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Old 18th January 2022, 04:50 AM   #2041
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Remember, her remit is not to rule on whether Boris Johnson broke the Ministerial Code. The ultimate arbiter of that is Lord Geidt.
He can only launch an investigation if Boris Johnson gives permission.
If Geidt makes a ruling, Boris Johnson can overrule it.
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Old 18th January 2022, 04:56 AM   #2042
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I think we know that it should be known as “the ministerial suggestions” rather than code.
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Old 18th January 2022, 05:19 AM   #2043
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
I think we know that it should be known as “the ministerial suggestions” rather than code.
“The code is more what you'd call 'guidelines' than actual rules"

As a famous pirate captain claimed.
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Old 18th January 2022, 06:44 AM   #2044
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'It's not my fault,' says a 57-year-old Old Etonian & Oxford graduate who made the rules
On Sky News Boris says says 'nobody told me' No 10 lockdown garden party was against the rules.
Invites had been sent, there were 40 people in the garden, tables were laid out with food and drink and "No, nobody told me that what we were doing was against the rules, the event in question was something that wasn't a work event...When I went out into that garden I thought I was attending a work event."

Beth Rigby: "To be clear you're saying Cummings is lying and his version of events is untrue?"

PM:"I can tell you categorically that nobody told me and nobody said that this was sthing that was against the rules or a breach of covid rules or something that wasn't a work event, because frankly I can't imagine why it would have gone ahead or been allowed to go ahead. My memory, as I've said is going out into the garden for 25 minutes for what I implicitly thought was a work event and talking to staff, thanking staff..."
"I can be absolutely categorical about this. Nobody told me that this is an event which was against the rules, that is in breach of what we're asking everyone else to do and should not go ahead."

On parties before Duke of Edinburgh funeral: "I deeply and bitterly regret that that happened. I can only renew my apologies to Her Majesty and to the country for misjudgments made and I take full responsibility."

http://news.sky.com/story/boris-john...rules-12519115

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Old 18th January 2022, 11:41 AM   #2045
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It is that hard to understand that when considering whether a " Work event" breaks the rules it is the 'event' aspect as opposed to the 'work' one that is the most important?
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Well, it's official. Covid is over!
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Yay !

I guess the tens of thousands catching it, the thousands hospitalised with it and the hundreds dying is just my overactive imagination.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
'It's not my fault,' says a 57-year-old Old Etonian & Oxford graduate who made the rules
On Sky News Boris says says 'nobody told me' No 10 lockdown garden party was against the rules.
Invites had been sent, there were 40 people in the garden, tables were laid out with food and drink and "No, nobody told me that what we were doing was against the rules, the event in question was something that wasn't a work event...When I went out into that garden I thought I was attending a work event."

Beth Rigby: "To be clear you're saying Cummings is lying and his version of events is untrue?"

PM:"I can tell you categorically that nobody told me and nobody said that this was sthing that was against the rules or a breach of covid rules or something that wasn't a work event, because frankly I can't imagine why it would have gone ahead or been allowed to go ahead. My memory, as I've said is going out into the garden for 25 minutes for what I implicitly thought was a work event and talking to staff, thanking staff..."
"I can be absolutely categorical about this. Nobody told me that this is an event which was against the rules, that is in breach of what we're asking everyone else to do and should not go ahead."

On parties before Duke of Edinburgh funeral: "I deeply and bitterly regret that that happened. I can only renew my apologies to Her Majesty and to the country for misjudgments made and I take full responsibility."

http://news.sky.com/story/boris-john...rules-12519115
Why does 'Boris' Johnson keep saying, 'Categorically'?

Isn't that what former POTUS Richard Nixon kept saying during impeachment proceedings? 'I categorically deny...'

...and then he was gone.

Why is Boozo copying him?

'Absolutely deeply bitterly', my foot.

'I understand what you are saying but...' is his other hackneyed cliché in response to any hard hitting question.

UK voters: what were you thinking???!!!
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Nadhim Zahawi tweets
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I promised that pupils wouldn't have to wear face coverings for a moment longer than necessary, so I'm pleased to say they will no longer be needed in classrooms from tomorrow.
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Old Today, 01:33 AM   #2050
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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I promised that pupils wouldn't have to wear face coverings for a moment longer than necessary, so I'm pleased to say they will no longer be needed in classrooms from tomorrow.
Oh good, I look forward to the fifth (or sixth, or seventh) wave.
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Old Today, 04:47 AM   #2051
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Sky News reporting that Downing Street insiders 'worried' Sue Gray investigation has come across damaging evidence and are now doubtful report will 'clear' Boris Johnson.

Also, Lewis Goodall of BBC News posted

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Tory MP William Wragg accuses govt whips and No 10 of blackmail and breaking ministerial code. Says they’ve threatened to withdraw investment from MPs’ constituencies if they support no confidence. Also threatened with negative press stories.
Mr Wragg advises his colleagues to report such incidents to both the Speaker and the Metropolitan Police.

Leaving aside serious accusations about the ministerial code politically it’s very difficult for a government which says its guiding principle is to levelling up to be accused of threatening to withdraw investment from particular constituencies to save the Prime Minister.

Mr Wragg is no friend of the PM but a governing party MP raising these sorts of concerns is highly unusual.
Whips always deploy what you might call ‘underhand’ tactics when the PM’s back is against the wall. Good or ill that is part of our system. But to directly link public money in constituencies to no confidence votes as Mr Wragg is alleging would be a serious charge indeed.

No 10 responds to Mr Wragg’s allegations- “We are not aware of any evidence to support what are clearly serious allegations. If there is any evidence to support these claims we would look at it very carefully.

Video of Wragg statement in link

https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/st...11208957431809

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Channel 4 are on this too

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"The reports of which I'm aware would seem to constitute blackmail."

Tory MP and Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee chair William Wragg tells MPs to report to police any attempts to "blackmail" them over their support for a no confidence vote in the PM.
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Wow, fighting back against the Whips?
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I understand Sue Gray has found the email from a senior official to PM’s principle private secretary Martin Reynolds warning him the 20 May party should not go ahead, as per Cummings’s revelation and my blog below. So huge…

question now for Gray to determine how PM could have thought this party was a legitimate work event as per his narrative.

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Why the mystery 'partygate' email mentioned in Cummings' blog really matters
A Downing Street source told Politics Editor Robert Peston he sent an email to Martin Reynolds on 20 May 2020 telling him a planned party should not go on

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-17/...really-matters
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Ben Kentish - Westminster Correspondent LBC tweeted
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I was told by Tory MPs, at the height of the Rashford row, that members of the govt were threatening to withhold money from schools in their (deprived) constituencies if they voted to extend free school meals. These practices aren’t new but Will Wragg has shone a light on them.
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Stand by for:

1. This did not happen.

2. It did happen, but the Prime Minister knew nothing about it.

3. The Prime Minister knew about it, but it wasn’t technically blackmail.

4. It was blackmail, but the Prime Minister wasn’t told that blackmail was against the law.
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