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26th March 2020, 11:00 AM | #1921 |
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You made this bizarre post:
I asked you what the hell you were talking about, even to whom you were referring in the hi-lited part. Instead of answering the question, you said you would answer the question but never did. Then went on to say your points were "clearly and rationally articulated," despite it being ambiguous to whom you were referring. You still haven't answered the question like you said you would, despite saying you would explain after being asked to explain. |
26th March 2020, 11:11 AM | #1922 |
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I'm stuck in my house and for two hours a day they decide to livestream Trump dumping his ignorance and bluster all over an unsuspecting microphone like it is a Miss Teen USA contestant. Sometimes I just feel like I'm stuck in the worst possible timeline.
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26th March 2020, 11:27 AM | #1923 |
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26th March 2020, 11:31 AM | #1924 |
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26th March 2020, 11:37 AM | #1925 |
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26th March 2020, 11:41 AM | #1926 |
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26th March 2020, 11:43 AM | #1927 |
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26th March 2020, 11:52 AM | #1928 |
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I agree. But it is not like Trump is alone in downplaying or being ignorant of what was coming. Seems a large number of countries across the globe had the same thing happen by their government heads.
Yup, I agree. But replacing him doesn't magically make the fundamental issues solved. Pointing out his flaws should relate to the things HE has to do differently NOW. Those I don't mind at all. Point out that his tariffs also targeted medical equipment we need for the current crisis, and could have caused some level of lowered purchases as buyers were waiting it out. That's direct. His words would lead to deaths either way. Most likely more with his current rhetoric but it's not like putting a positive spin is something new to the presidency. He was more optimistic than cautious. If he went too far the other way and there was too much panic we would be dealing with separate issues now as well. |
26th March 2020, 11:56 AM | #1929 |
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Excellent point. I started with the assumption the virus would start circulating in Canada and the US at the same time, because both countries see a fair bit of international travel from the affected regions (China and Europe.)
After some research I found the US confirmed its first case on January 21 on the west coast. Canada's first confirmed case was four days later in Toronto on January 25. However, in the American case the person had been in the States since January 15, while the Canadian case had arrived the same day. So it's possible the virus had been in the US for a full ten days before Canada. For something that doubles every two and a half days, those ten days are very significant. What's more noticeable, though, is the first death. In the US that happened on January 29, only eight days after the first confirmed case. In Canada the first death was five weeks later on March 9. The best conclusion I can draw is Canada is at least 10 days behind the US curve. That could certainly account for the difference in the "expected" US deaths (8.7× Canada's) vs actual (currently running at 30× Canada's.) The way I see it, the ratio gap should widen briefly over the next few days, then suddenly start to contract as Canada starts seeing a upswing in deaths due to the time lag, while at the same time the curve is starting to trend down in the US. Of course, we won't know the final numbers until the emergency is over. |
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26th March 2020, 12:36 PM | #1930 |
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So a single person would have uncovered everything? Could we spread the blame on China a bit here. Did we offer assistance that they didn't accept? Lie and downplay? Surely any person embedded would have been easily kept from the facts there as well.
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Companies seemed to have planned for a surge capacity for an event like this, but we didn't even give ourselves a head start by increasing our stock pile, knowing the issues the last pandemic caused. When taxpayers are on the hook for 10x the cost just for the items themselves during this crisis, not to mention the obvious economic and human loss from not being prepared, you would hope the cost analysis will ******* change next time. |
26th March 2020, 12:51 PM | #1931 |
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