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Old 26th October 2012, 10:08 PM   #1041
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
What I will do is look at all possible out comes of the displayed symbols.
I bet you can see some amazing stuff in this too:
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/File:StaticNoise.jpg

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Im very interested in this layout. He was a percise person no doubt. He made miners rich. When they didnt know how to strick for gold. they come to nostradamus asking for council. and he specifically said to look in the older mine shaft and you will strike it rich. And said that those miners when they come out from the mine after all the amounts of gold. Thought when they left the mine something "Spooky" looming over them

<sniped some cool stuff about ghosts and treasure>
Who would have thought mining in known gold-bearing geology would pay off?
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Old 28th October 2012, 07:17 AM   #1042
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You can tell in his writings he had alot of faith in god. and speaks about him frequently. He thinks god is celestial. so alot of his works are also based off of the bible. He was pretty much well versed in that. He had strong ties with the church. Especially at that time when Astrology was fundamental in society and tied itself into alot of things, especially in the medical field which he strongly pursued.

He is said to have cured over 100 people from the plague. And Im sure that would have been a pretty difficult thing to achieve. Especially his own wife and children died from it. I think for the most part he struggled in his earlier years.
He struggled in his early years due to lack of patronage. He wouldn't be remembered at all if it weren't for Catherine di Medici consulting him. His association with the Medici is also why he's remembered. It's certainly not for his accuracy what with him being a complete failure and all in that respect. Take away the famous association and he's no different than the other charlatans doing fortune telling during this period.
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Old 28th October 2012, 08:35 PM   #1043
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Will see. I know this is a map. Everything that Nostradamus has done. Has purpose. Rest of you might not know it. But I sure do. I will go there, St Helena if the evidence grants me so. What I will do also is perhaps print and cut a astrolab to find those exact corridnants first. It will take some time I am too busy to further investigate. I think it is intresting how the location was close to eachother as well. This I question.

Also I may need to look at the other maps. They all seem to be different. But I know there is something here

I warn any of you. Nostradamus is serious. I swear, this
Once the method is found, all will be reviled. The numbers even.. I question these. Even for some of the quatrains. It seems as tho, some are missing.

I truly feel, that his sacred belongings and works are kept hidden. Where are the rest? Consigned to the flames?

in prose..

book, composition, essay, exposition, fiction, nonfiction, speech, story, talk, text, tongue*, writing

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Old 28th October 2012, 10:45 PM   #1044
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Sincere declarations that Nostradamus is to be taken seriously will get you nowhere around here. A lot of us have grown up with the alleged mysteries of Nosty and upon exploration found it nothing more than fitting from his smorgasbord "predictions" after the fact.
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Old 29th October 2012, 12:04 AM   #1046
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
Once the method is found, all will be reviled.
Truer words were never spoken.
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Old 29th October 2012, 02:45 AM   #1047
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
Everything that Nostradamus has done. Has purpose.
Almanacs were fashionable. Publish almanac. Make money. From gullible. Print more. Ka-chiiing.
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Old 29th October 2012, 04:09 AM   #1048
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
I warn any of you. Nostradamus is serious. I swear, this
Once the method is found, all will be reviled.
And I warn you that I am laughing out loud at your posts.


Gosh, I remember back in the 1980s when all the Nostronuts were claiming that he had predicted that the world would end in 1996 or 1998 or was it 1999 or even 2000?

Strangely, back in the 80s he hadn't predicted Diana's death or 911. he only predicted them after they had happened.

It's great to see that the gullible are still finding things within his writing to believe in.
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Old 29th October 2012, 04:37 AM   #1049
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Originally Posted by Croydon Bob View Post
And I warn you that I am laughing out loud at your posts.


Gosh, I remember back in the 1980s when all the Nostronuts were claiming that he had predicted that the world would end in 1996 or 1998 or was it 1999 or even 2000?

Strangely, back in the 80s he hadn't predicted Diana's death or 911. he only predicted them after they had happened.

It's great to see that the gullible are still finding things within his writing to believe in.
Was 1999:
The year 1999 seven months
From the sky will come the great King of Terror.
To resuscitate the great king of the Mongols. Before and after Mars reigns by good luck. (X.72)
What was Nosty on about there, Rwalsh?
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Old 29th October 2012, 09:21 AM   #1050
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
What I will do is look at all possible out comes of the displayed symbols. Im very interested in this layout. He was a percise person no doubt.


Percision is good.



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He made miners rich. When they didnt know how to strick for gold. they come to nostradamus asking for council. and he specifically said to look in the older mine shaft and you will strike it rich. And said that those miners when they come out from the mine after all the amounts of gold.


"The best place to look for gold is in a gold mine."

Awesome.



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Thought when they left the mine something "Spooky" looming over them

They all thought they were seeing ghosts'


Superstitious miners, eh? Who'd believe such a thing?



Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
In this Specific case pertaining to this map diagram...


Will you ever get around to explaining your reasons for believing that this is a map?



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Clearly the priests never did recovery there monastery treasure.


What's clear is that you haven't yet established that there ever was a treasure.



Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
We all know nostradamus is a pretty good priest orthodox.


No we don't.


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I believe it was a group effort. I believe Nostradamus was a member of the Connons of Orange Church to which this map was create for.


I believe this vodeo contains some claws which we nude to cinsoder.


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No doubt in my mind this is something worth investigating. To unveil some certain hidden glimpse of the future. I myself learned long time ago i can Forsee events myself. Maybe some people dont have that kind of vision but it definently takes a imaginative one to do so...


Unfortunately it appears that your method of investigation lacks the means to determine where imagination ends and reality begins.
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Old 29th October 2012, 09:50 AM   #1051
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Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge View Post
Almanacs were fashionable.

Granny Weatherwax finds them very useful. Especially the ones with nice thin pages.
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Old 29th October 2012, 10:07 AM   #1052
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
Will see. I know this is a map.


Would you care to explain how you know this?



Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
Everything that Nostradamus has done. Has purpose. Rest of you might not know it. But I sure do.


You didn't bother to follow Sideroxylon's link to the 'Magical Thinking' article, did you?



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I will go there, St Helena if the evidence grants me so.


Here's what the evidence has granted you so far:
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No, I've in fact come to the conclusion that latitudes +18° 4' 3" and +17° 9' 17" are somewhere in the Northern Hemisphere.

Your own picture (below) shows that you've input negative numbers for the latitude and I assume that the only reason you ended up with a point anywhere near St Helena (inasmuch as 600 km could be said to be 'near') is that you left the longitude field blank and the applet has used the Greenwich Meridian (0° 0' 0") as the default.


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You're completely ignoring that the only reasons that you came up with a location even remotely near St Helena are that you entered some random numbers off a diagram of which you have zero understanding into an application that was only ever going to point to locations along the Greenwich Meridian, swapped hemispheres because you didn't like the look of the North African desert and then fudged several hundred kilometres for no apparent reason other than there happened to be an island there that you think is "interesting".

In other words, your selection of St Helena is no better than random. In terms of its accessibilty to a couple of Dutch priests at the time you believe the events you're not quite descibing took place it's actually considerably worse.



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What I will do also is perhaps print and cut a astrolab to find those exact corridnants first. It will take some time I am too busy to further investigate. I think it is intresting how the location was close to eachother as well. This I question.


I've already told you why, but you choose to ignore the explanation in order to sustain your fantasy.



Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
Also I may need to look at the other maps. They all seem to be different. But I know there is something here


Where?



Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
I warn any of you. Nostradamus is serious. I swear, this
Once the method is found, all will be reviled. The numbers even.. I question these. Even for some of the quatrains. It seems as tho, some are missing.


It seems that way because you're desperate for Nossie's verses to match up better with your version of Life, the Universe and Everything and in order to bring that about you're pretending to yourself that there are missing quatrains that say exactly the things that you want to hear.



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I truly feel, that his sacred belongings and works are kept hidden. Where are the rest? Consigned to the flames?


They exist only in your imagination.


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in prose..

book, composition, essay, exposition, fiction, nonfiction, speech, story, talk, text, tongue*, writing


Umm . . . yeah, sure.
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Old 29th October 2012, 10:40 AM   #1053
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books by Nostradamus

Are there any reprints of original Nostradamus ' books available...for personal interpretation?
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Old 29th October 2012, 10:52 AM   #1054
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Are there any reprints of original Nostradamus ' books available...for personal interpretation?
This would seem a fair place to give your French a solid work out:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/nos/mrg/index.htm
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This would seem a fair place to give your French a solid work out:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/nos/mrg/index.htm
The English bits read like lyrics to an Iron Maiden song.
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Old 29th October 2012, 11:45 PM   #1056
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
snip. Where are the rest? Consigned to the flames?

in prose..

book, composition, essay, exposition, fiction, nonfiction, speech, story, talk, text, tongue*, writing
Hard to say. It's not a very important question. There were probably some at of his writings at Chateau du Blois (in the Loire Valley) but it's not likely anyone cleaning out her things would have found them valuable enough to keep.
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Old 30th October 2012, 08:07 PM   #1057
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Either way. Im gifted with prophetic vision as well.

Before my 18th birthday, I forseen troubles ahead. And I spoke about the troubles approaching america. And I remember speaking to other people about this. Many times. For America to be engadged with war they needed to be attacked, a terrorist attack.
I felt something coming. Its terrible to say the least. but the condition of humanity is very sick. Seeing a world dieing. IS forsee-able clause.

These visions I have today. Are only aided by nostradamus. Its a helpful guide to train the mind more accurate.

I still to this day Know that when Queen elizebeth shall die. There will be great war there after.

When the Queen Shall die
There will be war more terrible
to last longer with grave consequence.
Nations will fall, Leaders will call for vengeance
There will be hardly no end to the suffrage.
Great disagreement who's allies are now enemy.

When the Queen Shall die... Expect. Terrible leaderships.


Queen Elizabeth will die in her 98th Year.

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Old 30th October 2012, 09:05 PM   #1058
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Again, you are wrong. Note that Noseypants refers to THE Queen, not A Queen. He is therefore referring to the band Queen rather than some footling, unimportant monarch. The death of Queen inarguably came with the death of Freddie Mercury on November 24th 1991. On the 27th of December, the United Nations begins the process of intervening in the Yugoslavian conflict, a "war more terrible." In December the Soviet Union comes to an end.

Once again, Rwalsh, I am better at interpreting these things than you are. Agreed?
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Old 30th October 2012, 09:28 PM   #1059
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He had strong ties with the church.
Yes indeed. Sometimes they got a bit too strong for his liking.
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The Grand Inquisition, which began around 1228, was still spreading its bloody wings. It began to decline during the late 16thcentury, but in Spain it survived until the 1800’s. Nostradamus was summoned once to appear before the Inquisition in 1538 on a matter of a few thoughtless words spoken to a workman. He was released, but fled France for a time anyway.
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One misconception led to another, and the infamous agents of the Spanish Inquisition (the repressive European religious establishment of that era) sought his arrest. Wishing to avert the wrath of tainted religious extremists, Nostradamus left his home in France and wandered through Italy.
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Nostradamus was of Jewish origin; this immediately made him suspect in the eyes of the Inquisition, which persecuted Judaism. Astrology and alchemy were both forbidden. Prophecy was also completely heretical in the view of the Church. Nostradamus' life was under continual threat. The originality of his behaviour and ideas forced him to take to the road from time to time, to avoid the authorities.
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Old 30th October 2012, 09:30 PM   #1060
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Either way. Im gifted with prophetic vision as well. < silly twaddle snipped>
Uh-huh. How about using a spell checker? Give that a try.

It's almost amusing, the number of self proclaimed "prophets" who can't spell properly. An endless chorus of "PAI ATTENSHUN TU ME!"

Almost amusing.
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Either way. Im gifted with prophetic vision as well.

<snip>


Dude, judging by the apparent invisibility of most of this thread to you it seems that you aren't even gifted with normal vision.
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Old 31st October 2012, 01:20 AM   #1062
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On the surface the OP seems to have an obsession with Nostradamus but throughout this thread we have repeatedly seen how little he knows about his apparent idol's life, writings or subsequent scholarship on same. I would have been reading far and wide on the man had I thought he had the degree of importance that Rwalsh has claimed.

Any real study effort would eat into time spent fantasizing about fame, fortune and having special powers and insights not possessed by mere mortals and jealous sceptics.
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I still to this day Know that when Queen elizebeth shall die. There will be great war there after.

That is a prediction worthy of Nostradamus, considering it happened in 1603. And 1914 is after 1603, right?

If, per chance, you mean Queen Elizabeth II, I think you're vastly over estimating the power our monarch has these days. There may be a war after she dies, but it won't be related to her death.

I predict that when she dies, there will be a bank holiday and golden, horse drawn carriages on the TV.

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Either way. Im gifted with prophetic vision as well.

Before my 18th birthday, I forseen troubles ahead. And I spoke about the troubles approaching america. And I remember speaking to other people about this. Many times. For America to be engadged with war they needed to be attacked, a terrorist attack.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timelin...ary_operations

That's going to blow your mind. Note how many wars America have been involved in that required no terrorist attack.

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Before my 18th birthday, I forseen troubles ahead.

But while there's music and moonlight and love and romance,
Let's face the music and dance.
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Before my 18th birthday, I forseen troubles ahead.
The earlier the therapy, the better the result.
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Either way. Im gifted with prophetic vision as well.

Before my 18th birthday, I forseen troubles ahead. And I spoke about the troubles approaching america. And I remember speaking to other people about this. Many times. For America to be engadged with war they needed to be attacked, a terrorist attack.
I felt something coming. Its terrible to say the least. but the condition of humanity is very sick. Seeing a world dieing. IS forsee-able clause.

These visions I have today. Are only aided by nostradamus. Its a helpful guide to train the mind more accurate.

I still to this day Know that when Queen elizebeth shall die. There will be great war there after.

When the Queen Shall die
There will be war more terrible
to last longer with grave consequence.
Nations will fall, Leaders will call for vengeance
There will be hardly no end to the suffrage.
Great disagreement who's allies are now enemy.

When the Queen Shall die... Expect. Terrible leaderships.


Queen Elizabeth will die in her 98th Year.
I think the great mystical powers and spirits or whatever giving you your visions need to look up what the word suffrage means. I'm glad we'll all still be able to vote.
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Rwalsh, is it your prophecy that Queen Elizabeth II will die between 26 April 2023 and 25 April 2024 (her 98th year)? If she should happen to die outwith those dates, will you accept that you have failed as a prophet?
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We can't wait so long. Quick, Rwalsh! I foretell 300,000 people are going to die (that is, cease living) the next weekend. The sudden knowledge of thousands and thousands dying tragically, with great suffering, came to me in a rhyme.

Do you agree? Can you improve what I forebode now?
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That is a prediction worthy of Nostradamus, considering it happened in 1603. And 1914 is after 1603, right?

If, per chance, you mean Queen Elizabeth II, I think you're vastly over estimating the power our monarch has these days. There may be a war after she dies, but it won't be related to her death.

I predict that when she dies, there will be a bank holiday and golden, horse drawn carriages on the TV.
And a coronation.
With lots of coronation titbits on sale.
There could even be street parties
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Old 31st October 2012, 05:41 PM   #1071
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Originally Posted by George152 View Post
And a coronation.
With lots of coronation titbits on sale.
There could even be street parties
Somehow I don't think the country will be that happy to see Elizabeth II replaced by Charles III.

Although I suppose any excuse for a party...
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Originally Posted by Elizabeth I View Post
Somehow I don't think the country will be that happy to see Elizabeth II replaced by Charles III.

Although I suppose any excuse for a party...
"A good party halloweth any clod."
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Old 1st November 2012, 02:35 AM   #1073
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Originally Posted by Elizabeth I View Post
Somehow I don't think the country will be that happy to see Elizabeth II replaced by Charles III..
my money's on this problem being solved by him predeceasing her
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Originally Posted by Elizabeth I View Post
Somehow I don't think the country will be that happy to see Elizabeth II replaced by Charles III.

Although I suppose any excuse for a party...
I read somewhere, though I now can't recall where, that Chuck doesn't want to be Charles III (because of associations with Bonnie Prince Charlie*) and is more likely to choose another regnal name. Wayne, or Mervyn, maybe. Or perhaps boringly George VII.

*Will that bring Charles Boden rushing back?
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Originally Posted by Agatha View Post
I read somewhere, though I now can't recall where, that Chuck doesn't want to be Charles III (because of associations with Bonnie Prince Charlie*) and is more likely to choose another regnal name. Wayne, or Mervyn, maybe. Or perhaps boringly George VII.

*Will that bring Charles Boden rushing back?
I wondered about the name. I guess that's why they're given that long string. It would certainly be weird to be Charles all your life then suddenly turn into Arthur or Phillip or Sheldon when you get to be king.
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
I know James Randi is very skeptic in the beleif of Nostradamus - to whom I feel sorry for.

So here is my Decipher. Only I written it for the queen instead of the Kings name.

http://newsaxon.org/blog/view/id_17448

Edited by Locknar:  Edited, breach of Rule 4.
Nostradamas wrote gibberish. You can interpret his nonsense any way you want to. Nostradamas should have stuck with medicine.
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Ive been reading some of the preface, although there are many different prefaces. Although He mentions Plutarch, Who happened to go and decipher Oracle of Delphi.

Lucius Mestrius Plutarchus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutarch


Nostradamus mentions Princess Dianas' age of death. And so. Ive been searching for any clues to when Elizabeth shall sadly pass. After her death, there will be much confusion especially in the political foundation.
So it is said in that time there will be a change in how war is conducted as well.

The whole epistle to King Henry II I feel is written for Elizebeth II. And so if he had given way to princess dianas death. Certainly somewhere.. Which I believe Century X is our present time. Then Queens death is just as piviotol in the changing political role.
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Rwalsh, do you acknowledge I am better at interpreting the writings of Nastidampness than you are?
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Originally Posted by Sledge View Post
Rwalsh, do you acknowledge I am better at interpreting the writings of Nastidampness than you are?
Interpreting is not your cup of tea.
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
So it is said in that time there will be a change in how war is conducted as well....
Ya think? Wow, that's insightful. Nobody else would have predicted that. ()n
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