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Old 3rd January 2013, 04:13 AM   #241
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Originally Posted by Darth Rotor View Post
You have that wrong. War per Clausewitz is the extension of policy by other means, and policy is "what the king/leader of nation does to achieve his political ends."

If he can get it without war, he most likely will as war is rather expensive and risky.


I'll also agree with gumboot on two of the most successful wars.

Prussian Austrian War, and the war a few years before that with the Danes. Schleswig Holstein is still part of Germany. Also the Greek wars with the Persians, which kept the Greek world Greek and set the stage for Alexander.

But then, the argument for the Khans is pretty strong.
Yes, and Clausewitzian war is proportionate to the aim. World domination? WW1. Application of a little persuasion? China - Vietnam 1979.

How about the least successful war? France -v- Prussia 1870 is good for a laugh. The French got all worked up at the grave insult supposedly offered to their Ambassador by Wilhelm I and declared war, only to be humiliated in months, lose Alsace-Lorraine and see a giant neighbour emerge from the conflict, one which would blight them for many decades.
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Old 4th January 2013, 03:22 AM   #242
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Originally Posted by Darth Rotor View Post
... Prussian Austrian War, and the war a few years before that with the Danes. Schleswig Holstein is still part of Germany.
Not quite all of it. See wiki.
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On 15 June 1920, northern Schleswig officially returned to Danish rule. The Danish/German border was the only one of the borders imposed on Germany by the Treaty of Versailles after World War I which was never challenged by Adolf Hitler.
But, yes, most of the region remained within Germany.
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Old 4th January 2013, 07:25 PM   #243
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Originally Posted by gumboot View Post
Compare this with the Hundred Days, only a year later, when the British fielded an army of 93,000 in Europe to stop Napoleon a second time.
<nitpick>You're counting the Dutch, Belgian, Brunswick and Nassau troops as well in that number. They numbered over 35,000 in Wellington's army (link). But they're not relevant in a discussion on the war of 1812.</nitpick>
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Old 5th January 2013, 01:41 AM   #244
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<nitpick>You're counting the Dutch, Belgian, Brunswick and Nassau troops as well in that number. They numbered over 35,000 in Wellington's army (link). But they're not relevant in a discussion on the war of 1812.</nitpick>

Yes I know, and they are relevant. It was still a British army, under British command. The British paid for those troops, to provide part of their 150,000 commitment under the Seventh Coalition. (Effectively, they were mercenaries in the employ of the British). Because the British Army was scattered around the world, they decided it would be easier and cheaper just to pay their allies for a contribution, than to relocate their own forces.

In 1813, when the British Army reached its peak during the Napoleonic Wars, its regular force consisted of over 250,000 men.
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Old 10th January 2013, 10:02 AM   #245
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Old 10th January 2013, 11:29 AM   #246
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Originally Posted by Dcdrac View Post
There is no such thing as a successful war becaue war is failure the ultimate failure a tragie conseunce of a an inability to see that is it an inability to see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKb9X...endscreen&NR=1
Repeating it doesn't make it so.
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