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Old 12th June 2018, 01:25 PM   #241
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Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
I’m still not claiming that the absense of said bank endorsing stamps is proof of forgery.
So the below is a false claim? Or is the above the false claim?

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The Hidell PMO that have no bank endorsement stamps that according to the federal regulations should be present = forgery ...
You need to make up your mind.

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Old 12th June 2018, 01:27 PM   #242
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Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
This makes me even more determined to list all your ”debunkings” one by one and comprehensively refute them i one single post.

After this it’s going to be easy to reute future false statements in line with what you have produced here and elsewhere. One klick away.

At your service.
You've had a couple hundred posts already. What's one more.

Be sure to address every single independent study, including the following:

http://jfk-records.com/ScienceAndJus...%282005%29.pdf

https://fas.org/rlg/RL9b02_WithFigNu...geFigures).pdf

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/odell/

https://web.archive.org/web/20080919...99/courttv.htm

http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/download/report_hi.zip

http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/download/QT-Exhibits.zip

Be sure to indicate why you find the analysis of Donald Thomas superior to the analysis of each of the authors of the studies linked here. Cite each criticism of Thomas's work from Ralph Linsker, Richard Garwin, Herman Chernoff, Paul Horowitz, and Norman Ramsey and indicate why you find it is without merit.

Cite, explain, argue.

Make sure you address the testimony of HB McLain and Marion Baker, and the supplementary photographic evidence that appears to back up McLain's statements as to where he was at the time of the shooting.

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/jfk...5/hscamcla.htm

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/baker_m1.htm

Also be sure to provide indisputable proof that McLain was in fact where he needs to be for your analysis to hold water.

Finally, for the cheap seats, try to explain why the visual record, the statements of McLain and Baker and the analysis of a half a dozen different teams of qualified professionals all seems to paint a single, coherent, compelling picture while Don Thomas stands alone with a completely divergent opinion.

Cite, explain, argue

I think the information here is more than enough for any curious person to come to an informed decision.

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Old 12th June 2018, 01:27 PM   #243
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How dare you use his own words against him. Disgusting, by that I mean hilarious.
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Old 12th June 2018, 01:28 PM   #244
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Originally Posted by HSienzant View Post
So the below is a false claim? Or is the above the false claim?



You need to make up your mind.

Hank
Perhaps this is evidence that the evil conspiracy is hacking into his ISF account to make him look foolish?
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Old 12th June 2018, 01:32 PM   #245
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Originally Posted by HSienzant View Post
So the below is a false claim? Or is the above the false claim?
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Old 12th June 2018, 01:45 PM   #246
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Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
This makes me even more determined to list all your ”debunkings” one by one and comprehensively refute them i one single post.
So far, you haven't been able to refute even one of the debunkings with 100 posts.

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After this it’s going to be easy to reute future false statements in line with what you have produced here and elsewhere. One klick away.
It certainly has been easy to refute false statements. And you have been powerless to stop it.

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At your service.
As you wish.
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Old 12th June 2018, 01:50 PM   #247
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Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
Take your time, ”smartcooky”, I can wait for Axxmans ”point”.

If there is any, that is. Probably not.
I posted a link on the previous page but you missed it while you were blowing smoke.

Here are links to official documents wherein RFK is being briefed on operations in Cuba:

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nsa/cuba_...ney%20Gen..pdf

This is the infamous "Northwinds" document, which would have been reviewed by the Kennedy NSC:

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nsa/cuba_...0of%20Ops..pdf

This is the 25, July, 1962 review of Mongoose. Scroll to the bottom you will see that RFK is on the CC list, or to use CT language, "In on it":

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nsa/cuba_...20Mongoose.pdf

This is the minutes of a 4, October, 1962 meeting of the Cuban Group where RFK opens the meeting saying that a "Higher Authority" (meaning JFK) was not happy with the recent progress, and wanted to step up activity (sabotage operations in Cuba):

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nsa/cuba_...%20Special.pdf

Then this is the meeting where "Fracturing the Regime" is discussed with RFK . Fracturing the Regime is a polite way of saying assassination:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc....Id=21&tab=page

It's even on the Mary Ferrell site, so you know it has to be true (in your world)

Sorry dude, the Kennedy brothers were going after Castro in a hard way.
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Old 12th June 2018, 01:50 PM   #248
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Originally Posted by HSienzant View Post
So the below is a false claim? Or is the above the false claim?



You need to make up your mind.

Hank
I do not claim this from the absense of bank endorsment stamps alone. I’m in the middle of an argument of how common it would be for PMO’s being duly processed without said stamps on it. If common = no sign of fake. If not common or never = sign of fake.

One step at a time, Hank.
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Old 12th June 2018, 01:55 PM   #249
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Originally Posted by traxy View Post
You've had a couple hundred posts already. What's one more.

Be sure to address every single independent study, including the following:

http://jfk-records.com/ScienceAndJus...%282005%29.pdf

https://fas.org/rlg/RL9b02_WithFigNu...geFigures).pdf

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/odell/

https://web.archive.org/web/20080919...99/courttv.htm

http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/download/report_hi.zip

http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/download/QT-Exhibits.zip

Be sure to indicate why you find the analysis of Donald Thomas superior to the analysis of each of the authors of the studies linked here. Cite each criticism of Thomas's work from Ralph Linsker, Richard Garwin, Herman Chernoff, Paul Horowitz, and Norman Ramsey and indicate why you find it is without merit.

Cite, explain, argue.

Make sure you address the testimony of HB McLain and Marion Baker, and the supplementary photographic evidence that appears to back up McLain's statements as to where he was at the time of the shooting.

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/jfk...5/hscamcla.htm

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/baker_m1.htm

Also be sure to provide indisputable proof that McLain was in fact where he needs to be for your analysis to hold water.

Finally, for the cheap seats, try to explain why the visual record, the statements of McLain and Baker and the analysis of a half a dozen different teams of qualified professionals all seems to paint a single, coherent, compelling picture while Don Thomas stands alone with a completely divergent opinion.

Cite, explain, argue

I think the information here is more than enough for any curious person to come to an informed decision.
I just told you that this is exactly what needs to be compiled in one post (thread of its own?) for ease of access and here you are demanding that I do what I’ve just stated had to be done?

Are you at all reading what I’m posting, Traxy?

Why not?

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Old 12th June 2018, 01:56 PM   #250
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The easier CT route is to claim the CIA put Oswald up to the killing. That way you don't have to look stupid trying to prove all of these cover-up claims.
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Old 12th June 2018, 02:03 PM   #251
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Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
I do not claim this from the absense of bank endorsment stamps alone. I’m in the middle of an argument of how common it would be for PMO’s being duly processed without said stamps on it. If common = no sign of fake. If not common or never = sign of fake.
Very common. I can't speak for the American banking system but I can speak for ours which is not too different; we have similar banking regulations.

When I first started in business I used to bank a lot of money orders, and we got the documents back after a few months. About 1 in 10-20 (5 to 10%) would not have any bank stamps on them at all. Of course, they ALL had my business' endorsement stamp on them because I stamped it on myself.
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Old 12th June 2018, 02:05 PM   #252
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So tell us Manifesto what is the answer then?

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I’m still not claiming that the absense of said bank endorsing stamps is proof of forgery.

Originally Posted by manifesto View Post

no bank endorsement stamps that according to the federal regulations should be present = forgery
Do you even know what your opinion is? Are you controlled by CIA brain squirrels?

Let me guess you are going to go into 'Manifesto-super-duper-denial-mode' and refuse to state which is which?

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Old 12th June 2018, 02:06 PM   #253
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The easier CT route is to claim the CIA put Oswald up to the killing. That way you don't have to look stupid trying to prove all of these cover-up claims.
What would be the fun in that - remember endless complexity - especially complexity for no good reason - is the basis for most CT.
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Come on, Brain-Squirrels are still classified. That's what happens when you miss shill meetings.
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Old 12th June 2018, 02:09 PM   #255
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What would be the fun in that - remember endless complexity - especially complexity for no good reason - is the basis for most CT.
Plus you'd have to do actual research. Go to Dallas, talk to human beings who were there, do the same in Mexico City, and New Orleans. If the Cubans had a sense of humor it might be worth visiting there to interview folks, but right now that would end badly.
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Old 12th June 2018, 02:12 PM   #256
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I’m in the middle of an argument of how common it would be for PMO’s being duly processed without said stamps on it. If common = no sign of fake. If not common or never = sign of fake.
I hope you mean you're "in the middle of research" on this question, because your arguments so far have been ineffective. And even if your research revealed that, say, only ten in 100,000 PMOs from 1963 lacked all the appropriate stamps, how would you prove that LHO's PMO was the result of fakery instead of bureaucratic haste or error?

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Old 12th June 2018, 02:14 PM   #257
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Come on, Brain-Squirrels are still classified. That's what happens when you miss shill meetings.
Oh damn.......................ah, er ah, ooooh I was kidding, right
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Old 12th June 2018, 02:16 PM   #258
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Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
I just told you that this is exactly what needs to be compiled in one post (thread of its own?) for ease of access and here you are demanding that I do what I’ve just stated had to be done?

Are you at all reading what I’m posting, Traxy?

Why not?
Just making sure you have your ducks in a row and know what you need to address before attempting your usual handwaving reply.

There is an ocean of technical data in the links I've provided. Be sure you point out specifically how each of the linked studies is mistaken while Don Thomas is the absolute truth.

There are some very specific and damning criticisms leveled at Thomas's work that would render it invalid if true. Show, with evidence, how each of those specific criticisms is without merit.

Cite, explain, argue. Be specific. Be technical.
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Old 12th June 2018, 02:19 PM   #259
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If not common or never = sign of fake.
From WCR, p. 119: "From Klein’s records it was possible to trace the processing of the order after its receipt. A bank deposit made on March 13, 1963, included an item of $21.45. Klein’s shipping order form shows an imprint made by the cash register which recorded the receipt of $21.45 on March 13, 1963. This price included $19.95 for the rifle and the scope, and $1.50 for postage and handling. The rifle without the scope cost only $12.78."

Now don't you think that if there had been a sign of forgery, Klein's would have shouted that possibility from the rooftops rather than go down in history as the company that unwittingly banked blood money from the soon-to-be murderer of JFK?

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From WCR, p. 119: "From Klein’s records it was possible to trace the processing of the order after its receipt. A bank deposit made on March 13, 1963, included an item of $21.45. Klein’s shipping order form shows an imprint made by the cash register which recorded the receipt of $21.45 on March 13, 1963. This price included $19.95 for the rifle and the scope, and $1.50 for postage and handling. The rifle without the scope cost only $12.78."

Now don't you think that if there had been a sign of forgery, Klein's would have shouted that possibility from the rooftops rather than go down in history as the company that unwittingly banked blood money from the soon-to-be murderer of JFK?
Question on that date who knew that Kennedy would be driving thru Dallas in November?
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Old 12th June 2018, 02:39 PM   #261
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The easier CT route is to claim the CIA put Oswald up to the killing.
Easier? Without evidence?


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That way you don't have to look stupid trying to prove all of these cover-up claims.
It’s the cover-up that proves the conspiracy,..snip...

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I do not claim this from the absense of bank endorsment stamps alone.
No, you absolutely did in the below where you claimed "The Hidell PMO that have no bank endorsement stamps that according to the federal regulations should be present = forgery..." You are now attempting to backpedal from that claim.


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If not common or never = sign of fake.
So by that illogic all the ones missing a bank stamp must be a forgery. Or as OKBob (I believe it was) pointed out, establishing the bank stamps are mandatory is only the smallest part of the job in front of you. Establishing the conspiracy (rather than assuming it from a missing bank stamp) is the bigger task for you.


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One step at a time, Hank.
So your first step should be to tell us which of these three conflicting statements by you is true:
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I’m still not claiming that the absense of said bank endorsing stamps is proof of forgery.
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The Hidell PMO that have no bank endorsement stamps that according to the federal regulations should be present = forgery.
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I do not claim this [forgery] from the absense of bank endorsment stamps alone.

Let us know so we don't keep doing this three step tango with you.

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Old 12th June 2018, 02:46 PM   #263
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Wait a second? You wrote this:
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The false Secret Service agent was a Treasury Department agent.

I asked this in response:
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Name?

And you respond with this?
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I posted a link on the previous page but you missed it while you were blowing smoke.

Here are links to official documents wherein RFK is being briefed on operations in Cuba:

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nsa/cuba_...ney%20Gen..pdf

This is the infamous "Northwinds" document, which would have been reviewed by the Kennedy NSC:

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nsa/cuba_...0of%20Ops..pdf

This is the 25, July, 1962 review of Mongoose. Scroll to the bottom you will see that RFK is on the CC list, or to use CT language, "In on it":

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nsa/cuba_...20Mongoose.pdf

This is the minutes of a 4, October, 1962 meeting of the Cuban Group where RFK opens the meeting saying that a "Higher Authority" (meaning JFK) was not happy with the recent progress, and wanted to step up activity (sabotage operations in Cuba):

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nsa/cuba_...%20Special.pdf

Then this is the meeting where "Fracturing the Regime" is discussed with RFK . Fracturing the Regime is a polite way of saying assassination:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc....Id=21&tab=page

It's even on the Mary Ferrell site, so you know it has to be true (in your world)

Sorry dude, the Kennedy brothers were going after Castro in a hard way.
Is there a name on your ”Treasury Department agent” somewhere in there?

Where?
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Yep he's running. He cannot accept he made a mistake.

so....

Gallop and change the subject.
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Old 12th June 2018, 02:55 PM   #265
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Manifesto DEEP THINKING:

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I’m still not claiming that the absense of said bank endorsing stamps is proof of forgery. No bank endorsement stamps that according to the federal regulations should be present = forgery
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Easier? Without evidence?


It’s the cover-up that proves the conspiracy, stupid.
Lack of evidence has yet to bother you in any way. We know that LBJ and RFK actively impeded the Warren Commission's investigations where it drifted into the anti-Cuban operations. If Oswald could have been linked to a compromised CIA anti-Castro cell in Dallas you can see why they might want to quash that line of investigation.

It is also easier to cover up with a few personal phone calls instead of the circus side-show of multiple gunmen, fake x-rays, and all of the other nonsense of the low-grade JFK-CT crowd.

It is the smart conspiracy.
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Wait a second?
Run, manifesto , run!
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Wait a second? You wrote this:



I asked this in response:



And you respond with this?
Is there a name on your ”Treasury Department agent” somewhere in there?

Where?
Translation: I'm not going to read it.

As for the mythical Secret Service Agent on the Grassy Knoll goes, there are only THREE witnesses claiming they encountered one. Here's a fact you and others miss; the Secret Service can deputize agents from other agencies to assist with Presidential security where a large geographic location, such as the motorcade route, was involved.

This meant that on 11/22/63 the Secret Serivice had extra help, and certainly would have had men in Dealey Plaza. These men could have been pulled from the ATF, Customs, USBP, reserve police, and sheriff's deputies. The motorcade route was crawling with them. Since these men are off-duty they do not appear on any official rosters, or listings of posted officers.

In 1963 the Secret Service and ATF ID's were virtually identical. FBI Agent, Robert Gemberling was told that two Customs agents who worked at the Post Office on Dealey Plaza were helping with security while on their lunch break.

Point being, Treasury agent or not, there actually were additional security personnel in Dealey Plaza at the time of the shooting, and the films show dozens of people rushing the Grassy Knoll after the final shots. Those men would have been among them.

There is no mystery
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Translation: I'm not going to read it.

As for the mythical Secret Service Agent on the Grassy Knoll goes, there are only THREE witnesses claiming they encountered one. Here's a fact you and others miss; the Secret Service can deputize agents from other agencies to assist with Presidential security where a large geographic location, such as the motorcade route, was involved.

This meant that on 11/22/63 the Secret Serivice had extra help, and certainly would have had men in Dealey Plaza. These men could have been pulled from the ATF, Customs, USBP, reserve police, and sheriff's deputies. The motorcade route was crawling with them. Since these men are off-duty they do not appear on any official rosters, or listings of posted officers.

In 1963 the Secret Service and ATF ID's were virtually identical. FBI Agent, Robert Gemberling was told that two Customs agents who worked at the Post Office on Dealey Plaza were helping with security while on their lunch break.

Point being, Treasury agent or not, there actually were additional security personnel in Dealey Plaza at the time of the shooting, and the films show dozens of people rushing the Grassy Knoll after the final shots. Those men would have been among them.

There is no mystery
Where are your evidence for this? Secret Service or any other organization have said nothing of this.

So, where did you find it?
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Old 12th June 2018, 03:30 PM   #270
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Yep he's running. He cannot accept he made a mistake.

so....

Gallop and change the subject.
What ”mistake” did I made, Hans_copying_his_idol_RoboTimbo_anxiously_showing_ his_loyalty_for_a_pad_on_the_head?
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Old 12th June 2018, 03:33 PM   #271
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Run, manifesto , run!
On any other forum in the known world, this kind of posting had got you banned a long long time ago.

But, since this forum is all about science and skepticism, this is not only tolerated, it’s kept in the highest esteem.

Wellcome.
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What ”mistake” did I made
So you're in complete denial huh?

Is it fun to be a public intellectual fraud?

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No problem we'll just keep asking the question until you decide what your actual opinion is........

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So you're in complete denial huh?

Is it fun to be a public intellectual fraud?

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No problem we'll just keep asking the question until you decide what your actual opinion is........

What mistake did I made, Hans?
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Old 12th June 2018, 03:36 PM   #274
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Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
On any other forum in the known world, this kind of posting had got you banned a long long time ago.

But, since this forum is all about science and skepticism, this is not only tolerated, it’s kept in the highest esteem.

Wellcome.
Then leave.

You said

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I’m still not claiming that the absense of said bank endorsing stamps is proof of forgery.

No bank endorsement stamps that according to the federal regulations should be present = forgery
Refusal to answer questions will get you banned form certain websites to

How long do you plan to play your game?
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Old 12th June 2018, 03:37 PM   #275
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What mistake did I made, Hans?
You made two

You cannot even get that right?

Which of your statements is right?

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I’m still not claiming that the absense of said bank endorsing stamps is proof of forgery. No bank endorsement stamps that according to the federal regulations should be present = forgery
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Old 12th June 2018, 03:50 PM   #276
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Question on that date who knew that Kennedy would be driving thru Dallas in November?
No-one did.

However, Oswald didn't buy the rifle to assassinate JFK, he bought it to murder Major-General Edwin Walker, which he attempted to do on April 10, 1963, with that very rifle (the bullet forensics proves this beyond any doubt whatsoever) only 16 days after he picked it up from the Post Office.
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No-one did. However, Oswald didn't buy the rifle to assassinate JFK, he bought it to murder Major-General Edwin Walker, which he attempted to do on April 10, 1963, with that very rifle (the bullet forensics proves this beyonf any doubt whatsoever) only 16 days after he picked it up from the Post Office.
....thanks I've haven't stared at a timeline on JFK for a long time.
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Old 12th June 2018, 03:55 PM   #278
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I posted a link on the previous page but you missed it while you were blowing smoke.
I guess this post is about your evidence of RFK being involved in assassination attempts and or planning of such of Castro?

Correct?

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Here are links to official documents wherein RFK is being briefed on operations in Cuba:

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nsa/cuba_...ney%20Gen..pdf

This is the infamous "Northwinds" [sic] document, which would have been reviewed by the Kennedy NSC:

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nsa/cuba_...0of%20Ops..pdf

This is the 25, July, 1962 review of Mongoose. Scroll to the bottom you will see that RFK is on the CC list, or to use CT language, "In on it":

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nsa/cuba_...20Mongoose.pdf

This is the minutes of a 4, October, 1962 meeting of the Cuban Group where RFK opens the meeting saying that a "Higher Authority" (meaning JFK) was not happy with the recent progress, and wanted to step up activity (sabotage operations in Cuba):

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nsa/cuba_...%20Special.pdf
Quote the juicy parts, that states that RFK was involved in plans/attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro.

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Then this is the meeting where "Fracturing the Regime" is discussed with RFK . Fracturing the Regime is a polite way of saying assassination:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc....Id=21&tab=page

It's even on the Mary Ferrell site, so you know it has to be true (in your world)

Sorry dude, the Kennedy brothers were going after Castro in a hard way.
Yes, the overt aim of Operation Mongoose was to make live difficult in Cuba and therefore the Castro regime, with the hope to ”fracturing” it.

However, the covert aim was to show ”busy-ness” and thereby not anger the already angry and frustrated Cuban exiles and their violent supporters in the CIA/Mob/Right Wing Cuba effort. To ’contain the situation’.

Now, show me that ”Fracturing the Regime” was ”polite CIA-lingua” for political assassinations and if so (lol), that RFK knew this.

Do it.

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Where are your evidence for this? Secret Service or any other organization have said nothing of this.
Did you ask them?
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Old 12th June 2018, 03:59 PM   #280
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Then leave.
Exactly. You made my point.

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