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Old 17th June 2021, 08:13 PM   #401
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Besides, when we're talking about their respective duties, Senate Majority Leader picks the SC Justice nominee isn't one of them.
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Old 17th June 2021, 08:27 PM   #402
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
"On Sunday, June 20th, Joe Biden will have been President for exactly five months. And in those five months we've seen crisis after crisis after crisis." - Sen Ted Cruz.

*Gets up... walks over to the window. Opens it. Crickets*

What the **** is he on about?
Honestly, I'd give Cruz this one. Joe Biden has been addressing crisis after crisis after crisis - nigh all of which were directly caused or greatly exacerbated by the Trump Administration. In the course of addressing some of them, they were/are rather visible, so it's not a stretch to say that they're being seen.
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Old 17th June 2021, 08:44 PM   #403
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
*Gets up... walks over to the window. Opens it. Crickets*

What the **** is he on about?
You're in Texas, hearing crickets because the power grid's collapsed again and everyone's A/C is out.
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Old 17th June 2021, 08:45 PM   #404
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
If you think if Obama let McConnell pick the nominee, then McConnell wouldn't grant that guy a hearing....
Oscow Mitch would nominate someone wildly unfit, and then denounce “Obama’s socialist/child molesting/whatever pick”.

This is the same guy that denounced his own bill as soon as Obama said it was good, and routinely runs around howling when huge proposes a bill he thinks dems will run from, only to have them say “that’s what we want, let’s vote”.
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
I probably agree but surely you can think that hearings and floor speeches are the way to do it either?
I am guessing you mistyped and meant "cannot." But if the idea is to determine the suitability of a candidate, then the procedure that is designed explicitly to explore the suitability of a candidate seems like a pretty good place to do it.
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Old 18th June 2021, 04:42 AM   #406
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The voting rights bill does not seem to have its own thread.

It might still get somewhere, but politicians seem to wrap up "work" (Boebert tweeting all the while she is in the building) in summer. Senate has an August recess.

So there is maybe July to get this done, otherwise it will not happen before 2022 election. The election where we need this law.
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Old 18th June 2021, 06:32 AM   #407
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Originally Posted by bruto View Post
I am guessing you mistyped and meant "cannot." But if the idea is to determine the suitability of a candidate, then the procedure that is designed explicitly to explore the suitability of a candidate seems like a pretty good place to do it.
If it is a good system for evaluating candidates, why do so few organizations use that method?

No offense to those who designed the system, but I don't think it would stand up against a system designed by people with expertise in the subject.
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Old 18th June 2021, 08:24 AM   #408
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I wonder if we'll hear anything about this from the Biden Administration.

In secret recording, Florida Republican threatens to send Russian-Ukrainian ‘hit squad’ after rival

“I really don't want to have to end anybody's life for the good of the people of the United States of America. ... But if it needs to be done, it needs to be done," William Braddock says in the clip.


Or, for that matter, from the Republican Party, given that it's Republican vs Republican all the way around.
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Old 18th June 2021, 09:30 AM   #409
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In other news, Crazy Ronny Jackson wants Biden to take a cognitive test:
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Jackson told Fox News' Sean Hannity on Thursday that he was circulating a letter among House GOP colleagues because he believed Biden was "not physically or cognitively fit to be our president right now."

More than a dozen Republicans signed the letter, including Reps. Brian Babin, Pat Fallon, Bob Gibbs, and Jeff Duncan.
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Old 18th June 2021, 09:41 AM   #410
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Originally Posted by Galaxie View Post
I love how right-wingers don't have a single original idea in their heads, and always have to co-opt or copy what the other side dies. Trump shows cognitive decline? Biden must too! Some GOP critters are fiddling kids? Biden must too? Don't like the term "Fake news"? Start using it yourself, etc.
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Old 18th June 2021, 09:57 AM   #411
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Originally Posted by Galaxie View Post
I'm sure those who say you can't diagnose without examination will be along shortly.
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Old 18th June 2021, 10:37 AM   #412
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
If it is a good system for evaluating candidates, why do so few organizations use that method?

No offense to those who designed the system, but I don't think it would stand up against a system designed by people with expertise in the subject.
I am not sure how many organizations and instances you're thinking of. The issue here is the selection of Supreme Court justices and nothing else, and one might presume that the system was designed by those who designed the constitution, whom some might consider to have had some expertise in the subject of setting up a workable government. The idea of a Supreme Court itself is their idea too. You might be right that a better and more expertly designed process would be possible, but what is being discussed is emphatically and obviously not that.

The idea that handing the decision of whether a candidate is even brought up for consideration to a single partisan politician (and in this case to one of the most egregiously hypocritical and anti-democratic hacks in recent history) seems utterly bizarre. "Expertise in the subject?" What subject is that?
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Old 18th June 2021, 10:58 AM   #413
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Originally Posted by bruto View Post
I am not sure how many organizations and instances you're thinking of. The issue here is the selection of Supreme Court justices and nothing else, and one might presume that the system was designed by those who designed the constitution, whom some might consider to have had some expertise in the subject of setting up a workable government. The idea of a Supreme Court itself is their idea too. You might be right that a better and more expertly designed process would be possible, but what is being discussed is emphatically and obviously not that.

The idea that handing the decision of whether a candidate is even brought up for consideration to a single partisan politician (and in this case to one of the most egregiously hypocritical and anti-democratic hacks in recent history) seems utterly bizarre. "Expertise in the subject?" What subject is that?
Garland was considered by many senators. If sufficient number of senators did not think McConnell spoke for them, they did not say so

Also, I would not say they had sufficient experience in designing governments such that their position should be well regarded.
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Old 18th June 2021, 11:42 AM   #414
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Originally Posted by slyjoe View Post
I'm sure those who say you can't diagnose without examination will be along shortly.
You also can't diagnose something that's really happening but just too mild to be a diagnosable condition.

It's normal for people to take an extra long time figuring out how to react to something they weren't expecting (including when they probably should have expected it). When that happens, it's also normal to verbally bumble through the intervening time while you're still trying to figure out what to say. It's also normal to mix up names which have sounds/letters in common especially if they refer to similar entities, as in two Mediterranean counties with names in the form "-y-ia". For a particular person to do such things more than average, or more than himself a few decades ago, is not great, but nothing to flip out about.

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Old 18th June 2021, 12:51 PM   #415
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The voting rights bill does not seem to have its own thread.

It might still get somewhere, but politicians seem to wrap up "work" (Boebert tweeting all the while she is in the building) in summer. Senate has an August recess.

So there is maybe July to get this done, otherwise it will not happen before 2022 election. The election where we need this law.
McConnell has vowed to stop the Voting Rights Bill. He has no interest in passing anything ensuring voting rights before the 2022 election because his primary goal is to take back the Senate. He knows that his main hope of doing so is hindering voting rights, especially for people of color. He's power hungry POS who cares more about what he wants personally than what's good for the country.
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Old 18th June 2021, 12:54 PM   #416
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Does this consist of being able to repeat "man, woman, person, camera, TV"?
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Originally Posted by Galaxie View Post
anybody can pass that:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trump-t...here-1.5035687

I actually had that, as Medicare gives some lady a job at doctors' offices to tell you how to make the world safe (throw out the carpets and stairs in your house). And she does the 5 minute cognitive test. I remembered my 5 words. Not anymore, it was 10 months ago.
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Old 18th June 2021, 01:47 PM   #418
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Does this consist of being able to repeat "man, woman, person, camera, TV"?
Ha! I so want Biden to respond with that.

"Mr. President, Ronny Jackson has said you should take a cognitive test. What do you say to that?"

"Person, woman, man, camera, TV."

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Old 18th June 2021, 02:28 PM   #419
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Ha! I so want Biden to respond with that.

"Mr. President, Ronny Jackson has said you should take a cognitive test. What do you say to that?"

"Person, woman, man, camera, TV."

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Originally Posted by Galaxie View Post
Ha! I so want Biden to respond with that.

"Mr. President, Ronny Jackson has said you should take a cognitive test. What do you say to that?"

"Person, woman, man, camera, TV."

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Damn, I wanted to post that!
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Old 18th June 2021, 03:14 PM   #421
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I remembered those five words. I didn't have to look them up.
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Old 18th June 2021, 04:50 PM   #422
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Catholic bishops back document that could lead to limits of Communion for Biden

U.S. Catholic bishops on Friday voted to back a measure that could be an early step toward limiting Communion for President Biden and other Catholic politicians who support abortion rights.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...den/ar-AALbAMb
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Old 18th June 2021, 04:53 PM   #423
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Catholic bishops back document that could lead to limits of Communion for Biden

U.S. Catholic bishops on Friday voted to back a measure that could be an early step toward limiting Communion for President Biden and other Catholic politicians who support abortion rights.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...den/ar-AALbAMb
It's so much easier being an atheist. I don't have to put up with someone else telling me what I have to believe or do/not do when it comes to my personal choices. Well, unless the Republicans get their way. They think they have the right to tell me what I can/can't do with my own body.
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The Catholic Church is a disgusting organization already. This is not a surprise, but denying communion based on party affiliation should be easy for Biden to laugh off.
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The Catholic Church is a disgusting organization already. This is not a surprise, but denying communion based on party affiliation should be easy for Biden to laugh off.
It's not based on party affiliation but for his public support of abortion rights. You can be a registered Dem and not support abortion rights just like you can be a registered Republican and support them.

As a Catholic, he won't laugh it off but I don't think it'll change his support.

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Just an aside:

After 6 months we now only have 2 "parts" to the Biden Presidency thread.

After 4.5 years, the Trump presidency thread is at 28 parts, and counting.

Sure is nice. And I'd bet that Biden is only getting so much attention here because of his predecessor.
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
Just an aside:

After 6 months we now only have 2 "parts" to the Biden Presidency thread.

After 4.5 years, the Trump presidency thread is at 28 parts, and counting.

Sure is nice. And I'd bet that Biden is only getting so much attention here because of his predecessor.
And he's only been POTUS for 5 months. But, yes....it sure is nice. The poor Republicans have to resort to making up crap and conspiracy theories to find things to criticize him for.
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Unending stupidity. Until Kennedy in 1960 no Catholic was considered electable, and even he had a battle, because so many people believed that a Catholic would be beholden to the Church and unable to be independent and secular. So what does the Catholic Church try to do? Exactly what is feared. Duh. Of course the fundies and the like also think secularism is a dirty word, but since they're also entirely comfortable with blazing hypocrisy this won't stop them from pointing it out.
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Unending stupidity. Until Kennedy in 1960 no Catholic was considered electable, and even he had a battle, because so many people believed that a Catholic would be beholden to the Church and unable to be independent and secular. So what does the Catholic Church try to do? Exactly what is feared. Duh. Of course the fundies and the like also think secularism is a dirty word, but since they're also entirely comfortable with blazing hypocrisy this won't stop them from pointing it out.
I wonder if the C Church would threaten to deny Communion to JFK for his adultery if he were POTUS today.
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The Vatican has told the US bishops to cool their heels:

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The Vatican cautioned American bishops against denying communion to politicians, including President Biden, over their support for abortion rights.

The New York Times reported Pope Francis has warned that communion can’t be used as a political weapon by Catholic bishops.
https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...liticians-over
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It's so much easier being an atheist. I don't have to put up with someone else telling me what I have to believe or do/not do when it comes to my personal choices. Well, unless the Republicans get their way. They think they have the right to tell me what I can/can't do with my own body.
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Just an aside:

After 6 months we now only have 2 "parts" to the Biden Presidency thread.

After 4.5 years, the Trump presidency thread is at 28 parts, and counting.

Sure is nice. And I'd bet that Biden is only getting so much attention here because of his predecessor.
We may not agree with all of Biden's policies and intentions, but we can sleep at night knowing that neither he nor the responsible public servants he has appointed will do anything crazy.
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We may not agree with all of Biden's policies and intentions, but we can sleep at night knowing that neither he nor the responsible public servants he has appointed will do anything crazy.
True. And we know he's not a narcissistic sociopath who only cares about himself and is willing to screw over anybody in the pursuit of whatever he wants.
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Just to poke at a bit of a summation of some of the ongoing assaults on voting rights by Republicans, incidentally...

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Republicans celebrate Juneteeth with ongoing assault on voting rights

As The New York Times reports, Republicans in Georgia are engaged in purging county election officials thanks to a new law that replaces rules that allowed both parties to select election officials, with one that allows the GOP majority to select all members of election boards. So, when the polling places are selected and votes are counted in 2022, both actions will be taken by Republicans. And only by Republicans. Even some Republicans have been booted from county boards in favor of replacements who will do these tasks correctly. Members of at least 10 county election boards have already been removed, that includes removing Black members in communities with high levels of Black voters.

That bill is just one of 216 bills in 41 states where Republicans are pushing to gain more power over local election officials. 24 of those bills have already been enacted into law. In addition, Republicans have stripped the power of Secretaries of State to conduct elections and made it easier for state legislatures to overturn the outcome of elections.

Of course, not all these bills are permanant. Republicans in Arizona have specially framed limits on the Sec. of State to remove authority from Democratic incumbent Katie Hobbs. That bill expires when she leaves. Don’t worry — Republicans will be standing by with another bill to remove all authority should another Democrat reach office. Not that this is likely, since they’re controlling every aspect of the election, as well as determining what constitutes a “legitimate” result.

Republicans aren’t stopping there. In Kansas, they stripped the election authority of the governor, Laura Kelly, who had the bad taste to be a Democrat. The legislature assumed direct control over all the election authority previously held by either the governor or the secretary of state.

And in case an election just doesn’t turn out to suit, Arkansas has empowered a new elections board (6 Republicans, 1 Democrat) to make “corrective actions” on any race, at every level, across every county in the state. So even the bluest district could find themselves with a Republican representative once some of those numbers get “corrected.” The Republican who authored the bill creating this situation said it had to be done, because Republicans couldn’t get a “fair shake.” Which is clear from the way they control a massive majority in both state houses, as well as every state wide position. But they did lose one race, in one county. So clearly something had to be done.
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If the bishops follow this denial of communion for Biden, then they should ask every parishioner their position on abortion before receiving the sacrament.
Otherwise, the bishops are not sincere in their spiritual dogma.
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Just to poke at a bit of a summation of some of the ongoing assaults on voting rights by Republicans, incidentally...
And McConnell has the cajones to claim the voting rights For the People Act is a 'power grab' by the Dems.
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Old 19th June 2021, 02:16 PM   #437
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
If the bishops follow this denial of communion for Biden, then they should ask every parishioner their position on abortion before receiving the sacrament.
Otherwise, the bishops are not sincere in their spiritual dogma.
Religions are as hypocritical as the Republicans in Congress.
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Ron Johnson on Fox says you wouldn’t be wrong to be suspicious that Joe Biden is compromised by Russia


Remember when Ron Johnson and 7 others Republican members of Congress spent the 4th of July in Moscow?
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Good question, better one is what good ever came of listening to Ron Johnson.

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I do remember that though, and I remember a lot of them came back with some different talking points.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Ron Johnson on Fox says you wouldn’t be wrong to be suspicious that Joe Biden is compromised by Russia


Remember when Ron Johnson and 7 others Republican members of Congress spent the 4th of July in Moscow?
Like MTG and Gohmert, Johnson says and does so many stupid things that he deserve a thread dedicated just to him.
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