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Old 1st June 2021, 03:49 AM   #161
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Farage has tried 7 times to get elected as an MP.
He failed every time.
Once coming below a guy dressed as a dolphin. We have our idiots in the UK but even they wasn't stupid enough to vote Fraggle into Westminster.
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Old 1st June 2021, 09:46 AM   #162
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What kind of numbers did the dolphin pull?
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Old 1st June 2021, 10:09 AM   #163
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Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin View Post
What kind of numbers did the dolphin pull?
Bercow, ex Speaker of the House was defending a majority of over 18,000. The constituency is overwhelmingly Tory. He was returned with a reduced majority polling 12,529. John Stevens, independent candidate and Flipper one of his campaign workers came second with 10,331 votes Farage got 8,401.

He missed the count as he was in hospital after being in a light aircraft crash a week or so before.

Neither Labour or the Conservatives fielded and official candidate.

He came closer in 2015 when he stood in South Thanet and lost to the Tory by just 2812 votes poling 16,026 votes for a 32.4% share of the vote.

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Old 1st June 2021, 05:11 PM   #164
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Biden to suspend Trump Arctic drilling leases

US President Joe Biden's administration will suspend oil and gas leases in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge pending an environmental review.

The move reverses former President Donald Trump's decision to sell oil leases in the refuge to expand fossil fuel and mineral development.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57322511
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Old 1st June 2021, 05:30 PM   #165
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Biden to suspend Trump Arctic drilling leases

US President Joe Biden's administration will suspend oil and gas leases in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge pending an environmental review.

The move reverses former President Donald Trump's decision to sell oil leases in the refuge to expand fossil fuel and mineral development.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57322511
Good. I said at the time it would be foolhardy to invest money in oil and gas infrastructure as a Dem. president would likely cancel the Trump's decision.

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Old 1st June 2021, 11:51 PM   #166
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Biden's speech in Tulsa is extraordinarily direct for a President:
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"One hundred years ago, at this hour, on this first day of June smoke darkened the Tulsa sky, rising from 35 blocks of Greenwood that were left in ash and ember, raised in rubble," Biden said, adding that there was no proper accounting for the dead nor any arrests made. "In less than 24 hours, 1,100 Black homes and businesses were lost. Insurance companies -- they had insurance, many of them -- rejected claims of damage. Ten-thousand people were left destitute and homeless, placed in interment camps."
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Old 2nd June 2021, 11:04 AM   #167
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Good. I said at the time it would be foolhardy to invest money in oil and gas infrastructure as a Dem. president would likely cancel the Trump's decision.
I honestly wonder if it makes sense for anyone to invest in oil and gas infrastructure at this point in time. Falling costs of renewables and battery storage probably means that unless you find oil some place its dirt cheap and easy to pump it from its not worth the investment.
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Most of the offshore industry on the north east cost from the Tyne down to the Humber has is switching to offshore wind from oil and gas.

Plus, even in our part of the world solar farms are springing up.
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Old 3rd June 2021, 05:09 PM   #169
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Biden expands US investment ban on Chinese firms

US President Joe Biden is set to ban Americans from investing in dozens of Chinese tech and defence firms with alleged military ties.

The new executive order will come into effect on 2 August, hitting 59 firms including communications giant Huawei. The list of firms will be updated on a rolling basis.

The move expands an order previously issued by ex-President Donald Trump.

Even before the official announcement, China suggested it would retaliate.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57334265
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Old 3rd June 2021, 06:09 PM   #170
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Particularly impressive given how many people first learned of Black Wall Street (it was really one of many - and not the most wealthy one) last year through an HBO series.
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WASHINGTON—President Biden signaled he could accept a narrower infrastructure package that didn’t include raising the corporate tax rate, telling a top Senate Republican that he wants $1 trillion in new spending and floating alternative ways to pay for the measure, according to people briefed on the matter.

The new proposal, which includes a minimum corporate tax of 15% for the nation’s largest companies and the repurposing of some Covid-19 aid funding, marks a late shift from the White House, as Mr. Biden and Senate Republicans kick off what is expected to be a final flurry of talks on the size of the infrastructure plan and how to fund it.

During a Wednesday meeting with Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R., W.Va.), Mr. Biden put forward the $1 trillion proposal, down from $1.7 trillion previously, and outlined options to pay for the spending that wouldn’t boost the corporate tax rate to 28% from 21%, as he previously proposed. Republicans have called any effort to boost the corporate tax rate or unwind the Republicans’ 2017 tax law a nonstarter.
Shame.

It was even higher than 28% before Trump came into office. I know mainstream liberal Democrats aren't known for playing hardball but I had an ounce of hope for Biden in 2021.
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Shame.

It was even higher than 28% before Trump came into office. I know mainstream liberal Democrats aren't known for playing hardball but I had an ounce of hope for Biden in 2021.
It is a shame but as long as Biden and the Democrats let the costs increase the deficit and don't agree to the GOP idea of taking the money out of other programs like the COVID relief bill, then let's wait and see how this negotiating works out.

"Fine, you don't want to return taxes on the rich to the way they were in the recent past then don't complain about increasing the deficit."

Notice the framing is not "increase taxes". When anyone speaks about this they should pay mind to the framing. If the deficits didn't matter when the last round of tax cuts went into effect they shouldn't matter now.

Two things are going to happen, either the GOP will still not agree proving once again they have no intention of negotiating, or they will actually agree in which case the deficit and increasing taxes can be deferred to another day.


I know I know, wishful thinking.
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Two things are going to happen, either the GOP will still not agree proving once again they have no intention of negotiating, or they will actually agree in which case the deficit and increasing taxes can be deferred to another day.


I know I know, wishful thinking.
The former is fairly certain. But then... heck, we're past the point where Republicans even refuse to take 'yes' for an answer.



Elsewhere, though...

U.S. soldiers mistakenly raid vegetable oil factory in Bulgaria during NATO drill
“We sincerely apologize to the business and its employees,” the U.S. Army said in a statement. “We always learn from these exercises and are fully investigating the cause of this mistake.”
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Journalist investigates U.S. border and talks to sheriffs about what is really going on. Streams of hardened criminals are streaming through to join the most ruthless gangs such as MS-13. Rape and Murder and going to skyrocket even further. Thanks Biden for slashing the border budget form 1.5 billion to 54 million.

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Meanwhile, back in the Real World....
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If you watch news on NHK (Japan) or some other foreign news sources such as South Korea, you see Joe Biden unedited.

CNN and other media outlets can edit out Biden's dementia related gaffes and other problems he has if he speaks for more than 5 minutes but foreign correspondents including Russia and China get to see feeble Joe in his full glory, gaffes and all.
Sigh, more childish nonsense. Just accept reality, the Tantrump lost to the (vastly) better man.
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Vice president Kamala Harris tells U.S. business to outsource their investments from the USA to Central America.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...america-video/
More drivel from the far-right, white supremacist imbecile Jim Holt.
Pathetic. But that's what we expect from you.


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Newsweek is fake news. Anyone with half a brain cell would have known by now that "nazi" and "fascist" is slanderous lie they use for any genuine opponents of the left. Ad homs are also illogical.
Awwww, the "fake news" whine of the loser....
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Gateway Pundit:
Allsides Bias Rating: Far Right

Newsguard: A far-right political website that publishes false
and misleading content. The Gateway Pundit regularly
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theories.

Media Bias/Fact Check: Overall, we rate The Gateway Pundit
Questionable based on extreme right-wing bias, promotion
of conspiracies, and numerous instances of publishing false
(fake) news.

Ad Fonte Media: Reliability: 17.41

Bias: 25.35

Reliability scores for articles and shows are on a scale of 0-64. Scores above 24 are generally acceptable; scores above 32 are generally good.

Bias scores for articles and shows are on a scale of -42 to + 42, with higher negative scores being more left, higher positive scores being more right, and scores closer to zero being the most neutral and/or balanced.

The irony of calling Newsweek "fake news" and then using Gateway Pundit as a source probably escapes you.
Try Rationalwiki's take on GP.
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Once coming below a guy dressed as a dolphin. We have our idiots in the UK but even they wasn't stupid enough to vote Fraggle into Westminster.
To be fair, and in the spirit of nitpickery, the candidate was John Christopher Courtenay Stevens (former Conservative MEP, now Rejoin EU [formerly Pro-Euro Conservative Party and later Liberal Democrats] and actually quite a pleasant person IIRR) who didn't dress as a dolphin; it was one of his campaigners who dressed as Flipper. He was a consistently pro-EU and pro-Europe (actually pro-Euro) Conservative until their lurch to the populist right drove him out.

He stood for "Buckinghamshire Campaign for Democracy" and garnered over ten thousand votes, about two thousand more than Farage. It was the Buckingham constituency of John Bercow (yes the Speaker) and both were using a degree of local dislike of Bercow over the speakership (and this feeling disenfranchised) and certain properly dealings of his.

Stevens once coined the most accurate description of the UK Conservative party
Originally Posted by John Stevens
The Conservative party, throughout its history, has been about nothing so much as the possession of power.
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Sigh, more childish nonsense. Just accept reality, the Tantrump lost to the (vastly) better man.
From what I can see, "feeble" Biden still has more faculty than some of our posters here.
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Originally Posted by Lupus View Post
Vice president Kamala Harris tells U.S. business to outsource their investments from the USA to Central America.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...america-video/



Newsweek is fake news. Anyone with half a brain cell would have known by now that "nazi" and "fascist" is slanderous lie they use for any genuine opponents of the left. Ad homs are also illogical.
I won't read either. Newsweek went down badly and quick. They used to be roughly the same as Time but I liked it 20 years ago, for news in general. Not so much politics.

As far as Central America, we are partly to blame for their unstable economies. Climate also is doing a thing for them.
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I won't read either. Newsweek went down badly and quick. They used to be roughly the same as Time but I liked it 20 years ago, for news in general. Not so much politics.

As far as Central America, we are partly to blame for their unstable economies. Climate also is doing a thing for them.

That's quite the understatement, considering many of these refugees are coming from Central America, literal Banana Republics where corrupt government were propped up by US military intervention.
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That's quite the understatement, considering many of these refugees are coming from Central America, literal Banana Republics where corrupt government were propped up by US military intervention.
Well, Reagan yes. But we are past Reagan, I hope. I am reading a book on Central America and have not got past 2000 yet.
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If you watch news on NHK (Japan) or some other foreign news sources such as South Korea, you see Joe Biden unedited.

CNN and other media outlets can edit out Biden's dementia related gaffes and other problems he has if he speaks for more than 5 minutes but foreign correspondents including Russia and China get to see feeble Joe in his full glory, gaffes and all.
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Sigh, more childish nonsense. Just accept reality, the Tantrump lost to the (vastly) better man.
I'm still waiting days later for Joecool to provide said 'unedited' evidence of Biden's 'feeble gaffes' even after providing him with links to both NHK and the S. Korea news online.

Ever notice how these guys disappear when asked to provide evidence?
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I'm still waiting days later for Joecool to provide said 'unedited' evidence of Biden's 'feeble gaffes' even after providing him with links to both NHK and the S. Korea news online.

Ever notice how these guys disappear when asked to provide evidence?
That's the whole "Biden has dementia" game. Just keep asserting it with no actual basis.

There is a whole thread here discussing evidence for Trump having a mental illness. But rightwingers just blather "Biden has dementia" with absolutely nothing. But hey, Tucker Carlson claimed it on Fox News, so it must be right.
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That's the whole "Biden has dementia" game. Just keep asserting it with no actual basis.

There is a whole thread here discussing evidence for Trump having a mental illness. But rightwingers just blather "Biden has dementia" with absolutely nothing. But hey, Tucker Carlson claimed it on Fox News, so it must be right.
I remember we had Bernie supporters here asserting the same "Biden has dementia" nonsense during the primaries. It was just as unsupported and silly then.
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I'm still waiting days later for Joecool to provide said 'unedited' evidence of Biden's 'feeble gaffes'
Being a trump supporter, he will provide the evidence in 2 weeks...


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Being a trump supporter, he will provide the evidence in 2 weeks...


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Knowing the competency of the sources he and other likeminded use, it will probably be an 'unedited' video with Joe 'changing suits' several times during the same speech.
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Originally Posted by pgwenthold View Post
That's the whole "Biden has dementia" game. Just keep asserting it with no actual basis.

There is a whole thread here discussing evidence for Trump having a mental illness. But rightwingers just blather "Biden has dementia" with absolutely nothing. But hey, Tucker Carlson claimed it on Fox News, so it must be right.
Well, Tucker’s dick does look like a canary.
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I won't read either. Newsweek went down badly and quick. They used to be roughly the same as Time but I liked it 20 years ago, for news in general. Not so much politics.
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I just note that Newsweek was owned for many years by the Washington Post Co., but it has had multiple owners over the last 20 years. One sale was for one dollar.
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Funny. I remember long long ago, Newsweek was the "liberal" magazine which reported things more or less factually, and Time was the right wing one, which would typically report more or less factually perhaps, but with a linguistic flourish, such that feminists were always bra-burning radicals, peace protesters "beardies and wierdies," and so forth.

When I was in high school in the 1960's, for our American History class we were required to get one or the other, and the political divide between the two was a straight party line.

Somewhere along the line, a reversal happened, somewhat similar to that of the Daily News and the New York Post. Once upon a time, Tom Paxton's I Read it in the Daily News was the slanted fake news marching song.

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Old 5th June 2021, 07:07 AM   #192
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That's quite the understatement, considering many of these refugees are coming from Central America, literal Banana Republics where corrupt government were propped up by US military intervention.
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Well, Reagan yes. But we are past Reagan, I hope. I am reading a book on Central America and have not got past 2000 yet.
Not just Reagan. The term goes back to 1904. There have been Central American governments for a 120 years that were puppet governments of the United States. The US even created countries there entirely for our benefit. And "our benefit" meant rich coprporations like United Fruit.
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Manchin Vows to Block Democratic Voting Rights Bill and Preserve Filibuster
Senator Joe Manchin III, Democrat of West Virginia, appeared to slam the door on the far-reaching measure when he wrote that he would not vote for any partisan voting bill.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/u...hin-op-ed.html

So that's that, huh? Biden is now a lame duck president, paralyzed by a conservative majority in the Senate. Any hope of a legislative agenda has been torpedoed by Manchin (and likely Sinema and others). Unless Biden reverses his stance on being unwilling to wield executive power, his administration is dead in the water on advancing major policy.
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Old 7th June 2021, 05:26 AM   #194
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/u...hin-op-ed.html

So that's that, huh? Biden is now a lame duck president, paralyzed by a conservative majority in the Senate. Any hope of a legislative agenda has been torpedoed by Manchin (and likely Sinema and others). Unless Biden reverses his stance on being unwilling to wield executive power, his administration is dead in the water on advancing major policy.
Couldn't Manchin's constituents do something about that?
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Old 7th June 2021, 05:29 AM   #195
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Couldn't Manchin's constituents do something about that?
West Virginia went overwhelmingly to Trump in 2020 (69-30). Manchin is probably making the right political move, strictly in his own self-interest, to increasingly align himself with the Republicans. I wouldn't be surprised if a party switch were in the near future. Part of me wonders if this is an intentional ploy to get him thrown out of the party so he has a face-saving reason to become a Republican or at least an independent that caucuses with Republicans.

I imagine he'll maintain his "independent Democrat" label for as long as the party allows it, but I'm not really seeing much benefit for the party to allow this charade to go on much longer. Manchin gets to extract sweet deals as a pivotal swing voter, but really is not holding up his end of the bargain when it comes to important issues. What's the point of pretending this guy is a Democrat if he's going to oppose every significant part of the party agenda?
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Your political system is a real mess, man.
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Your political system is a real mess, man.
Well, I imagine it's going to get radically simplified in 2024, but not in a way anyone but the CHUDs like.
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Well, I imagine it's going to get radically simplified in 2024, but not in a way anyone but the CHUDs like.
Only white landowners can vote? Presumably by firing a gun at a target with their choice on it.
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Only white landowners can vote? Presumably by firing a gun at a target with their choice on it.
The play is happening in plain sight. Republican states are purging any officials that showed themselves unwilling to back the "election fraud" lie. Next time around, either the Republicans will win outright, or they'll simply challenge and overrule losing state elections and award themselves the win.

That's what this whole "big lie" thing is about. It's not just about rehashing the loss of 2020, it's about ensuring such a thing can never happen again. Next time around, no slim losses in Georgia or wherever are going to matter because the state legislature will simply declare certain votes illegal and flip the result to favor the Republicans. SCOTUS won't do anything about it, and just like that we'll find ourselves at a constitutional crisis.

I'm not even sure if that will be necessary. Seems like we're sliding into another term of a stymied, ineffective neo-liberal presidency that accomplishes nothing. The reactionaries are working themselves up into a lather and liberals are once again learning that things cannot get better, only worse. Sounds like the recipe for another depressed liberal turnout and another big win for reactionaries at the ballot box.
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Your political system is a real mess, man.
Everyone's political system is a mess. I have a certain pride that my country is the first in the world to approve SSM by popular vote. And I have a certain shame that my country continues to cover up the child abuse of the RCC.
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