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Old Today, 10:38 AM   #4561
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Originally Posted by Gaetan View Post
Just look at what Mr Sanders want to do: He said in his program he wants to abolish student's debts (free of charge school) that will permit more student to achieve education necessary for the advance of the society, and also he wants free health care this will also be an advance in the well being of the population.
You do understand that "free" education and health care aren''t free, right?

You also understand that we must abolish religion because of the evils it perpetrates on society? The evils that you want to pretend don't exist.

Those are real, Gaetan. Djinns and gods and fairies and Satan aren't real.
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Old Today, 10:38 AM   #4562
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Second, universal health care isn't "free health care", it still has to be paid for, just like all that "student's debt".
Free stuff as health care and education is paid by work of you and neighbour, that's what i propose.
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Old Today, 10:40 AM   #4563
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Originally Posted by Gaetan View Post
Free stuff as health care and education is paid by work of you and neighbour, that's what i propose.
I'm all for universal health care and education. Once we abolish religion, we'll be able to put our money towards those.


Would you be in favor of abolishing religion and replacing it with free health care and education?
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Originally Posted by RoboTimbo View Post

You also understand that we must abolish religion because of the evils it perpetrates on society? The evils that you want to pretend don't exist.
Your right because religion brought money in the society, not Jesus but your religion.
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Old Today, 11:05 AM   #4565
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Originally Posted by Gaetan View Post
Your right because religion brought money in the society, not Jesus
And yet your Jesus character said "the laborer deserves his wages". Why do you call the Jesus character from your novel a liar?

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but your religion.
??? I'm not sure what nonsense you're spouting here. Is it just more Gaetan religious lying and hypocrisy? Trying to draw attention away from your weird religion and how the religious abuse children?

I notice you religiously do that a lot.
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Originally Posted by RoboTimbo View Post
And yet your Jesus character said "the laborer deserves his wages". Why do you call the Jesus character from your novel a liar?


??? I'm not sure what nonsense you're spouting here. Is it just more Gaetan religious lying and hypocrisy? Trying to draw attention away from your weird religion and how the religious abuse children?

I notice you religiously do that a lot.
Jesus teach the gift economy and forgiving, and religion is responsible to have done the opposite, religion brought the system you like then you can't say you don't like religion, that's the system you want and like.
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Originally Posted by Gaetan View Post
Free stuff as health care and education is paid by work of you and neighbour, that's what i propose.
That is already what happens and has done for decades. Got anything new to offer?
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Originally Posted by Gaetan View Post
Jesus teach the gift economy and forgiving, and religion is responsible to have done the opposite, religion brought the system you like then you can't say you don't like religion, that's the system you want and like.
More of your religious hypocrisy. You gleefully use money yourself but want everyone else to give theirs up. This is just more of your weird religion.

So how much do the religious make for abusing children? Do you think it's a crime for the religious to abuse children?
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Your right because religion brought money in the society, not Jesus but your religion.
What? I have no superstitious religion. I don't believe in any stupid god. What is this to do with me?
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Originally Posted by Gaetan View Post
Jesus teach the gift economy and forgiving,
Not what the bible says

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and religion is responsible to have done the opposite,
Great, then you agree we should abolish religion and all that bible thumping to make the world a better place. I agree.

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religion brought the system you like
Nope. I think we should dispose of religion altogether to make this world a better place. YOU are the only one here promoting religion.
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then you can't say you don't like religion, that's the system you want and like.
No it isn't. Have you simply not been paying attention?
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More of your religious hypocrisy. You gleefully use money yourself but want everyone else to give theirs up. This is just more of your weird religion.

So how much do the religious make for abusing children? Do you think it's a crime for the religious to abuse children?
You are the hypocrite because you say you don't like religion but religion brought what you like, the money and the justice system.
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Originally Posted by Gaetan View Post
You are the hypocrite because you say you don't like religion but religion brought what you like, the money and the justice system.
Why do you religiously just make stuff up? It just makes everyone see what a hypocrite you are and how evil religion is.

Why don't you answer the questions about your hypocrisy in continuing to use money and how evil religion is by allowing the religious to abuse children? Why don't you speak out against that?

Do you believe that the religious abusing children is evil, Gaetan? Do you think it's criminal?
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Why do you religiously just make stuff up? It just makes everyone see what a hypocrite you are and how evil religion is.

Why don't you answer the questions about your hypocrisy in continuing to use money and how evil religion is by allowing the religious to abuse children? Why don't you speak out against that?

Do you believe that the religious abusing children is evil, Gaetan? Do you think it's criminal?
That's the religion that brought the system of money we live and you like then you are the hypocrite.
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That's the religion that brought the system of money we live and you like then you are the hypocrite.
Except I'm not religious and you are. Do you also believe that black is white? That is one weird religion you have there.

Now, about all those questions you keep trying to deflect from:

1. How much do the religous make per child for abusing them?
2. Do you think it's criminal for the religious to abuse children?
3. Why do you not find fault with the religious who abuse children?
4. Why do you call your Jesus character a liar when he says, "the laborer deserves his wages"?
5. Would you be in favor of abolishing all religion starting with yours in return for free health care and education?
6. We'll get to some other questions soon so don't dishonestly and religiously ignore these.
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Originally Posted by Gaetan View Post
Free stuff as health care and education is paid by work of you and neighbour, that's what i propose.
And that is already happening. Taxation. Something that can't exist in your world. Because that would place a value on work, which is what money does, and thus you couldn't take equitably from two people.

So your propose solution is to take a relative straightforward system that has some attempts at equity, and remove that for a wildly inequitable system where people take whatever resources they want without any responsibility to put more into the system than they take out. But let's just continue to your work-hour deficit, right?
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Except I'm not religious and you are. Do you also believe that black is white? That is one weird religion you have there.

Now, about all those questions you keep trying to deflect from:

1. How much do the religous make per child for abusing them?
2. Do you think it's criminal for the religious to abuse children?
3. Why do you not find fault with the religious who abuse children?
4. Why do you call your Jesus character a liar when he says, "the laborer deserves his wages"?
5. Would you be in favor of abolishing all religion starting with yours in return for free health care and education?
6. We'll get to some other questions soon so don't dishonestly and religiously ignore these.
You are an hypocrite because the religion put the base of the money system and the way you like to live, with money, your culture of money comes from religion, that's what the history says.

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You are an hypocrite because the religion put the base of the money system and the way you like to live, with money, your culture of money comes from religion, that's what the history says.
Do you just make stuff up out of habit because you're religious? Nobody believes a word you say.

Answer the questions above and stop dishonestly and religiously avoiding them.
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Do you just make stuff up out of habit because you're religious? Nobody believes a word you say.

Answer the questions above and stop dishonestly and religiously avoiding them.
Religion put on place the money satanic system:

The modern American nickel retains only a vestige of the original notion in the words "In God We Trust" now relegated to the rim, as the image of a president in the center reflects control of the monetary system by the temporal government.

https://www.theosophical.org/publica...-magazine/3405

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Originally Posted by Gaetan View Post
The modern American nickel retains only a vestige of the original notion in the words "In God We Trust" now relegated to the rim, as the image of a president in the center reflects control of the monetary system by the temporal government.

https://www.theosophical.org/publica...-magazine/3405
How much coin do the religious get for raping children? Do they get paid per child or is it part of their regular salary? It looks like religion has even bullied its way onto our money. Typical of the hypocritical and crime infested religious.

We must absolutely abolish all religions, especially Gaetan's.
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Originally Posted by Gaetan View Post
Religion put on place the money satanic system:

The modern American nickel retains only a vestige of the original notion in the words "In God We Trust" now relegated to the rim, as the image of a president in the center reflects control of the monetary system by the temporal government.

https://www.theosophical.org/publica...-magazine/3405
Not on my money. Are you really so nuts that you think there is only America?
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Free stuff as health care and education is paid by work of you and neighbour, that's what i propose.
Once again, then it is not free. As usual what you "propose" is simply self contradictory. Once again no one can even possibly agree with you until you can at least just agree with yourself.

Also you were talking about "what Mr Sanders want to do:" not what you "propose".
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Originally Posted by Gaetan View Post
Religion put on place the money satanic system:

The modern American nickel retains only a vestige of the original notion in the words "In God We Trust" now relegated to the rim, as the image of a president in the center reflects control of the monetary system by the temporal government.

https://www.theosophical.org/publica...-magazine/3405
Not on my money. Are you really so nuts that you think there is only America?

Heck, it didn't even appear on U.S. currency until 1864.
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You are an hypocrite because the religion put the base of the money system and the way you like to live, with money, your culture of money comes from religion, that's what the history says.
A hypocrite is someone who says one thing but does another. Like, for example, who preaches we should all not use money while using it himself. Or, even worse, steadfastly refuses to give up using money due to personal inconvience while preaching we should all do what he, himself, will not do what he preaches.
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The 25 wealthiest dynasties on the planet control $1.4 trillion

August 10, 2019


The numbers are mind-boggling: $70,000 per minute, $4 million per hour, $100 million per day.

That’s how quickly the fortune of the Waltons, the clan behind Walmart Inc., has been growing since last year’s Bloomberg ranking of the world’s richest families.

At that rate, their wealth would’ve expanded about $23,000 since you began reading this. A new Walmart associate in the U.S. would’ve made about 6 cents in that time, on the way to an $11 hourly minimum.

Even in this era of extreme wealth and brutal inequality, the contrast is jarring. The heirs of Sam Walton, Walmart’s notoriously frugal founder, are amassing wealth on a near-unprecedented scale — and they’re hardly alone.

The Walton fortune has swelled by $39 billion, to $191 billion, since topping the June 2018 ranking of the world’s richest families.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/r...-in-the-world/
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Trump Administration to allow discrimination against LGBTQ who don't share their employers' weird religious beliefs.

The Trump administration caused an uproar Wednesday for proposing a policy that would give certain federal contractors the right to discriminate against people who don’t share their employer’s religious views.

“Unconscionable,” “shameless,” and “dangerous” were just a few of the reactions from lawmakers and civil rights advocates over the religious-exemption rule that seemed, in particular, to target LGBTQ employees. Patricia Shiu, who oversaw the federal contracting office under President Barack Obama, described it to Vox as shocking.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/...imination-rule

Just more of weird religions abusing people. We must abolish religion before it destroys civilization.
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Weird Religious Beliefs Result in Children Dying

Children sometimes die or become disabled when they fail to receive medical treatment because of the strongly held religious or philosophical beliefs or practices of their parents.

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/81/1/169

All weird religions must be abolished. But the religious circle the wagons by lying and being hypocritical.
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Religion and Child Abuse - Perfect Together

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1386828...n_tab_contents
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Originally Posted by Gaetan View Post
The 25 wealthiest dynasties on the planet control $1.4 trillion

August 10, 2019


The numbers are mind-boggling: $70,000 per minute, $4 million per hour, $100 million per day.

That’s how quickly the fortune of the Waltons, the clan behind Walmart Inc., has been growing since last year’s Bloomberg ranking of the world’s richest families.

At that rate, their wealth would’ve expanded about $23,000 since you began reading this. A new Walmart associate in the U.S. would’ve made about 6 cents in that time, on the way to an $11 hourly minimum.

Even in this era of extreme wealth and brutal inequality, the contrast is jarring. The heirs of Sam Walton, Walmart’s notoriously frugal founder, are amassing wealth on a near-unprecedented scale — and they’re hardly alone.

The Walton fortune has swelled by $39 billion, to $191 billion, since topping the June 2018 ranking of the world’s richest families.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/r...-in-the-world/
You really neither read nor care about any responses given, do you? You simply pretend they are not there in blind pursuit of your oblivious inhuman goal. Hell, you won't read this one because you simply don't care.
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Free stuff as health care and education is paid by work of you and neighbour, that's what i propose.
Free work .. paid?

Then it's not free. Your model fails. Again.
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