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Old Today, 05:51 AM   #1921
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Certainly something of a contrast to his statement on appointing Tillerson:

“among the most accomplished business leaders and international deal makers in the world”

“His tenacity, broad experience and deep understanding of geopolitics make him an excellent choice for secretary of state. He will promote regional stability and focus on the core national security interests of the United States.”
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
How does Trump know what Putin will or won't agree to?
Trump "thinks" he's the one playing Putin.
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Originally Posted by Worm View Post
Certainly something of a contrast to his statement on appointing Tillerson:

“among the most accomplished business leaders and international deal makers in the world”

“His tenacity, broad experience and deep understanding of geopolitics make him an excellent choice for secretary of state. He will promote regional stability and focus on the core national security interests of the United States.”
That was before he found out he was as dumb as a rock.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

Rex Tillerson, a man who is ďdumb as a rockĒ and totally ill prepared and ill equipped to be Secretary of State, made up a story (he got fired) that I was out-prepared by Vladimir Putin at a meeting in Hamburg, Germany. I donít think Putin would agree. Look how the U.S. is doing!
"Da. I vill agree det Comrade, I mean President, Trump vas wery, wery, prepared for our meetink. Heh, heh, heh."
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If you want to understand the whole Deutsche Bank thing, the latest two podcasts from The Daily and Trump, Inc both do a deep dive and help explain a lot. Thought quite a bit of overlap.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

Rex Tillerson, a man who is “dumb as a rock” and totally ill prepared and ill equipped to be Secretary of State, made up a story (he got fired) that I was out-prepared by Vladimir Putin at a meeting in Hamburg, Germany. I don’t think Putin would agree. Look how the U.S. is doing!

'Tillerson says i have the worst apples, but look at this awesome orange! Putin, tell them how great my orange is.'

Americans... look what thou hath wrought. Please unwrought this. It's not like he's going to suddenly stop tweeting once he's no longer president, so we'll still be able to sit and shake our heads at him most days as we slowly wean ourselves off watching this daily train wreck, but at least we won't have to worry about one of the cars veering loose and crashing into us bystanders.

As it is I'm not convinced that the orange he's so proud of is growing from a tree planted in the kind of soil it needs.
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Originally Posted by TofuFighter View Post

'Tillerson says i have the worst apples, but look at this awesome orange! Putin, tell them how great my orange is.'

Americans... look what thou hath wrought. Please unwrought this. It's not like he's going to suddenly stop tweeting once he's no longer president, so we'll still be able to sit and shake our heads at him most days as we slowly wean ourselves off watching this daily train wreck, but at least we won't have to worry about one of the cars veering loose and crashing into us bystanders.

As it is I'm not convinced that the orange he's so proud of is growing from a tree planted in the kind of soil it needs.
I think worrying about the cars veering off is the main draw. Once that's off the table, your enthusiasm for Trump will evaporate. A month after he leaves office, you'll be struggling to remember why you ever bothered to follow his tweets at all.
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I do wonder if at times an Id driven President in the modern social media age is just one of those things were were going to have to deal with sooner or later.
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Well, it looks like at least 2 banks have turned over their trump-related records to congress.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/23/well...-congress.html
A key congressional committee has already gained access to President Donald Trump’s dealings with two major financial institutions...Wells Fargo and TD Bank are the two of nine institutions that have so far complied with subpoenas issued by the House Financial Services Committee demanding information about their dealings with the Trump Organization...

Not really sure how relevant those records will be. (Trump's dealings with Deutsche seem to take center stage.) But maybe Trump dealt with them before all his bankruptcies made him persona non grata for North American banks. Or maybe they have evidence that he tried to scam them before switching to Deutsche bank.
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Originally Posted by eeyore1954 View Post
I donít see that this changed at all under Trump. I think the only thing he did was change the makeup of the court.
Oh? Was Kennedy a stalwart partisan because he was nominated by Reagan?
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
I think worrying about the cars veering off is the main draw. Once that's off the table, your enthusiasm for Trump will evaporate. A month after he leaves office, you'll be struggling to remember why you ever bothered to follow his tweets at all.
...yes, once this idiot no longer has the power to do stupid things, no one will care what stupid things he says. People care about the stupid things he says because he can and does do really stupid things.

And, FWIW, the stupid things Trump tweets will likely be his legacy; a warning to future voters that when people say Trump-like stupid things, you shouldn't allow them anywhere near an elected office. At least, until he's so far in the past that people forget history and it repeats itself.
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...yes, once this idiot no longer has the power to do stupid things, no one will care what stupid things he says. People care about the stupid things he says because he can and does do really stupid things.

And, FWIW, the stupid things Trump tweets will likely be his legacy; a warning to future voters that when people say Trump-like stupid things, you shouldn't allow them anywhere near an elected office. At least, until he's so far in the past that people forget history and it repeats itself.
It won't have to be the distant past. His current supporters forget what Trump said or did yesterday. We have some of them on this forum arguing that Trump didn't say things that we have video of him saying.
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Its precious listening to Trump saying that Tillerson is dumb. He's so stupid that he can't even spell IQ.
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Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
Its precious listening to Trump saying that Tillerson is dumb. He's so stupid that he can't even spell IQ.
He can't pronounce ogirins* origins, either.





*: I really did muck up the spelling on the first try and I thought the irony was good enough to leave it there.
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Q: Who would have thought that being President could be so complicated?

A: everyone who didn't vote for Trump.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Q: Who would have thought that being President could be so complicated?

A: everyone who didn't vote for Trump.
Actually, I think Trump has proved that being President really is that simple.

Being a good or effective President, on the other hand...
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...yes, once this idiot no longer has the power to do stupid things, no one will care what stupid things he says. People care about the stupid things he says because he can and does do really stupid things.
What would you say is the really stupidest thing Trump has done while in office?
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Q: Who would have thought that being President could be so complicated?

A: everyone who didn't vote for Trump.
I'm pretty sure a major cause of TDS is all the people who thought that getting the president they wanted was a simple as: nominate Hillary. Confronted with the complexity and nuance of what actually happens, they're trying to reduce it back down to something simple that they can wrap their minds around: Orange Man Bad.
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What would you say is the really stupidest thing Trump has done while in office?
For him personally:
Fire Comey the way he did.

For the US:
Pull out of the Iran deal
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The only TDS is the delusion that Trump is actually doing any work as President.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
For the US:
Pull out of the Iran deal
I'd put that at number 3 with pulling out of the Paris Climate Agreement and slapping tariffs on all and sundry without having the slightest understanding of how they work at 1 and 2.
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I'd put that at number 3 with pulling out of the Paris Climate Agreement and slapping tariffs on all and sundry without having the slightest understanding of how they work at 1 and 2.
Those are far easier to reverse, but the US has permanently lost all credibility for negotiating with ascending nuclear powers.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
For him personally:
Fire Comey the way he did.

For the US:
Pull out of the Iran deal
More for him personally:
  • Pushing for a repeal of the ACA with no plan to replace it
  • Waging his war on the American press
  • Waging his war on the US Intelligence community, in favor of what Putin tells him.

More for the US list:
  • Distancing the US from our long-time allies
  • Removing sanctions on Russia and Russian oligarchs
  • His tax cuts aimed primarily at the super rich
  • Taking no steps to protect the US election system from Russian influence

In no particular order nor complete in any way. They're all stupid in different ways. Which is the most stupid? *shrug* Take your pick.
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I'd put that at number 3 with pulling out of the Paris Climate Agreement and slapping tariffs on all and sundry without having the slightest understanding of how they work at 1 and 2.
Ah, I forgot his tariff war. So much stupidity, it's hard to keep straight.
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Trump keeps proving that he is incompetent squared. His unwillingness to do his job makes him the most incapacitated President since Woodrow Wilson after the stroke.
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Trump keeps proving that he is incompetent squared. His unwillingness to do his job makes him the most incapacitated President since Woodrow Wilson after the stroke.
He's fractally stupid.
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Not hardening US election systems is very bad for the country, but it is very good for him.
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It's true though. I bet none of his ancestors were legal immigrants to the US.
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"Trump is soooooo incompetent!"
"Trump is da stoopid!"
"Trump is the least effective, dumbest President evaaaar!"
"Trump can't do anything LOLZ"

THEN WHY THE **** IS HE WINNING?

The Democrats are talking about how the person they just had the big bout with is the worst boxer that's ever existed and couldn't beat a fly on his best day... but they are the ones on the mat looking up at the ceiling.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
"Trump is soooooo incompetent!"
"Trump is da stoopid!"
"Trump is the least effective, dumbest President evaaaar!"
"Trump can't do anything LOLZ"

THEN WHY THE **** IS HE WINNING?
Except none of those things are mutually-exclusive.

And what's he winning, exactly, aside from the presidency itself?
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Except none of those things are mutually-exclusive.

And what's he winning, exactly, aside from the presidency itself?
2, probably 3 before he's out of office Supreme Court Justices.

Literally... everything he's wanted he's gotten.

The Presidency itself since that's not like some small little side hustle.
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2, probably 3 before he's out of office Supreme Court Justices.
That automatically comes with the job, so it's not aside from it. Was there ever any doubt that regardless of who the President was, the GOP would get some pretty hard-line SCOTUS judges?

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Literally... everything he's wanted he's gotten.
Again, like what? Aside from one tax cut he's pretty much done nothing major.
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What would you say is the really stupidest thing Trump has done while in office?
There is so much to choose from. His whiney little bitch act he pulled yesterday was pretty stupid.

Remember, Trump was going to be the '"infrastructure President". Please, please tell me what Trump has done for infrastructure since taking office? I bet he can't spell "infrastructure" He was also supposedly a great deal maker. What deals has Trump negotiated?

You keep defending this turd. I keep wondering why? Do you really think he's making this country better?
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
"Trump is soooooo incompetent!"
"Trump is da stoopid!"
...
THEN WHY THE **** IS HE WINNING?
For the same reason that Forest Gump "Won".

I've said it before... I think Trump is a forest-gump like character, who has found success not because he's intelligent or particularly skilled, but simply due of luck.

- He was born into a wealthy family; that provided both money and financial contacts early in his life. If he was born into a middle-class family, he would not be "rich" (if he actually is rich), he'd be working at McDonalds, asking people "would you like a large fries with that? They're YUGE!".

- The republican nomination was won due to the "clown-car" nature of the primaries. (Having so many candidates meant that he could win a primary despite having far less than a majority of votes)

- The election was won due to a combination of Russian interference, the nature of the electoral college, and the Republicans and Fox News effectively demonizing Clinton. Had any of those factors been different he would likely not be president.
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