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Old 1st December 2021, 07:49 PM   #1
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Quack TV “Doctor” Mehmet Oz Announces Pennsylvania Senate GOP Primary Run

Multiple Daytime Emmy Award Winner, perennial Oprah guest, TV alt-med huckster and Chloroquine Cure Anti-vaxxer Mehmet Oz announced today his candidacy for Republican Party nomination for U.S. Senate. He enters a crowded primary field, filled with relative unknowns vying for recognition as the Trumpiest candidate hoping to replace retiring Senator Patrick Toomey, and becomes an immediate front-runner as the only one of the field with name recognition. He has yet to state his clear position on The Big Lie but has seemingly bought into voter fraud conspiracy theories.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/30/u...nsylvania.html

If he wins the primary he will likely be pitted against either Lt. Gov John Fetterman or Representative Conor Lamb on the Democratic ticket, both media savvy candidates with statewide recognition.

Looks like an absurdly interesting race to watch.
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He's pushing the right buttons.

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Originally Posted by Venom View Post
He's pushing the right buttons.

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And the real sad thing is he very likely will be the most sane candidate.
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Get him elected, then assign him to the committees least suitable for him that can be found. LOTS of them. Fill his days with crud; keep him off TV. Who knows! He may even do something useful in them!
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Old 1st December 2021, 10:29 PM   #7
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Get him elected, then assign him to the committees least suitable for him that can be found. LOTS of them. Fill his days with crud; keep him off TV. Who knows! He may even do something useful in them!
I have been thinking he might be less dangerous in the Senate. At least now half the people will know not to believe him.
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Sorry, I'm not an American and thus less familiar with their political candidates history, but how often does a person go from being investigated by congress for fraud and trying to fill a seat there in just a couple of years?

This is absolutely baffling.

Almost makes me wish that they'll restart the campaign to run Oprah for presidency just so the two of them will go head to head at some point.
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Sounds like his contract is up for renegotiation.

Same reason Trump ran.
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Sorry, I'm not an American and thus less familiar with their political candidates history, but how often does a person go from being investigated by congress for fraud and trying to fill a seat there in just a couple of years?
If we're lucky, it happens in that order.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Sounds like his contract is up for renegotiation.

Same reason Trump ran.
Actually it was just renewed last year through 2023 but now is being pulled from NY and PA. The stations decided it would be harder to try and give his opponents the same amount of air time, so pulled his show.

https://deadline.com/2021/12/the-dr-...un-1234883237/
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May Fetterman crush his head.
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I want to say "Jesus this loon, really?" but when you look at a lot of recent GQP activity...

Also, just to show that nuttery isn't one sided, Jessie Ventura.
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Originally Posted by MarkCorrigan View Post
I want to say "Jesus this loon, really?" but when you look at a lot of recent GQP activity...

Also, just to show that nuttery isn't one sided, Jessie Ventura.
He was an independent you should go with Al Franken, as he was a democrat.
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Franken wasn't a crank though, just kind of a scumbag.
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Franken wasn't a crank though, just kind of a scumbag.
But he was a democrat and you would be pretty hard pressed to say Ventura was too liberal for the democrats. I never thought he was terribly liberal.
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Franken wasn't a crank though, just kind of a scumbag.
And even then, Franken still had the good sense and/or a modicum of integrity to resign when his misdeeds were revealed. Compare that to the average republican, who will either rail against the "fake news", or wear the shame like a badge of honor.
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Get him elected, then assign him to the committees least suitable for him that can be found. LOTS of them. Fill his days with crud; keep him off TV. Who knows! He may even do something useful in them!
Errrr... no.

(I know your post was probably made in jest, but when you have a 50/50 split in the Senate, you probably don't want to risk seeing him elected and then marginalized because he may still have the ability to put Moscow Mitch back in charge.)
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May Fetterman crush his head.
Oh I so want him in the senate.
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And the real sad thing is he very likely will be the most sane REPUBLICAN candidate.
Fixed that for you.

Regarding the thread title, Oz is a genuine MD and a skilled surgeon. Unfortunately he's failed to stick to what he's good at.
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Fixed that for you.

Regarding the thread title, Oz is a genuine MD and a skilled surgeon. Unfortunately he's failed to stick to what he's good at.
I mean who else will let you get Reiki during heart transplant surgery?
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Fixed that for you.

Regarding the thread title, Oz is a genuine MD and a skilled surgeon. Unfortunately he's failed to stick to what he's good at.
Reminds me of Ben Carson.
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I certainly hope that Pennsylvanians do not decide to again elect a GOP loon who displayed their incompetence primarily in New Jersey.
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Fixed that for you.

Regarding the thread title, Oz is a genuine MD and a skilled surgeon. Unfortunately he's failed to stick to what he's good at.
"He's God. He only thinks he's a surgeon."
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I certainly hope that Pennsylvanians do not decide to again elect a GOP loon who displayed their incompetence primarily in New Jersey.
I think the lack of understanding of Pennsylvania politics will crush him. Pennsylvania isn't New York; if you want to run for office, you better have survived the crucible of having lived in Pennsylvania. New York and California expect you to have moved there. They attract people from all over. Pennsylvania expects you to have put up with having lived there and cared enough to run for office.
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I think the lack of understanding of Pennsylvania politics will crush him. Pennsylvania isn't New York; if you want to run for office, you better have survived the crucible of having lived in Pennsylvania. New York and California expect you to have moved there. They attract people from all over. Pennsylvania expects you to have put up with having lived there and cared enough to run for office.
Won't some Philadelphians have a bit of a problem with an immigrant Muslim running for office?
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Won't some Philadelphians have a bit of a problem with an immigrant Muslim running for office?
Oz was born in the US. But being Muslim will be a difficult obstacle to overcome with rural Republicans.
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Won't some Philadelphians have a bit of a problem with an immigrant Muslim running for office?
I bet that is what the Dems are hoping for, lol. Selective endorsement of bigotry.
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A mosque and two Islamic centers in WA have been targeted since October. I'm sure rhetoric by the likes of MTG and Boebert have no influence on the idiots responsible.
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Oz was born in the US. But being Muslim will be a difficult obstacle to overcome with rural Republicans.
In the primaries - possibly.

If he is successful in the primary then I'm sure that rural Republicans would have no problem whatsoever voting for him.

They had no problem voting for a self-confessed sexual predator and bankrupt for President. They had no problem voting for a child molester for Senate. By comparison a Muslim is pretty small beer.
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If Oz makes it to the general election, Trump (if he's still alive) will endorse him. That helps Oz everywhere in the state except Philadelphia, Scranton and Pittsburgh. The trouble for Oz is that most people who live in Pennsylvania live in the environs of those three cities.
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Oz was born in the US. But being Muslim will be a difficult obstacle to overcome with rural Republicans.


So was Obama, and he still had to deal with "being an immigrant" in the minds of the GOP voters. Logic is not their strong suit.

And while we're at it, Obama wasn't Muslim either, but still had to deal with the "He's a Muslim!" problems from the same idiots.
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If Oz makes it to the general election, Trump (if he's still alive) will endorse him. That helps Oz everywhere in the state except Philadelphia, Scranton and Pittsburgh. The trouble for Oz is that most people who live in Pennsylvania live in the environs of those three cities.
I dunno, he will appeal to those middle-class, suburban white women.
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Apparently, Oz's entrance into the race has been a fundraising goldmine for both Fetterman & Lamb's campaigns. At the same time, Oz brings his own money into a race where none of the GOP candidates were able to raise much in the way of funding.

Fetterman has been hammering Oz's website candidacy by noting his website (where he has his candidacy highlighted) does not even mention Pennsylvania.
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Oz was born in the US. But being Muslim will be a difficult obstacle to overcome with rural Republicans.
...of immigrant parents. That means he, too, was an immigrant, because that stain never washes out. According to some anyway. Or an "anchor baby", possibly. Actually...we've never seen his long-form birth certificate, have we!

Oz is also proud of his Turkish heritage. Which is proof he never really was an American citizen. He is very likely a spy, and loyal to foreign influences.

And the Muslim thing. That's a dead giveaway. Oz is not American!

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"He's God. He only thinks he's a surgeon."
Beat you to that one!

In my former line of work, of course, it was usually "thinks he's a pilot".
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Apparently, Oz's entrance into the race has been a fundraising goldmine for both Fetterman & Lamb's campaigns. At the same time, Oz brings his own money into a race where none of the GOP candidates were able to raise much in the way of funding.

Fetterman has been hammering Oz's website candidacy by noting his website (where he has his candidacy highlighted) does not even mention Pennsylvania.
I had an urge to give to Fetterman and I have no connection to PA.

I’ve only seen fluff pieces on the guy but he seems like a good choice.
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Because of Toomey's retirement, both parties see it as an opportunity to maintain/wrest control of the Senate. Lots of money pouring in from everywhere.
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I had an urge to give to Fetterman and I have no connection to PA.

I’ve only seen fluff pieces on the guy but he seems like a good choice.
He's surprisingly charismatic and bluntly spoken, albeit in a "We should really stop letting the lunatics run the asylum" way rather than a Trumpesque appeal to pure hateful Id. He's Progressive, but still has cred with moderates which means he hopefully won't shine bright at rallies but burn out at the polls like Sanders does. He also seems to have some appeal to farmers and small town Pennsylvanians without the demonizing of city & suburb residents. Probably not as much as a GQP candidate would, but enough to eat into their polls.

The downside is that the Democratic Party are doing all they can to crush Progressive candidates before they gain momentum. They have an old incident where he could be accused of racially profiling that Lamb and others will doubtless use, but its lost some its shock value since it was revealed and Fetterman apologized for it. It would be laughable if the GQP tried to use it against him.

Oddly enough Lamb might be a more effective developer of legislation if he were elected to Senate, but Fetterman would get a lot more presence.
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