniquities with a rod of iron, and will strike them with blows."

Our Iniquities
abomination, baseness, crime, evildoing, heinousness, immorality, infamy, injustice, miscreancy, misdeed, offense, sinfulness, unfairness, unrighteousness, wickedness, wrong, wrongdoing

To me Its like this Giant. With a rod in his hand. And he walks on the earth bashing the ground with this rod of iron. Is this God who plans to beat us for our wrong doing. You look at humanity and what we are, we dont care. The governments sit at there thrown, just to regulate what is there. Nothing changes. You think it should change. If a Government stood up and finally made changes. What would favour god. Would God not like to see the government bann all alchole and smoking. Of course. Would god not like to see them shut down pornography, of course. Would god not like to see us destroy the value of money. Of course. Of course. Would God not want for all man and creatures to prosper and live happily. Of course. Even if that meant to be vegetarian. of course. of course of course.

The spirite of God rests in the peoples doing

If you were a god would you not want all these to change,. If I was a god I be furious of all humanity

There is the Government law. But what about gods law. What about God. What about what is truly good for humanity the peoples of earth.

Is there not enough land on this earth for every homeless man. Of course. Is there enough ground to feed yourself all necessities, of course.

If Nostradamus is telling me this third world war is approaching us. Then Im listening. And the oilfield can really go screw itself. To hell with oil.

To me its David vs Goliath.

Only Im much smaller than David and Goliath is Oblivion itself.

Why am I portray as a Snake. Becuase I work for the government, and this government owns this, im just a number to them, im nothing more to them. Im a statistic, not a person. Im there little Yes man. They control me and my life from the start. Ya Im there snake alrite. They made me in this snake.

Ill free myself from being part of there snake fest. no more lies i want to see change one day god dammit


Dont worry MR. Government Ill pump your oil. Ill pay your taxes, I will fuel your unethical machines. your tanks, ill give way to more universal sufferage. Ill do your part for now you lowsy son of a bitch.

I have a right to be angry. Yes

Nobody on earth should be living in poverty. go hungry. No nation should be in debt either

I CAME TO THIS WORLD IN A MESS IN SHAMBLES. I am still part of that. Its not fair to any man to be born here. In this catastrophy

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If Nostradamus is telling me this third world war is approaching us.

Oh dear, not another third world war.
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Dont worry, Im still as confused as you are about Nostradamus. Although I understand alot of it. But How to see. Like he did.

Im trying to figure out, why Nostradamus named alot of places in france to alot of the quatrains.

Im thinking for example there is two quatrains in Century XI

Century XI

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"Meysnier, Manthi" and the third one that will come,
Plague and new affront, to tourble the enclosure:
The fury will bite in Aix and the places thereabout,
Then those of Marseilles will want to double their evil.

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Through Villefranche, MБcon in disorder,
Soldiers will be hidden in the bundles:
In the spring times to change for the King,
In ChБlon and Moulins all cut to pieces.


Villefranche actual place in france.

https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&q=...&ved=0CKkBELYD



Why the extent- Naming all these places in France in quatrains.

are these places actually calculations, is all the places in coherence with the world map not just france. Alot of questions about these locations..

places he names are they actual astrological calculations

I bet if you pin pointed on the map every single location he mentions in france. It probably be a big smiley face in the end

maybe has to do something with astrolabe

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Old 22nd October 2012, 12:35 PM   #985
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Dont worry, Im still as confused as you are about Nostradamus.

Your admission of being confused seems to be well supported by evidence, but without going back too far in this thread, I don't see where anyone else is actually confused about Nostradamus.
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Old 22nd October 2012, 12:44 PM   #986
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Im confused becuase I dont understand his method. What Im looking at now might be something to learn astrolabe.

Today, he really speakin out

Must see now. And now Im seeing that the astrolabe is very important, and the locations he has given are significance to the astrolabe perhaps on a worldy matter

now looking at this

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._astrolabe.png

I Understand. even on some of the maps he drew up. what now those symbols are from.

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Old 22nd October 2012, 12:51 PM   #987
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Im confused becuase I dont understand his method.

No, you're confused because you attach some significance to what he wrote. You get past that and you'll become quite comfortable with the whole situation.
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Old 22nd October 2012, 12:55 PM   #988
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I want to know more of this. Its a map
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Old 22nd October 2012, 01:11 PM   #989
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That must be about the 20th claim.
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Old 22nd October 2012, 01:12 PM   #990
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The numbers and symbols are found on astrolabe.. not all of them.. but still..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentrism

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Old 22nd October 2012, 01:18 PM   #991
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Dont worry, Im still as confused as you are about Nostradamus. Although I understand alot of it. But How to see. Like he did.

Im trying to figure out, why Nostradamus named alot of places in france to alot of the quatrains.

Im thinking for example there is two quatrains in Century XI

Century XI

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"Meysnier, Manthi" and the third one that will come,
Plague and new affront, to tourble the enclosure:
The fury will bite in Aix and the places thereabout,
Then those of Marseilles will want to double their evil.

97

Through Villefranche, MБcon in disorder,
Soldiers will be hidden in the bundles:
In the spring times to change for the King,
In ChБlon and Moulins all cut to pieces.


Villefranche actual place in france.

https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&q=...&ved=0CKkBELYD



Why the extent- Naming all these places in France in quatrains.

are these places actually calculations, is all the places in coherence with the world map not just france. Alot of questions about these locations..

places he names are they actual astrological calculations

I bet if you pin pointed on the map every single location he mentions in france. It probably be a big smiley face in the end

maybe has to do something with astrolabe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe
He was French.
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Old 22nd October 2012, 01:22 PM   #992
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You must see now, my son, that I find by my calculations, which are according to revealed inspiration, that the sword of death is now approaching us, in the shape of pestilence, war more horrible than has been known in three lifetimes, and famine. This famine will fall upon the earth, and return there often, according to the words, "I will visit their iniquities with a rod of iron, and will strike them with blows."


Why would Nostradamus write. About this third world war in the context that the sword of death approaches us? "US?"
The third world war in his time? or our time. He write when all the prophecies are fulfilled. The removal of ignorance

The removal of ignorance.

Is this not the qoute from Psalms even to look into it what dose it mean

"I will visit their iniquities with a rod of iron, and will strike them with blows."

Our Iniquities
abomination, baseness, crime, evildoing, heinousness, immorality, infamy, injustice, miscreancy, misdeed, offense, sinfulness, unfairness, unrighteousness, wickedness, wrong, wrongdoing

To me Its like this Giant. With a rod in his hand. And he walks on the earth bashing the ground with this rod of iron. Is this God who plans to beat us for our wrong doing. You look at humanity and what we are, we dont care. The governments sit at there thrown, just to regulate what is there. Nothing changes. You think it should change. If a Government stood up and finally made changes. What would favour god. Would God not like to see the government bann all alchole and smoking. Of course. Would god not like to see them shut down pornography, of course. Would god not like to see us destroy the value of money. Of course. Of course. Would God not want for all man and creatures to prosper and live happily. Of course. Even if that meant to be vegetarian. of course. of course of course.

The spirite of God rests in the peoples doing

If you were a god would you not want all these to change,. If I was a god I be furious of all humanity

There is the Government law. But what about gods law. What about God. What about what is truly good for humanity the peoples of earth.

Is there not enough land on this earth for every homeless man. Of course. Is there enough ground to feed yourself all necessities, of course.

If Nostradamus is telling me this third world war is approaching us. Then Im listening. And the oilfield can really go screw itself. To hell with oil.

To me its David vs Goliath.

Only Im much smaller than David and Goliath is Oblivion itself.

Why am I portray as a Snake. Becuase I work for the government, and this government owns this, im just a number to them, im nothing more to them. Im a statistic, not a person. Im there little Yes man. They control me and my life from the start. Ya Im there snake alrite. They made me in this snake.

Ill free myself from being part of there snake fest. no more lies i want to see change one day god dammit


Dont worry MR. Government Ill pump your oil. Ill pay your taxes, I will fuel your unethical machines. your tanks, ill give way to more universal sufferage. Ill do your part for now you lowsy son of a bitch.

I have a right to be angry. Yes

Nobody on earth should be living in poverty. go hungry. No nation should be in debt either

I CAME TO THIS WORLD IN A MESS IN SHAMBLES. I am still part of that. Its not fair to any man to be born here. In this catastrophy
You mean that you didn't meet with the Pre-Birth Council to sign the Life Conditions Form 1-D?

Oh my!! This will have to be reported.
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Must be WW 3.1.
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Dont worry, Im still as confused as you are about Nostradamus. Although I understand alot of it. But How to see. Like he did.

Im trying to figure out, why Nostradamus named alot of places in france to alot of the quatrains.
I'm just guessing here, but I think it has a lot to do with the fact that Michel de Nostradame was born, lived, and died in France. As the 16th century wasn't best known for quick and easy international travel, or even quick and easy international communications, it might be down to the fact that he named places which he knew. I know, right? Who'd have thought it.

By trying to add a deeper meaning to the simple point that he named places in and around his home département of Provence, you are reading more into the verses than was ever intended.
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I guessing the astrolabe was like... Google maps or something back in the day..

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To my venerable Lords Messieurs the Canons of the Cathedral Church of the most ancient city of Orange

venerable lords: with respect to your inquiry concerning the specified and enumerated sacrilegious thefts, concerning theft and hoard hidden but not concealed.

According to the astronomical figure drawn above, you will see fully that it shows that the theft of the sacred objects has been perpetrated with the collusion of two of your brothers of the Church indeed, ones who have previously extended to you private counsel on several occasions as to what had befallen your silver. One of them gave his opinion that it had been taken to Avignon, the other that it had been taken some other place. Both were of the opinion that it had been sold, as indeed was their intention.

Booty to be divided among canons who are at present like soldiers. This opinion was not rendered as good and godly and commendable. Several would not agree with it, although some others were pleased though in the end not agreed on one point or the other. But all was halted as the silver was put in the house of one of your people and locked up; which was not done agreeably to some. One opinion held that it was necessary to melt it down into bars and sell it, storing it for the present in the home of one of them.

Then two or three came forth to say that this could not possibly be for scarcely any length of time, since the Roman Church would be involved in most sinister events. It was locked up, although with but two of them remaining of the opinion that it should be sold melted dovm and plotting secretly with one another.

There were only three, and they brothers of the Church, and they have ravished that which was without fault with the intention of stealing everything and not without the collusion of the custodian, for you entrusted the sheep to the wolf. As indeed Jesus Christ for some time committed His flock to long plunderings of His Church, also under the shadow of faith and of probity, as you have committed your silver, sacred and dedicated as it is to the sacred ornamentation of your temple, donated in ages past by Kings, monarchs, lordly sovereigns of the earth as true observers of the faith and of religion.

But note, my venerable Lords, that unless by those of your company who are not without knowledge of the day and the night when the theft of the sacred objects was perpetrated there be restored and replaced in full what was stolen, not only in its place and into the hands of those entrusted with its custody, but also returned into the temple, remembering the silver chalice, there will fall upon them the greatest misfortune that ever befell anyone, on them and on their family; and furthermore, pestilence will approach your city and within its ramparts as great as ever covered your city or was contained within your walls, and let them not object to the above. Priests are like comrades of propitious gods.

But they will see, as it is said, that God takes his vengeance on those who have profaned His holy temple and who have stolen what in ages past was donated by the observers of the Christian religion.

Therefore, let this letter of mine be read in the presence of all your people, as if not: opened until all are present, and then without fail the faces of those in collusion will change with great shame and confusion that they will be unable to repress.

Therefore, keep this my letter as a complete witness of the truth, time to come to bear witness to it, and rest assured, my venerable Lords, if that which was stolen is not brought back one way or another, that they will die the most miserable death, more lingering and more violent and of more inconceivable intensity than ever before occurred€unless everything is restored and replaced in its ancient repository, and thus you will find it to be.

I am grieved that the sheep has been entrusted to the wolf, as much to take note of it as to devise what message to send about it.

What I write you is according to astronomical judgment and, I protest, lacking in offense to anyone in this world. I am human and can err, be wrong and be deceived; nevertheless, be there anyone in your city familiar with the astronomical doctrine extending to the judicial, by the figure let him judge if he understands not that my saying contains the truth.

Have no fear whatever, sirs, but that shortly all will be found, and that if it be not thus, rest assured that their unhappy destiny approaches for those who have perpetrated sacrilege by their execrable crime.

Further I cannot write you for the present. God watch over you to restore you to your first state. Although there are several who would be displeased if they had to wear again the amice, several of them near you, and one there is who will not want to find himself accompanied by another of the same type. God guard you from evil. From Salon this 4th of February, 1562.

M. Nostradamus Salon-de-Crau in Provence
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Old 22nd October 2012, 01:37 PM   #997
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I guessing the astrolabe was like... Google maps or something back in the day..
Not really, more like a table of the planets' movements.

It was used to determine local time if you knew your latitude or your latitude if you knew local time (but you needed to know one or the other), to predict the position of the stars and planets and also to cast horoscopes at a time when people thought horoscopes had any value or accuracy. It didn't measure longitude and so it could not pinpoint someone's position.
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Has anyone else read "The Astrological Diary of God"? I quite enjoyed that.
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The first chart explains many of the other symbols he uses
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
The first chart explains many of the other symbols he uses
Yes, to cast horoscopes. None of it is meaningful.
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