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I was looking up resources that might be of use to the folks in this thread and I found something I think Bjarne can tackle AND possibly use it to test his theories. It's simple instructions for a rig to, well, I'll let the text speak for itself:
Testing the Speed-of-Light Conspiracy
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I like the one where you measure the speed of light with chocolate and a microwave
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Real science has no brainwashing - it is real and well tested and anyone who can legitimately show otherwise will certainly find employment and acceptance in the scientific world. You tend to make your way best only by proving your abilities and knowledge. Observation is how real science starts, followed by thorough experimentation and checks by others in the field. It also helps if you were in a graduate level program with a lead who was very well established in the field. If not, you have no chance of being /having your beliefs accepted because you lack the background and experimental experience - and the access to materials and needed expertise to assist your appropriate doctorate or two in a field related to this discussion, feel free to prove same. If not, do not expect to have your claims accepted!!! |
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Toot rue!!!!!
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New Findings Muddy Understanding Of Dark Matter
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"However, "if you look at high-precision measurements of the large-scale structure of the universe and how the cosmos has evolved to the present day, the entire picture of cosmology all hangs together much better with dark matter than with MOND," Loeb said. "It gives us confidence that Einstein's theory of gravity works, and that nothing unusual like MOND is needed.""
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Is this about your delusions for the Galileo satellites? No
![]() Is this about your delusions for the ISS experiment that you still are ignorant about? No ![]() Does it have anything to do with SR or GR being wrong? Not at all ![]() This is an "old" (5 weeks!) article about the The Radial Acceleration Relation in Rotationally Supported Galaxies paper. Stacy McGaugh is an advocate of modified GR as an explanation for dark matter. IOW GR is right but needs a tweak to explain the observations for dark matter. This empirical relation was a problem for 20 year old simulations of dark matter in galaxies. But what if we run a modern simulation that includes more understanding of galaxy dynamics? The first results are that galaxies + dark matter also follow this relationship: Physicists Beat Yet Another Challenge To Dark Matter's Existence Not quite "beaten" because the simulation in La Fin du MOND? Λ CDM is Fully Consistent with SPARC Acceleration Law is for a small sample of galaxies with a much smaller range of masses. |
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Oh don't worry, this thread will rise again before the end of 2017 when relativity begins to fall apart.
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Damn, and it's too late to correct the error in my post. Apparently "Lich" is also a valid spelling.
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Why is the validity of the arguments not enough to accept an idea?
Why do you have to be member of a (scientific) community and follow its protocols, to prove your point? Being right has everything to do with true premisses, valid logical reasoning and therefore true conclusion. To follow a protocol dictated by a scientific community is not a crucial criterium to have a good theory to explain the facts. Being part of the social network, called 'the scientific community' and follow its strict procedures can limit your freedom to think a problem through on your own terms. |
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spacetime exists 'outthere'. It's all events together. We, minds, experience moment by moment the unfolding of events. But that's not how the phenomena exist outthere. In spacetime all events already exist simultaniously in past, present and future.(Einstein) Only the interaction with a mind, establishes the experience of the unfolding of these events, moment by moment. |
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You did not quite understand what was written, Maartenn100.
"Real science is not brainwashing" means that real science includes teaching people how to think for themselves so that they can evaluate the arguments and evidence for themselves. People who can show that the evidence for science is wrong "will certainly find employment and acceptance in the scientific world" because testing theories to see if they are wrong is a fundamental part of science. This is what Internet physics cranks cannot do. There are no overall "strict procedures" for the scientific community. There are accepted standards, e.g. a paper published in a high impact, peer reviewed journal is probably valid. There are standards for writing scientific papers. |
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I finally have the proof that relativity is falling apart. I drive quite a bit for work and sometimes I drive fast and change elevation as there are hills. On Monday November 7th, the clock in my car was fully one hour ahead of my home computer's clock. Now, I know I wasn't driving that fast. Case closed.
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So what happens when the Theory of Relativity fails? Should I dig a bomb shelter and buy supplies from "mypatriotsupply.com"?
http://www.mypatriotsupply.com/Emerg...Food_s/104.htm Not only do you get delicious pantry products but you get an unending supply of tin foil. Just the way to survive the upcoming physics collapse. I just wish Bjarne would nail down the date a bit better. Is it 2016 or 2017? The construction Forman wants to know. |
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The theory of relativity cannot fail. The phenomenon it describes have been objectively proved to exist. ... There might be a theory that explains them even better, but reality will stay ... reality. Only our understanding will change.
As for the stuff there, well ... Before you purchase a year's worth of supplies, check that your shelter's toilet capacity matches it. Otherwise you will be in ... deep ****. Hans |
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The one experiment that we have details about (ISS Utilization: ACES (Atomic Clock Ensemble in Space) / PHARAO) makes the thread title ignorant. ACES will launch in August 2017. There will be 6 months of calibration bringing us to February 2018. Then at least a year of data gathering - February 2019. Add a few months to write papers and the earliest we can expect results is the middle of 2019 and it may be 2010.
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Go on and keep denying fantasy and see what will happen.
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Well, it has to be kept 'alive' for a bit, only 11 more months.
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I've just kicked the tyres and ran it around the block, seems fine to me.
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That's "tires," dammit!
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Don't labour too hard, I hope you find safe harbour!
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