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Old 6th August 2019, 08:10 AM   #1
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39 year old man assaults 13 year old boy for "disrespecting the National Anthem"

Montana man allegedly leaves boy seizing on the ground with a fractured skull, reportedly told bystanders that "He had a right to do that since the boy was disrespecting the national anthem"

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A Montana man allegedly assaulted a 13-year-old boy who he believed had disrespected the American national anthem at a county fair in the state. Curt James Brockway, 39, of Superior, is accused of assaulting the boy at the Mineral County Fair and Rodeo at around 11 p.m. on Saturday.

"There was a little boy lying on the ground," Taylor Hennick, who was as the rodeo, told Missoulian. "He was bleeding out of his ears, seizing on the ground, just not coherent."

According to KPAX, witnesses saw a man pick up a boy and throw him to the ground. Brockway reportedly tried to justify his actions to nearby fairgoers. Hennick told Missoulian: "He said [the boy] was disrespecting the national anthem so he had every right to do that."

The unnamed boy's parents said his ears bled for six hours after the incident and that his skull was fractured. He was taken by air ambulance to Sacred Heart Children's Hospital in Spokane.
Link: https://www.newsweek.com/montana-man...anthem-1452740
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Old 6th August 2019, 08:22 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Montana man allegedly leaves boy seizing on the ground with a fractured skull, reportedly told bystanders that "He had a right to do that since the boy was disrespecting the national anthem"

From Newsweek:

Link: https://www.newsweek.com/montana-man...anthem-1452740
The ****** up parts to me:

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Curt James Brockway was arrested by Mineral County Sheriff's deputies around 11 p.m. Saturday. Montana Department of Justice records show he is registered as a violent offender. Brockway made his initial appearance in Mineral County Justice Court on Monday, and was scheduled to be released on his own recognizance on Tuesday.

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Brockway...is serving a 10-year probation sentence for an assault with a weapon charge in 2010.
So he's a violent offender that is on probation for assault with a weapon, attacks a minor (13 yo) and this mother ****** is going to get out on his own recognizance? **** him. Lock him up and throw away the key.
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Old 6th August 2019, 08:26 AM   #3
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So he's a violent offender that is on probation for assault with a weapon, attacks a minor (13 yo) and this mother ****** is going to get out on his own recognizance?
Clearly, that's because he's just another victim, and this is all really Colin Kaepernick's fault. We should expect a tweet to confirm that any minute.

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//Devils advocate// Small Montana town, dude might be so well known by the local law enforcement that the chances of him running or not showing up to trial pretty low //

But I agree it's pretty messed up and just standard "good ole' boy" nonsense is the much more likely reason.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Montana man allegedly leaves boy seizing on the ground with a fractured skull, reportedly told bystanders that "He had a right to do that since the boy was disrespecting the national anthem"
I'm going to venture a wild guess and say that he's probably not a legal expert.
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Old 6th August 2019, 08:56 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
//Devils advocate// Small Montana town, dude might be so well known by the local law enforcement that the chances of him running or not showing up to trial pretty low //

But I agree it's pretty messed up and just standard "good ole' boy" nonsense is the much more likely reason.
I agree with your devils advocate* position, but hasn't he done enough to show that he is a danger to the community?


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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
//Devils advocate// Small Montana town, dude might be so well known by the local law enforcement that the chances of him running or not showing up to trial pretty low //

But I agree it's pretty messed up and just standard "good ole' boy" nonsense is the much more likely reason.
How isn't beating a child a violation of his probation? After all he doesn't need to be convicted of a crime to be sent to prison as he already was, he just needs to be argued to violate probation.
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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
How isn't beating a child a violation of his probation? After all he doesn't need to be convicted of a crime to be sent to prison as he already was, he just needs to be argued to violate probation.
There's a process (Revocation) that you go through when you violate your probation. I believe you're thinking of parole.

From my experience, what happens next is his probation officer will revoke is probation (which is what they should be doing instead of letting him out), and he'll have to face his original charges again along with the new charges.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
//Devils advocate// Small Montana town, dude might be so well known by the local law enforcement that the chances of him running or not showing up to trial pretty low //

But I agree it's pretty messed up and just standard "good ole' boy" nonsense is the much more likely reason.
But the evidence that his own recognizance won't prevent him from doing serious harm to strangers is pretty high.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
//Devils advocate// Small Montana town, dude might be so well known by the local law enforcement that the chances of him running or not showing up to trial pretty low //

But I agree it's pretty messed up and just standard "good ole' boy" nonsense is the much more likely reason.
So you think no flight risk is the only consideration in the guy's release?

How about revoking that probation?
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Well, these days when I think of the American Flag I do usually think of violent criminal trash.
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But the evidence that his own recognizance won't prevent him from doing serious harm to strangers is pretty high.
He just needs time to go fetch his guns and ammo. He'll be in the news again shortly.
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I agree with your devils advocate* position, but hasn't he done enough to show that he is a danger to the community?


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Isn't probation usually dependent upon not reoffending?
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Isn't probation usually dependent upon not reoffending?
I know **** all about criminal law, but this would certainly seem like something that should cause serious problems for someone on probation. His release is baffling to me.
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I know **** all about criminal law, but this would certainly seem like something that should cause serious problems for someone on probation. His release is baffling to me.
From my own experience, his release is baffling me. When I was 18 I got in some trouble and had probation. I got mine revoked because I got a minor in consumption. In case anyone is curious, my felony was non-violent, and non-drug related. Drinking was also non-violent, and I got revoked the following Monday, and arrested.

In this case, it's violent, he has a history of violence, and this happened on the weekend. Under no circumstance should he even have the option of getting out.
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Well, these days when I think of the American Flag I do usually think of violent criminal trash.


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Do we know in what way the boy violated the national anthem?
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Do we know in what way the boy violated the national anthem?
It was dressed slutty for a start. And he took issues with the verse about who glorious it is to kill rebellious slaves.
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Do we know in what way the boy violated the national anthem?
While it might be interesting to know, I hope you agree that it is not actually important. He could have spat and said out loud "**** the National Anthem" and it still would not be reasonable grounds to break his skull even if he had been an adult. Remember that our freedom is tested at the edges, not the middle.
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I don't know why this story is treating this man's claim at face value. This grown ass man savagely beat a 13 year old. I see no reason to treat his word as credible.

Is there any evidence that such "disrespect" of the national anthem even occurred?

It should go without saying that the attack is unjustified regardless, but I just find it weird that this story is being reported based on the word of a unhinged, violent lunatic.
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I don't know why this story is treating this man's claim at face value. This grown ass man savagely beat a 13 year old. I see no reason to treat his word as credible.

Is there any evidence that such "disrespect" of the national anthem even occurred?

It should go without saying that the attack is unjustified regardless, but I just find it weird that this story is being reported based on the word of a unhinged, violent lunatic.
If he really disrespected the National Anthem it would be justified.
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I think we need to know if either one was wearing a MAGA hat before jumping to conclusions
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Ho do you even disrespect a song?

It is like disrespecting a box of matches
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What do the "back in my day we were allowed to whip our kids" types think of this.
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According to multiple accounts, Man assaulted boy who kept hat on during anthem
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Do we know in what way the boy violated the national anthem?

He failed to properly hump the nearest flag while the song was playing.
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According to multiple accounts, Man assaulted boy who kept hat on during anthem
Would have been better if the kid refused to remove his hard-hat...


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A guy really lost it at a Dickens Christmas Fair a sort of Victorian Renfair….in San Francisco a couple of years ago.
One of the singing groups who perform there did an old English Drinking Song called "Anacreon In Heaven" the tune of which, of course, was borrowed for the Star Spangle Banner. He just got really mad at the anthem being disrespected. had to be calmed down by security guards.
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He failed to properly hump the nearest flag while the song was playing.
Lol
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A guy really lost it at a Dickens Christmas Fair a sort of Victorian Renfair….in San Francisco a couple of years ago.
One of the singing groups who perform there did an old English Drinking Song called "Anacreon In Heaven" the tune of which, of course, was borrowed for the Star Spangle Banner. He just got really mad at the anthem being disrespected. had to be calmed down by security guards.
That is funny, not even respecting the anthem enough on his part to know its history as taking the tune of a drinking song and setting a poem to it?

And everyone forgets the third verse about how great it was to see rebellious slaves who joined the british get killed.
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Well, these days when I think of the American Flag I do usually think of violent criminal trash.
It's coming......
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I think we need to know if either one was wearing a MAGA hat before jumping to conclusions
..... closer......
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..... closer......
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There's a rap sheet website which says he's currently serving a ten-year sentence (passed in 2011), suspended, stemming from an incident in 2010. Not sure if parole counts in this case (not a legal expert), but seems extraordinary to release someone under these circumstances.
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I don't care if he's a Trump supporter or not. As was mentioned upthread, this event is absolutely tragic and nothing would justify it.

It's not like I'm secretly hoping my political rivals almost killed a kid over something as ******* dumb as the national anthem. For the life of me I don't even understand what the two have to do with each other (sports and nut hugging the flag). Did the founding fathers have something for sports or rodeo's? For dumb.
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Originally Posted by commandlinegamer View Post
There's a rap sheet website which says he's currently serving a ten-year sentence (passed in 2011), suspended, stemming from an incident in 2010. Not sure if parole counts in this case (not a legal expert), but seems extraordinary to release someone under these circumstances.
He's not on parole, he's on probation, but yeah. It's definitely ridiculous that they are letting this flaming bag of dog **** out on his own, without even paying bail by the sounds of the article.
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What do the "back in my day we were allowed to whip our kids" types think of this.
Further back than that, even though the occasional whipping was considered in bounds, it was definitely not permitted to attack other people's kids and break their skulls.
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Do we know for sure he's out awaiting arraignment? I saw an Aug 12th or 14th date for arraignment.
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