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Old 26th January 2013, 03:54 AM   #1161
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Originally Posted by dafydd View Post
Sorry, I haven't been awake for long. I would like to see a Nostradamus believer point to a future prediction instead of ''predicting'' events after they happen.
IIRC (and I'm not going back to the beginning of this ridiculous thread to check) he's also predicted that Prince Harry will succeed Charles as King rather than Prince William, because William is not really his son. Quite a long wait before we see if that one's right too.

He still hasn't explained why Nostradamus would care enough about the monarchy of a foreign country centuries hence to bother making such predictions.
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Old 26th January 2013, 03:54 AM   #1162
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
Like I want to tell you everything what we share to one another, Either way it takes alot of great understanding lets put it that way.
There is nothing to understand. I can see why you are dodging the question.
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Old 26th January 2013, 03:57 AM   #1163
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I dont wish to comment. But we talked about these things a couple of pages ago. You can see there.
Yep, when in a hole, stop digging. There is no quatrain about the death of Elizabeth II, although I am sure that believers could shoehorn it with ease.
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Old 26th January 2013, 03:58 AM   #1164
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If anybody needs a good laugh.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/nos/oon/oon14.htm
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Old 26th January 2013, 04:16 AM   #1165
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http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Nostradamus.htm

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Old 26th January 2013, 04:27 AM   #1166
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
Queen Elizabeth will die at 98. There you go, thats all i got for now.


Stop the presses! Nostradamus predicted that a person was going to die of old age, and he did it five centuries in advance! And that is all you got for now after months of scrutinizing quatrains.

The bare facts are that months have gone by and you still can't manage to locate St. Helena in a any-shape representation of the Earth, nor the prime meridian, yet you offer as a prediction something that has essentially a probability in the range of 10 to 15%, so it's like we're seeing a person going into an elevator, the doors closing and the floor indicator already changing quickly and you bet the lift is going to stop in the 10th floor in a building that has only 14 stores, but we have to wait a decade to learn if your "valiant" bet was more than only words. Don't be ridiculous, man!

Why don't you stop throwing loads of tosh here, if not for the sake of logic, for the sake of aesthetics.
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Old 26th January 2013, 04:30 AM   #1167
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means to abolish the military completly
Ah , you meant ''dismantle their''. Is English your first language?
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Old 26th January 2013, 04:31 AM   #1168
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Originally Posted by aleCcowaN View Post


Stop the presses! Nostradamus predicted that a person was going to die of old age, and he did it five centuries in advance! And that is all you got for now after months of scrutinizing quatrains.

The bare facts are that months have gone by and you still can't manage to locate St. Helena in a any-shape representation of the Earth, nor the prime meridian, yet you offer as a prediction something that has essentially a probability in the range of 10 to 15%, so it's like we're seeing a person going into an elevator, the doors closing and the floor indicator already changing quickly and you bet the lift is going to stop in the 10th floor in a building that has only 14 stores, but we have to wait a decade to learn if your "valiant" bet was more than only words. Don't be ridiculous, man!

Why don't you stop throwing loads of tosh here, if not for the sake of logic, for the sake of aesthetics.
it just seems to me nostradamus was infatuated with the queen elizebeth. thinks highly of her.

And me, I didnt give a rats ass about the queen up until Nostradamus. But obviously her influence on the world and the people has impressed nostradamus and the peoples
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Old 26th January 2013, 04:31 AM   #1169
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Originally Posted by aleCcowaN View Post


Stop the presses! Nostradamus predicted that a person was going to die of old age, and he did it five centuries in advance! And that is all you got for now after months of scrutinizing quatrains.

The bare facts are that months have gone by and you still can't manage to locate St. Helena in a any-shape representation of the Earth, nor the prime meridian, yet you offer as a prediction something that has essentially a probability in the range of 10 to 15%, so it's like we're seeing a person going into an elevator, the doors closing and the floor indicator already changing quickly and you bet the lift is going to stop in the 10th floor in a building that has only 14 stores, but we have to wait a decade to learn if your "valiant" bet was more than only words. Don't be ridiculous, man!

Why don't you stop throwing loads of tosh here, if not for the sake of logic, for the sake of aesthetics.
Some people are surprised to find a button in an elevator for the floor that they're on.
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Old 26th January 2013, 04:32 AM   #1170
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it just seems to me nostradamus was infatuated with the queen elizebeth. thinks highly of her.

And me, I didnt give a rats ass about the queen up until Nostradamus. But obviously her influence on the world and the people has impressed nostradamus and the peoples
Which ''peoples''?
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Old 26th January 2013, 04:35 AM   #1171
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Which ''peoples''?

What do you want from me which? I cant explain everything percisely the way you see fit.
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Old 26th January 2013, 04:38 AM   #1172
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What do you want from me which? I cant explain everything percisely the way you see fit.
All I asked was which ''peoples'' Queen Elizabeth I impressed. If you are not wiling to back up your statements then don't make any. You still haven't mentioned the quatrain about Queen Elizabeth II dying at 98. I'm not surprised, a google reveals that there is no such quatrain.
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Old 26th January 2013, 04:45 AM   #1173
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What is a ''valcano''? What are you expecting to find on St. Helena? Napoleon's pyjamas?
Im expected to uncover a important grail perhaps from Cannons of Orange. Perhaps Silver. And then Books. Contained Knowledge, within the books.. "The books which were consigned to the flames" (Which never happened).
Instead. Those books kept hidden

OR!!

It could be a religious aspect of it as well perhaps a church. perhaps something vital within that church.

Or it could be elsewhere in the country side. And the Cannons of Orange Church Diagram is the Map to its Mark


Or if all else fails. Perhaps its just Nostradamus telling me to have a nice vacation to St. Helena. It sounds really fun to go there. Napoleon was exiled there once

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Im expected to uncover a important grail perhaps from Cannons of Orange. Perhaps Silver. And then Books. Contained Knowledge, within the books.. "The books which were consigned to the flames" (Which never happened).
Instead. Those books kept hidden

OR!!

It could be a religious aspect of it as well perhaps a church. perhaps something vital within that church.

Or it could be elsewhere in the country side. And the Cannons of Orange Church Diagram is the Map to its Mark


Or if all else fails. Perhaps its just Nostradamus telling me to have a nice vacation to St. Helena. It sounds really fun to go there.
Prepare yourself for a major disappointment. It's ''Canons'', by the way. A cannon is a big gun.

http://www.reformed.org/documents/in...of_orange.html

The Canons Of The Council Of Orange do not mention St. Helena or Nostradamus.

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Old 26th January 2013, 04:50 AM   #1175
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
Like I want to tell you everything what we share to one another, Either way it takes alot of great understanding lets put it that way.
Are you claiming you share things with Nostradamus?

I don't think you have got anything to share. There is no deduction or calculation. You plucked that number out of the air.
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Old 26th January 2013, 04:55 AM   #1176
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post

What you think were are fools? Not to believe?
Believe what?

Quote:
. Nostradamus works are correct you just dont know it yet
We know that old Nostra's works are nonsense and you prove it with every one of your posts. Years of research and you can't even get the word 'Canons'' right.
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Old 26th January 2013, 04:55 AM   #1177
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Nostradamus did not predict the future. Those who believe he did are being foolish.
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Old 26th January 2013, 04:56 AM   #1178
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Nostradamus did not predict the future. Those who believe he did are being foolish.
No he didnt predict it you are correct.

He just wrote a decent realistic book about it.
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Old 26th January 2013, 04:58 AM   #1179
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No he didnt predict it you are correct.

He just wrote a decent realistic book about it.
He wrote four-line vague nonsense. His book of jam recipes was much better.
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Nostra was an apothecary, he had access to drugs, he was stoned out of his mind most of the time. No wonder he wrote such tosh.
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Old 26th January 2013, 05:13 AM   #1181
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What Kind of Skeptic Buys Nostradamus book worth over 10,000 dollars? obviously a believer


Becuase James Randi has, Oh yea. James Randi spent a fortune on a nostradamus book. How much was it again?
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Its a Impressive Artifact' they sayin in the video in the first minute of the video.

So A Nostradamus Book is impressive? Intresting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ybf6t05jXQ
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Old 26th January 2013, 05:17 AM   #1183
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No he didnt predict it you are correct.

He just wrote a decent realistic book about it.
He wrote a set of quatrains in language so vague and ambiguous that every generation could find (and have found) some they could interpret as applying to events in their lifetimes.
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Originally Posted by Rwalsh View Post
What Kind of Skeptic Buys Nostradamus book worth over 10,000 dollars? obviously a believer


Becuase James Randi has, Oh yea. James Randi spent a fortune on a nostradamus book. How much was it again?
A collector of rare books? A person with a large disposable income? It may surprise you to learn that many skeptics spend a great deal of time researching the things they are skeptical about. They often have a greater knowledge than the true believers. You have been shown up many times and I am surprised that you don't know much more about the subject of your obsession and the time and environment that he lived in.
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Its a Impressive Artifact' they sayin in the video in the first minute of the video.

So A Nostradamus Book is impressive? Intresting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ybf6t05jXQ
Watch the other minutes. It's a fake with added prophecies.
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You know what Really Hurts me the most.

James Randi looks like a great guy. He looks like a honest believer of Nostradamus and phenomenon events or occurrences. Even just the fact that we as humans exist today is phenomenon.

Now that is something I can prove. Humanity is a phenomenon like no other planet.
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A collector of rare books? A person with a large disposable income? It may surprise you to learn that many skeptics spend a great deal of time researching the things they are skeptical about. They often have a greater knowledge than the true believers. You have been shown up many times and I am surprised that you don't know much more about the subject of your obsession and the time and environment that he lived in.
Orange cannons anyone?

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James Randi looks like a great guy. He looks like a honest believer of Nostradamus and phenomenon events or occurrences.
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Appearances can be deceptive.
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Humanity is a phenomenon like no other planet.
Humanity is a planet? We live on a planet, orange cannons and all.
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Now that is something I can prove. Humanity is a phenomenon like no other planet.
Do you even know what a "phenomenon" is?
Me walking to the local shop this morning was a phenomenon like no other on this planet.
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You know what Really Hurts me the most.

James Randi looks like a great guy. He looks like a honest believer of Nostradamus and phenomenon events or occurrences. Even just the fact that we as humans exist today is phenomenon.

Now that is something I can prove. Humanity is a phenomenon like no other planet.
You must have missed the part where he describes it as being nonsense.
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Issu sens de charabia de vieux
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mérité la mort par le modérateur dans treize

It keeps getting better the more I run it through google translate.

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Sense of the old nonsense
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No, Rwalsh didn't say Nostradamus predicted a flat earth. You mistyped. Rwalsh said Nostradamus predicted a round earth. Which he didn't, because that was already well known.

Nostradamus's "predictions" have only ever worked after the event they are supposed to have predicted.
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Nostradamus's "predictions" have only ever worked after the event they are supposed to have predicted.
Yes, predicting the past is easy... you don't even need to learn French.
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Just as predicted by the JREF Psychic Psquad.
Where do we meet to divvy up the million?
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Just as predicted by the JREF Psychic Psquad.
Where do we meet to divvy up the million?
Just beyond the event horizon of the formless.
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Just beyond the event horizon of the formless.
I stopped by Randi's office. All he had was a trilllion dollar platinum coin, which was behind my ear the whole time!

He said I had to get change. I'm taking some quatrains with me to the greyhound race track to bet on ol' Nostro's predictions. I should have the the cash post haste. First round is on me.
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I stopped by Randi's office. All he had was a trilllion dollar platinum coin, which was behind my ear the whole time!

He said I had to get change. I'm taking some quatrains with me to the greyhound race track to bet on ol' Nostro's predictions. I should have the the cash post haste. First round is on me.
You'll have the money to get the treasure from the volcano in no time!
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you'll have the money to get the treasure from the volcanovalcano in no time!
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