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2nd April 2014, 06:00 AM | #1 |
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Obamacare supporters all want exemptions for themselves
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2nd April 2014, 06:26 AM | #3 |
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Just to save people the bother, I skimmed the list entitled "Here are 271 reasons why hypocrite politicians and unions that support Obamacare want exemptions for themselves". Here are some excerpts:
At my count, of the 271 reasons why supporters want exemptions for themselves, only 12 were on the topic of exemptions. At least two of those that I noticed were duplicates of the same group or situation. This is a fairly incoherent, babbling rant. |
2nd April 2014, 06:40 AM | #4 |
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2nd April 2014, 06:50 AM | #6 |
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2nd April 2014, 07:01 AM | #7 |
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http://www.factcheck.org/2013/05/con...rom-obamacare/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-other-groups/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...alth-care-law/ http://www.salon.com/2013/08/20/the_...y_its_own_lie/ http://www.poynter.org/how-tos/newsg...alth-care-law/ In short, Icebear, you shouldn't get all your info from right-wing websites. |
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2nd April 2014, 09:00 AM | #9 |
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2nd April 2014, 09:22 AM | #10 |
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I need no exemption. My insurance is the same or better than it was in 2009. BTW, icebear? Trolls post on DU a lot. They pretend to be Democrats so they can stir up stuff. What is YOUR screen name there, BTW?
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2nd April 2014, 12:09 PM | #11 |
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2nd April 2014, 12:56 PM | #12 |
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2nd April 2014, 01:57 PM | #13 |
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I have insurance for the first time in more than a decade and even opted for a plan that was more than the credit i get from the aca
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2nd April 2014, 02:00 PM | #14 |
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2nd April 2014, 02:12 PM | #15 |
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How much is the Democratic Party paying you to post this stuff?
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2nd April 2014, 03:26 PM | #16 |
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2nd April 2014, 03:31 PM | #17 |
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When does the level of trolling we see in the OP become outright fraud, I wonder.
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2nd April 2014, 09:43 PM | #18 |
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2nd April 2014, 10:08 PM | #19 |
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Exemptions for what? The fine for not having healthcare?
A majority of those can be summed up by "Too poor to buy it." No one wants to be poor. |
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2nd April 2014, 11:15 PM | #20 |
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For those that are actually poor, there are already subsidies/public care options which fulfill the ACA requirements, so there would not be a fine. If you are talking about people making $24k/year who feel like they can't make a $130/month payment for minimal coverage health insurance plan, they can't afford to not have that coverage, but if they'd rather pay the fine and be without coverage, that is their choice to make. In most states, Medicaid programs and/or county health programs will fully cover those who earn up to just shy of 140% poverty level (~ $16k/year) ACA subsidies kick in (depending upon circumstances) at incomes below 400% poverty level (~$44k/year), above that, it simply isn't proper to frame the issue as "too poor to buy it."
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3rd April 2014, 12:11 AM | #21 |
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I am a student with no income and just got into my state's medicaid for its coverage and once my school starts I will move onto their healthplan. Being a no-income person I dare say it's hard to rationalize "too poor to buy" if at least you get enrolled into Medicaid.
I also know that the transition from previous plans to ACA approved plans have definitely upset a lot of people since many previous plans were noncompliant beforehand. Moving to a new plan with a new network can be upsetting. |
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3rd April 2014, 12:59 AM | #22 |
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The act of breaking a habitual behavior/mode of thinking is often a disconcerting process. Developing a habit is becoming comfortable with a way of acting/thinking, it is a pattern that we can follow automatically without undue conscious attention. Imagine how much more difficult each day would be if you had to focus on everything that you do as if it were the first time you were doing it, each time you do it. Doesn't leave a lot of room for reflective abstractions that are the hallmark of what most consider the essence of human, self-aware, intelligence.
ooops, "Obamacare Bad!, ACA Good!" Its a good thing the Republicans got rid of obamacare and it got replaced with the ACA and all those State health care plans! Now we can get a Clinton back in the whitehouse and go back to partying the way we did in the '90s, before that idiot from CT drove the nation into a ditch on a drunken binge!! |
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3rd April 2014, 09:45 AM | #23 |
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I find it hard to take this seriously when IceBeer is calling it Obamacare, everyone knows the ACA is called Obummercare.
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