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Old 11th December 2015, 01:51 PM   #81
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HOW DID YOU COLLECT YOUR EVIDENCE?
All sources and methods are described in the Report. Please, read it
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Old 11th December 2015, 01:53 PM   #82
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Thank you for info.

Yes. The Report is written as precise as possible. It is submitted to be published. In is not perfect. But all proofs are well documented (in which media, in which frame, in which testimony, ... ) Try to read it honestly. You can help with the methodology. Fine. Welcome
No, I think I'm done with you. Your work isn't good enough to bother with and if you won't answer basic questions that any "investigator" should expect, it probably means you're just playing around.
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Old 11th December 2015, 01:53 PM   #83
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FYI - the words "False Flag" is actually a Red Flag - warning of impending woo.
Please, explain, I do no understand. Thank you.
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I won't be going to a link on a Russian website to download a zip file, at the request of a conspiracy theorist.
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Old 11th December 2015, 01:56 PM   #85
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I won't be going to a link on a Russian website to download a zip file, at the request of a conspiracy theorist.
Oh, is that what he wanted us to do? I didn't look at the links that hard.
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Old 11th December 2015, 01:58 PM   #86
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Alright, suppose I read the report until I get to something I think is bogus and stop. Will you defend it? Because, if you won't, I don't want to even bother doing that much.
I am waiting for a discussion. There could be some stupid mistakes. Several proofs are conclusions of the other. Keep in mind that investigating and writing Report was not a simple job. I am waiting a similar task with the reviewers...

Until now, all proofs are strong. Some proofs are included just to make a consistent story when some hard evidences are missing. This will be filled during the court investigation.
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I won't be going to a link on a Russian website to download a zip file, at the request of a conspiracy theorist.
You a russcist?!
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I am waiting for a discussion. There could be some stupid mistakes. Several proofs are conclusions of the other. Keep in mind that investigating and writing Report was not a simple job. I am waiting a similar task with the reviewers...

Until now, all proofs are strong. Some proofs are included just to make a consistent story when some hard evidences are missing. This will be filled during the court investigation.
So, why are you so interested in having us open your zip files? The information could just as easily be posted to a website where no one would have to download anything.
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Old 11th December 2015, 02:01 PM   #89
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Originally Posted by Gawdzilla Sama View Post
1. Decide false flag.
2. Decide "new suspects".
3. Produce "evidence.
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5. Profit!
Greetings

Keep in mind that the investigation is long and some help would be great.

Please, break your habit ("I will reply quicker then the others are typing") and support the investigation

And of course, read the Report
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I am waiting for a discussion. There could be some stupid mistakes. Several proofs are conclusions of the other. Keep in mind that investigating and writing Report was not a simple job. I am waiting a similar task with the reviewers...

Until now, all proofs are strong. Some proofs are included just to make a consistent story when some hard evidences are missing. This will be filled during the court investigation.
You think any court is going to open your zip files?
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You think any court is going to open your zip files?
I hope they have kick ass virus protection if they do.
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Old 11th December 2015, 02:05 PM   #92
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I would familiarize yourself with slander, libel and defamation law in Europe. I'm given to understand that it is much easier for one of your suspects to sue for such things in most European countries than in the United States.
The murderers could be from the whole world ...

I hope that at least some forum members will check their friends wrt those photos of murderers. Who knows ...
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Old 11th December 2015, 02:07 PM   #93
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Feel free to use the report button.
Thanks. Maybe the next time
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Old 11th December 2015, 02:16 PM   #94
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The fact you won't answer my question tells me you know your work isn't going to measure up.
Stop for a while and imagine: You have seen a conspiracy of policemen murdering several innocent persons. You know it. Will you visit the crime place with a team? Will you look for eyewitnesses? Maybe you will collect secretly all possible evidences online. The miracle is, that these online proofs are enough
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Feel free to use the report button.
There's a button in The Report? Now I'm interested. What does the button do?
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Old 11th December 2015, 02:22 PM   #96
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Which crime scene was it and what did he do to investigate while he was there?
Jordi Mir's scene - measurement wrt the height was performed.

Do you understand what happened in Paris or not?

Police is checking FB and other media online to get suspects. They murdered (?) H. Fredou who noticed first the False flag proofs. Police visited (?) several forum members (hope that they are still alive) resulting in leaving the forum. Nontrivial search for the author of the Report happened.

And we are talking about who and how many times visited the crime place, ...

Think and read. Thank you.
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Old 11th December 2015, 02:25 PM   #97
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I am waiting for a discussion. There could be some stupid mistakes. Several proofs are conclusions of the other. Keep in mind that investigating and writing Report was not a simple job. I am waiting a similar task with the reviewers...

Until now, all proofs are strong. Some proofs are included just to make a consistent story when some hard evidences are missing. This will be filled during the court investigation.
Thank you. I would be interested in knowing when the review process has been completed. Please keep us updated on that.

In the meanwhile, is there any particularly compelling bit of evidence you would like to present in a standalone fashion? I understand it will not have the weight of the full report, but this forum is pretty good at examining specifics to see how they hold up to scrutiny.

Perhaps there is a glaring flaw in the official story, something you find compelling which doesn't require too much connect-the-dots? If not, that's fine, but if so, I would be interested in seeing such a thing without having to read the entire draft report.
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Jordi Mir's scene - measurement wrt the height was performed.

Do you understand what happened in Paris or not?

Police is checking FB and other media online to get suspects. They murdered (?) H. Fredou who noticed first the False flag proofs. Police visited (?) several forum members (hope that they are still alive) resulting in leaving the forum. Nontrivial search for the author of the Report happened.

And we are talking about who and how many times visited the crime place, ...

Think and read. Thank you.
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Old 11th December 2015, 02:26 PM   #99
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You are here on ISF so make your case here
Done in the OP and the Report and in References.zip.

Imagine Einstein presenting his results at ISF. Would you push him to "make your case here" or would you read the papers by Einstein?

Who knows.
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Old 11th December 2015, 02:29 PM   #100
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No, I think I'm done with you. Your work isn't good enough to bother with and if you won't answer basic questions that any "investigator" should expect, it probably means you're just playing around.
Your choice.
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Old 11th December 2015, 02:32 PM   #101
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Done in the OP and the Report and in References.zip.

Imagine Einstein presenting his results at ISF. Would you push him to "make your case here" or would you read the papers by Einstein?

Who knows.
I doubt he'd be hiding behind "read the report" and would have the competence and confidence to explain his results.
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I won't be going to a link on a Russian website to download a zip file, at the request of a conspiracy theorist.
The US pages were controlled / deleted by kind (?) persons.

The Russia version survived.

The Report and the zip file are at mega.nz, this is not a Russian web.

Yes, you should send a demand mail to a Russian server. This is not dangerous I think.
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Done in the OP and the Report and in References.zip.

Imagine Einstein presenting his results at ISF. Would you push him to "make your case here" or would you read the papers by Einstein?

Who knows.
He didn't use zip files from an RU site.
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Oh, is that what he wanted us to do? I didn't look at the links that hard.
No, the files are at mega.nz (New Zealand).

The application for the References.zip file must be sent to Russian mail. Not dangerous.

Read carefully, please.
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You a russcist?!
No.

The files are at mega.nz (New Zealand).

The application for the References.zip file must be sent to Russian mail. Not dangerous.

Read carefully, please.
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What would Columbo do?
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So, why are you so interested in having us open your zip files? The information could just as easily be posted to a website where no one would have to download anything.
References.zip is about 500 MB

Paris2015.pdf is about 10 MB

The US web was deleted.

I posted the files to New Zealand.

Any problem?
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You think any court is going to open your zip files?
I have sent the links / files to International Criminal Court and nobody had a problem.
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Are you absolutely, 100% sure you don't want us to read the report?
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I hope they have kick ass virus protection if they do.
Talking, talking, not reading ...

You have a link to Paris2015.pdf located at New Zealand.
Have you downloaded it?

The References.zip is available after a demand. Have you sent it?
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There's a button in The Report? Now I'm interested. What does the button do?
The button is in IFS forum at each post available.

The Report in Paris2015.pdf has no button
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...In the meanwhile, is there any particularly compelling bit of evidence you would like to present in a standalone fashion? ...
The shortest proof is this No Shell Proof:

The shooter in the known Jordi Mir's movie forgot to put empty shells / cartridges on the ground. There are no such shells documented. Many videos and photos document it. No shell means no shooting happened.

Moreover, there is a nice interesting progress / modification with this proof ... (details in Paris2015.pdf).

Enjoy :-)

Yes, I will report the progress with the publishing ...
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Cool story, bro. I once pulled a helicopter out of the sky.
Please...
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I doubt he'd be hiding behind "read the report" and would have the competence and confidence to explain his results.
I have presented a sound proof in the above posts. Have you understood / read it?
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I have sent the links / files to International Criminal Court and nobody had a problem.
You have their reply that we could see?
The one in which they intend to charge Mr X or Xs, or MsX
I'm not a sexist.
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He didn't use zip files from an RU site.
Zip file from New Zealand web, not Russian web.
Try to estimate the distance RU - NZ to get the feeling how wrong you could be.
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Are you absolutely, 100% sure you don't want us to read the report?
Such sentences lead Columbo directly to the suspects
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I have presented a sound proof in the above posts. Have you understood / read it?
You have stated a claim, not presented a proof. I am concerned that you appear to be unable to understand the difference between these two things.
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You have their reply that we could see?
...
Unfortunately, their replies are just for the sender and cannot be shared.

Nevertheless, the case with evidences is documented / archived forever. Great

Sadly, but expected, they will not open the case.

Maybe they will do it when new evidences will be collected.
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